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I am very much an amateur of 17th century English history ( John Evelyn and Ralph Thoresby diaries are my interests) and whilst researching a reference in Ralph Thoresby's diary for 5th of March, 1683 I was inexorably led to the 1st Earl of Shaftesbury in WikipediA.
In order to widen your citation pool may I make the following suggestion:
The University of California Libraries has a copy of the 2 volume set of: "A life of Anthony Ashley Cooper, first Earl of Shaftesbury, 1621-1683 (1871)" in 2 volumes. the pair can be downloaded as a reference source from:
https://archive.org/details/lifeofanthonyash01chriuoft
https://archive.org/details/lifeofanthonyash02chriuoft
To whet your apetite it has such gems as:
"Ashley Cooper knew a reason
That treachery was in season,
When at first he turned his coat
From loyalty to treason."
Eric Soons 12:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I will admit to not knowing much about Shaftesbury (hence my visit to this page), however, it seems curious that he would have supported Charles II due to James II in 1644 - particularly as James was still a child at this time and didn't become king until 1685. Could someone who knows a little more than I do either expand on this or correct it? Thanks
Perhaps mention should be made of his descendent, the 10th Earl, who disappeared under peculiar circumstances Oct-Nov 2004.
Content from a page redirected here. Charles Matthews 13:24, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Lord (Earl) Shaftsbury, Anthony Ashley Cooper 1621-1683 was son of daughter of Anthony Ashley (secretary of War for Queen Elizbeth I) (and so the double name but he IS a Cooper) and John Cooper.
Brit Chancellor of the Exchequer and later Lord Chancellor.
Famous for running the Brit government during the 1670's and beginning of the 1680's , he passed the first habeas corpus act - beginning due process and ending the practice of jailing someone without a hearing; and he also passed an act to make the judiciary independent, beginning that important practice.
He was also Lord Proprietor (with 7 others) of the Carolina's - today's US North and South Carolina but extending on the west to the Pacific Ocean. And on the committees running the Virginia and Massachusetts colonies.
Esp famous too for accumulating wealth, he had at one time 40 men in livery to attend on guests at his parties.
Falling out with others in mid 1680's , he spent some time in the Tower of London , with false charges, and on release left to live until his death a short time later (1683) in Amsterdam, Holland....
His family continues prominent in UK today, with each succeeding Earl of Shaftsbury with the same name of Anthony Ashley Cooper. The one in this position in the 1800's was esp successful in passing child labor laws stopping sweat shops using children.
The family today remains esp involved in philanthropy.
Queen Elizabeth II is descended from this family.
Did he not play a prominent role asa supporter of Titus Oates and it was in relaton to this that he was tried and spent time in the Tower.-- 206.165.217.125 ( talk) 17:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC) reference: http://kinnexions.com/smlawson/ashley.htm#Cooper.
I would also question whether he is best known as a patron of Locke. Ashley Cooper was also involved in the Green Ribbon Club and a fierce opponent of Roman Catholicism & promoter of the Exclusion Bill, despite which as a member of the CABAL he was party to the signing of the Treaty of Dover whereby Charles agreed to becaome a Catholic. He may also have been bribed by the French himself/. There is a huge amount o0f work to be done here. I may come back to it when I am less busy, unless someone else wants a go.-- Streona ( talk) 13:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to let people know I'm going to do a major rewrite of the article. On the basis of this page's history, it doesn't look like this page has one person who is primarily responsible for it, but if you consider yourself primarily responsible, please let me know. My apologies in advance, but this may take a couple of weeks, and in the meantime, the page might be a little overly detailed on the early part of Shaftesbury's life, but, assuming I get finished, it will hopefully be worth it in the end. My main source will be Tim Harris' entry on Shaftesbury from the new Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Adam_sk ( talk) 00:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
In all the sources I've seen, before he became Lord Ashley, Anthony Ashley Cooper is always referred to as "Cooper", not as "Ashley-Cooper". It therefore seems to me that it's more correct to not have the hyphen in the article title, so I'm switching the body of the article from Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury and moving it to Anthony Ashley Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury. I'm transferring the talk page, but see the old article for revisions prior to today. Adam_sk ( talk) 23:13, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
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I am very much an amateur of 17th century English history ( John Evelyn and Ralph Thoresby diaries are my interests) and whilst researching a reference in Ralph Thoresby's diary for 5th of March, 1683 I was inexorably led to the 1st Earl of Shaftesbury in WikipediA.
