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Isn't there a convention on Wikipedia that characters that aren't pronounced be left out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.148.147 ( talk) 22:01, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
While the article is still quite underdeveloped, (there's not a whole lot of information about 500 Days of Summer,) I think this link is a good resource for information about the film. Adding a note here, as the site doesn't seem to be official. Mrtea (talk) 04:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Early interviews of both Joe and Zooey are here. Should be a good source for why they wanted to do it and some other insight. -- Peppage tlk 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The last words in the plot synopsis are "Tom's new beau." Beau means boyfriend, and Autumn looked pretty female to me. I changed it to the gender-neutral "crush." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.208.186 ( talk) 22:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Darren is pretty much the man. Crotchety Old Man ( talk) 16:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
For those who do want a full summary, with all the counters then go here. Darrenhusted ( talk) 16:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
If Day 500 was May 23, then Day 1 was January 9. (Try it in excel...Enter May 23 in one cell, and then make another cell equal to the first cell minus 499.) I assume it was on Day 1 that they met, right? 76.173.211.252 ( talk) 07:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Is Summer a Manic Depressive Dream Girl? [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.166.216.225 ( talk) 05:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC) 12.130.119.12 ( talk) 22:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC) what does that even mean? 12.130.119.12 ( talk) 22:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
The film is supposed to include a cameo by Star Wars character stop reading if you don't want to know. I'm wondering if the Sundance screening or other previews included this scene. I've also read the film was called "500 days of summer" and only after Sundance did they adopt the convention of writing it as (500) which Ebert and pointedly ignores. There was something else about the title card showing the numbers having been added later, which I thought I had read in one of the articles referenced here but have been unable to find again. I've been trying to find sources for these and add them, particularly the appearance of Harrison Ford is either an interesting cameo worth mentioning or in terms of the production difficulty in getting permission to license the clip. Will tackle it later if I can. -- Horkana ( talk) 01:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
What's with the change of poster? At the time of writing it has a poster featuring full length pictures of the two leads leaning in towards each other, previously it had a collage poster. I thought film articles were supposed to stick to the theatrical release poster and this article had that until recently. Is there some particular reason for the change? Am I incorrect in my belief that we have to stick with the theatrical release poster? -- Horkana ( talk) 00:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree, the poster image should be reverted to the original. See [3] (scroll 2/3 down to Image): "Ideally, an image of the film's original theatrical release poster should be uploaded and added to the infobox to serve as an identifying image for the article." ( SEC ( talk) 04:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC))
Peter Travers of
Rolling Stone gave the film three and a half stars out of four. He wrote, "Boy meets girl, boy loses girl. It's been done to emo death. That's why the sublimely smart-sexy-joyful-sad (500) Days of Summer hits you like a blast of pure romantic oxygen" and concludes: "(500) Days is otherwise a different kind of love story: an honest one that takes a piece out of you."
Travers, Peter.
"(500) Days of Summer: Review". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 2010-01-08.
