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The speeches of the Senators and members of the House will be printed in the Congressional Record 167(4), which I will be adding to Wikisource. Any reference to speeches should be probably be connected to the appropriate page there, once it is set up; this should probably also happen to 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, but I don’t have the privilege to edit that page. TE(æ)A,ea. ( talk) 02:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC).
I suggest that the "Objection defeated" and "Objection not heard" cells be in different shades of red. I believe that would aid readability and accessibility. 101090ABC ( talk) 19:24, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Must lists of Republicans favoring or opposing objections be necessary? If so, why? Seems that Democrats aren't listed because decisions of Democratic Party must have been unanimous, right? -- George Ho ( talk) 02:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why the footnote was removed with the single word justification of "unnecessary". As I put in my edit summary, the footnote points out that all subsequent EV counting have no impact on outcome. Banana Republic ( talk) 01:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
It's not true. They are not counted progressively, they are added all at the end. It's also completely unnecessary and illustrates nothing. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 22:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Would it be useful to Wikipedia readers for us to have a LIST article that itemizes (with references) all of the companies that decided to cease their political contributions to members of Congress who had voted against certifying the Electoral College results? I would be happy to get it started, if there is support from the community. I honestly don't know if this is generally acceptable or frowned upon. - Hard thoughtful work ( talk) 20:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Back in 2016 several democratic congress-members raised objections to electoral votes from certain states though no senators supported the objections so it was not debated.
In 2004 congress-members and a senator objected to the electoral votes from Ohio resulting in a two hour debate.
I am not aware of other instances where this occurred.
I believe pages should be created for all electoral college counts. The info-boxes should include a map of the US that is color coded to show in which states objections were raised but not debated, states where objections were debated and states where no objections were raised. Furthermore the info-box should include who the president of the senate was, as well as the election results.
I am interested in hearing what fellow editors think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrendonJH ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Additionally according to ballotpedia [1] in 1969 objections were made to the electoral college votes in North Carolina, but were voted down 58-33 in the Senate and 228-170 in the House. BrendonJH ( talk) 21:24, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose to merge Sedition Caucus into 2021 United States Electoral College vote count. I think that the content in the Sedition Caucus article can easily be explained in the context of 2021 United States Electoral College vote count, and the latter article is of a reasonable size that the merging of the former article will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. 06:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC) TOA The owner of all ☑️
In my honest opinion, the article (in its current state) is parroting propaganda in several sections, it and fails to maintain the NPOV standard Wikipedia strives for. Until the allegations being made of our former president (and his party members) at very least become court-worthy in the eyes of the Department of Justice, many of the statements reflected in the article should be made to either (a) clearly state when they are simply being alleged, or (b) be removed entirely. 2601:243:CC81:56B0:909B:F06E:2342:C245 ( talk) 07:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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The speeches of the Senators and members of the House will be printed in the Congressional Record 167(4), which I will be adding to Wikisource. Any reference to speeches should be probably be connected to the appropriate page there, once it is set up; this should probably also happen to 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, but I don’t have the privilege to edit that page. TE(æ)A,ea. ( talk) 02:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC).
I suggest that the "Objection defeated" and "Objection not heard" cells be in different shades of red. I believe that would aid readability and accessibility. 101090ABC ( talk) 19:24, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Must lists of Republicans favoring or opposing objections be necessary? If so, why? Seems that Democrats aren't listed because decisions of Democratic Party must have been unanimous, right? -- George Ho ( talk) 02:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why the footnote was removed with the single word justification of "unnecessary". As I put in my edit summary, the footnote points out that all subsequent EV counting have no impact on outcome. Banana Republic ( talk) 01:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
It's not true. They are not counted progressively, they are added all at the end. It's also completely unnecessary and illustrates nothing. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 22:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Would it be useful to Wikipedia readers for us to have a LIST article that itemizes (with references) all of the companies that decided to cease their political contributions to members of Congress who had voted against certifying the Electoral College results? I would be happy to get it started, if there is support from the community. I honestly don't know if this is generally acceptable or frowned upon. - Hard thoughtful work ( talk) 20:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Back in 2016 several democratic congress-members raised objections to electoral votes from certain states though no senators supported the objections so it was not debated.
In 2004 congress-members and a senator objected to the electoral votes from Ohio resulting in a two hour debate.
I am not aware of other instances where this occurred.
I believe pages should be created for all electoral college counts. The info-boxes should include a map of the US that is color coded to show in which states objections were raised but not debated, states where objections were debated and states where no objections were raised. Furthermore the info-box should include who the president of the senate was, as well as the election results.
I am interested in hearing what fellow editors think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrendonJH ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Map of objections to electoral votes.png | |||
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Here is a rendition of what such infobox could look like.
Additionally according to ballotpedia [1] in 1969 objections were made to the electoral college votes in North Carolina, but were voted down 58-33 in the Senate and 228-170 in the House. BrendonJH ( talk) 21:24, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
References
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose to merge Sedition Caucus into 2021 United States Electoral College vote count. I think that the content in the Sedition Caucus article can easily be explained in the context of 2021 United States Electoral College vote count, and the latter article is of a reasonable size that the merging of the former article will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. 06:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC) TOA The owner of all ☑️
In my honest opinion, the article (in its current state) is parroting propaganda in several sections, it and fails to maintain the NPOV standard Wikipedia strives for. Until the allegations being made of our former president (and his party members) at very least become court-worthy in the eyes of the Department of Justice, many of the statements reflected in the article should be made to either (a) clearly state when they are simply being alleged, or (b) be removed entirely. 2601:243:CC81:56B0:909B:F06E:2342:C245 ( talk) 07:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)