In order to widen your citation pool may I make the following suggestion:
The University of California Libraries has a copy of the 2 volume set of: "A life of Anthony Ashley Cooper, first Earl of Shaftesbury, 1621-1683 (1871)" in 2 volumes. the pair can be downloaded as a reference source from:
https://archive.org/details/lifeofanthonyash01chriuoft
https://archive.org/details/lifeofanthonyash02chriuoft
To whet your apetite it has such gems as:
"Ashley Cooper knew a reason
That treachery was in season,
When at first he turned his coat
From loyalty to treason."
Eric Soons 12:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I will admit to not knowing much about Shaftesbury (hence my visit to this page), however, it seems curious that he would have supported Charles II due to James II in 1644 - particularly as James was still a child at this time and didn't become king until 1685. Could someone who knows a little more than I do either expand on this or correct it? Thanks
Perhaps mention should be made of his descendent, the 10th Earl, who disappeared under peculiar circumstances Oct-Nov 2004.
Content from a page redirected here. Charles Matthews 13:24, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Lord (Earl) Shaftsbury, Anthony Ashley Cooper 1621-1683 was son of daughter of Anthony Ashley (secretary of War for Queen Elizbeth I) (and so the double name but he IS a Cooper) and John Cooper.
Brit Chancellor of the Exchequer and later Lord Chancellor.
Famous for running the Brit government during the 1670's and beginning of the 1680's , he passed the first habeas corpus act - beginning due process and ending the practice of jailing someone without a hearing; and he also passed an act to make the judiciary independent, beginning that important practice.
He was also Lord Proprietor (with 7 others) of the Carolina's - today's US North and South Carolina but extending on the west to the Pacific Ocean. And on the committees running the Virginia and Massachusetts colonies.
Esp famous too for accumulating wealth, he had at one time 40 men in livery to attend on guests at his parties.
Falling out with others in mid 1680's , he spent some time in the Tower of London , with false charges, and on release left to live until his death a short time later (1683) in Amsterdam, Holland....
His family continues prominent in UK today, with each succeeding Earl of Shaftsbury with the same name of Anthony Ashley Cooper. The one in this position in the 1800's was esp successful in passing child labor laws stopping sweat shops using children.
The family today remains esp involved in philanthropy.
Queen Elizabeth II is descended from this family.
Did he not play a prominent role asa supporter of Titus Oates and it was in relaton to this that he was tried and spent time in the Tower.-- 206.165.217.125 ( talk) 17:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC) reference: http://kinnexions.com/smlawson/ashley.htm#Cooper.
I would also question whether he is best known as a patron of Locke. Ashley Cooper was also involved in the Green Ribbon Club and a fierce opponent of Roman Catholicism & promoter of the Exclusion Bill, despite which as a member of the CABAL he was party to the signing of the Treaty of Dover whereby Charles agreed to becaome a Catholic. He may also have been bribed by the French himself/. There is a huge amount o0f work to be done here. I may come back to it when I am less busy, unless someone else wants a go.-- Streona ( talk) 13:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to let people know I'm going to do a major rewrite of the article. On the basis of this page's history, it doesn't look like this page has one person who is primarily responsible for it, but if you consider yourself primarily responsible, please let me know. My apologies in advance, but this may take a couple of weeks, and in the meantime, the page might be a little overly detailed on the early part of Shaftesbury's life, but, assuming I get finished, it will hopefully be worth it in the end. My main source will be Tim Harris' entry on Shaftesbury from the new Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Adam_sk ( talk) 00:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
In all the sources I've seen, before he became Lord Ashley, Anthony Ashley Cooper is always referred to as "Cooper", not as "Ashley-Cooper". It therefore seems to me that it's more correct to not have the hyphen in the article title, so I'm switching the body of the article from Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury and moving it to Anthony Ashley Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury. I'm transferring the talk page, but see the old article for revisions prior to today. Adam_sk ( talk) 23:13, 20 September 2009 (UTC)