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The link is dead and I can't find it anywhere, it can be moved back to the article when a source has been found. -- Peppage tlk 21:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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A comment in the wikicode at the end of the plot summary says "Do not add references to 'the counter'". Is there any consensus for this, or is it just one editor's view? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
The counter is part of the story structure. Other films use flashbacks and flash forwards as part of their story structure, some films have title cards and cue cards between scenes, they don't often get mentioned either. It is the wordcount limitations of WP:FILMPLOT that puts pressure on editors to leave things out. The desire to cover more interesting and relevant details of the plot and story rather than the structural elements, is the reason there was a consensus to leave out the details about the counter. It makes sense to omit the counter which adds a lot of bloat to the word count for not much insight in return. I'd have discussed the count in another section but it didn't get much mention from reviewers or in interviews with the director. (The article doesn't even mention the "Han Solo" reflection/cameo before the musical number or how difficult it was for the director to get licensing for it.) Similarly the article doesn't mention the musical number within the Plot section but it gets a mention elsewhere. -- 109.77.244.255 ( talk) 12:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 00:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
(500) Days of Summer → 500 Days of Summer – Per MOS:FOLLOW, "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words." The parentheses in this title are included purely for decoration. The guideline mentions Seven (1995 film) and Alien 3 as two films that are stylized in promotional materials, but on this encyclopedia, they are simplified to what is commonly uttered or written. The same rationale should apply here. ( Nymphomaniac (film) was similarly resolved where it has been stylized Nymph()maniac.) Erik ( talk | contribs) 21:09, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
I think the critics from World Socialist Web Site (WSWS) as well as Racket Magazine (RM) should be removed from the article. Neither of these sources is aggregated by Rotten Tomatoes and they don't seem particularly notable critics. The comments from WSWS are also redundant, Peter Bradshaw has already effectively made the point about the film failing to take Summer's view. RM is similarly redundant. -- 109.77.24.57 ( talk) 13:45, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Could you say something about their wardrobe? I am not qualified but he often wears a tie and a knitted vest and she imitates Jackie O-era attire. Is that intended to place them in a certain demographic or urban tribe? -- Error ( talk) 02:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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help)Also found a nice set of pictures from 5DoS from the website of Hope Hanafin, but I'm fairly sure we can't use them. There might be enough for a Proudction subsection about Costumes. If anyone is interested enough to add it then please do, if not I'll probably come back to it eventually. -- 109.79.188.34 ( talk) 23:48, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I would cut the amount of reviews in the section "Critical response", right? Typically in film articles they have much less, and besides the half say basically the same things. I would leave just a selection, including the negative review for a contrast. -- Samer.hc ( talk) 23:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Ten years later ... I'll be adding some sources here (or trying to). Maybe I'll be able to use them to add something to the article later. -- 109.79.188.34 ( talk) 23:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi everyone, we have been assigned this article as part of our university research project. Please assume good faith on our behalf whilst we edit this article. Our usernames are: LilliSch, Maristewart, IvanaOn, Evenallthenamesweretakenwastaken, and Luckrej. ( Lillisch ( talk) 17:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC))
Isn't there a convention on Wikipedia that characters that aren't pronounced be left out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.148.147 ( talk) 22:01, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
While the article is still quite underdeveloped, (there's not a whole lot of information about 500 Days of Summer,) I think this link is a good resource for information about the film. Adding a note here, as the site doesn't seem to be official. Mrtea (talk) 04:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Early interviews of both Joe and Zooey are here. Should be a good source for why they wanted to do it and some other insight. -- Peppage tlk 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The last words in the plot synopsis are "Tom's new beau." Beau means boyfriend, and Autumn looked pretty female to me. I changed it to the gender-neutral "crush." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.208.186 ( talk) 22:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Darren is pretty much the man. Crotchety Old Man ( talk) 16:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
For those who do want a full summary, with all the counters then go here. Darrenhusted ( talk) 16:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
If Day 500 was May 23, then Day 1 was January 9. (Try it in excel...Enter May 23 in one cell, and then make another cell equal to the first cell minus 499.) I assume it was on Day 1 that they met, right? 76.173.211.252 ( talk) 07:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Is Summer a Manic Depressive Dream Girl? [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.166.216.225 ( talk) 05:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC) 12.130.119.12 ( talk) 22:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC) what does that even mean? 12.130.119.12 ( talk) 22:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
The film is supposed to include a cameo by Star Wars character stop reading if you don't want to know. I'm wondering if the Sundance screening or other previews included this scene. I've also read the film was called "500 days of summer" and only after Sundance did they adopt the convention of writing it as (500) which Ebert and pointedly ignores. There was something else about the title card showing the numbers having been added later, which I thought I had read in one of the articles referenced here but have been unable to find again. I've been trying to find sources for these and add them, particularly the appearance of Harrison Ford is either an interesting cameo worth mentioning or in terms of the production difficulty in getting permission to license the clip. Will tackle it later if I can. -- Horkana ( talk) 01:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
What's with the change of poster? At the time of writing it has a poster featuring full length pictures of the two leads leaning in towards each other, previously it had a collage poster. I thought film articles were supposed to stick to the theatrical release poster and this article had that until recently. Is there some particular reason for the change? Am I incorrect in my belief that we have to stick with the theatrical release poster? -- Horkana ( talk) 00:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree, the poster image should be reverted to the original. See [3] (scroll 2/3 down to Image): "Ideally, an image of the film's original theatrical release poster should be uploaded and added to the infobox to serve as an identifying image for the article." ( SEC ( talk) 04:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC))
Peter Travers of
Rolling Stone gave the film three and a half stars out of four. He wrote, "Boy meets girl, boy loses girl. It's been done to emo death. That's why the sublimely smart-sexy-joyful-sad (500) Days of Summer hits you like a blast of pure romantic oxygen" and concludes: "(500) Days is otherwise a different kind of love story: an honest one that takes a piece out of you."
Travers, Peter.
"(500) Days of Summer: Review". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 2010-01-08.
dead link
The link is dead and I can't find it anywhere, it can be moved back to the article when a source has been found. -- Peppage tlk 21:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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A comment in the wikicode at the end of the plot summary says "Do not add references to 'the counter'". Is there any consensus for this, or is it just one editor's view? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
The counter is part of the story structure. Other films use flashbacks and flash forwards as part of their story structure, some films have title cards and cue cards between scenes, they don't often get mentioned either. It is the wordcount limitations of WP:FILMPLOT that puts pressure on editors to leave things out. The desire to cover more interesting and relevant details of the plot and story rather than the structural elements, is the reason there was a consensus to leave out the details about the counter. It makes sense to omit the counter which adds a lot of bloat to the word count for not much insight in return. I'd have discussed the count in another section but it didn't get much mention from reviewers or in interviews with the director. (The article doesn't even mention the "Han Solo" reflection/cameo before the musical number or how difficult it was for the director to get licensing for it.) Similarly the article doesn't mention the musical number within the Plot section but it gets a mention elsewhere. -- 109.77.244.255 ( talk) 12:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 00:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
(500) Days of Summer → 500 Days of Summer – Per MOS:FOLLOW, "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words." The parentheses in this title are included purely for decoration. The guideline mentions Seven (1995 film) and Alien 3 as two films that are stylized in promotional materials, but on this encyclopedia, they are simplified to what is commonly uttered or written. The same rationale should apply here. ( Nymphomaniac (film) was similarly resolved where it has been stylized Nymph()maniac.) Erik ( talk | contribs) 21:09, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
I think the critics from World Socialist Web Site (WSWS) as well as Racket Magazine (RM) should be removed from the article. Neither of these sources is aggregated by Rotten Tomatoes and they don't seem particularly notable critics. The comments from WSWS are also redundant, Peter Bradshaw has already effectively made the point about the film failing to take Summer's view. RM is similarly redundant. -- 109.77.24.57 ( talk) 13:45, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Could you say something about their wardrobe? I am not qualified but he often wears a tie and a knitted vest and she imitates Jackie O-era attire. Is that intended to place them in a certain demographic or urban tribe? -- Error ( talk) 02:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
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ignored (|url-status=
suggested) (
help)Also found a nice set of pictures from 5DoS from the website of Hope Hanafin, but I'm fairly sure we can't use them. There might be enough for a Proudction subsection about Costumes. If anyone is interested enough to add it then please do, if not I'll probably come back to it eventually. -- 109.79.188.34 ( talk) 23:48, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I would cut the amount of reviews in the section "Critical response", right? Typically in film articles they have much less, and besides the half say basically the same things. I would leave just a selection, including the negative review for a contrast. -- Samer.hc ( talk) 23:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Ten years later ... I'll be adding some sources here (or trying to). Maybe I'll be able to use them to add something to the article later. -- 109.79.188.34 ( talk) 23:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 January 2024 and 15 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): ChristianeMor ( article contribs).
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