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Rabbi Eliashiv may be old, but he's got his senses. I don't think it is reasonable to blame his "entourage" for bending or reinterpreting responses. As for the Slifkin case, he is one of the signatories after incitement by an unnamed Bnei Berak Rabbi. He has signed many more proclamations in a similar fashion, and (as Slifkin's web page testifies) he stands behind his condemnation. Every rabbi may invoke Daat Torah as reason for his opinion. Whether this is accepted is an entirely different matter and need not be discussed specifically in his case. JFW | T@lk 11:35, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I would like references for:
Please be aware that WP:CITE is the new black, and I am known for removing material that has not been verified. JFW | T@lk 11:41, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I didn't question the facts, and I was certainly not accusing you of making things up. I just requested sources. As you may have noticed, Wikipedia has had somewhat of a scare about unfounded allegations, and only scrupulous sourcing will protect us against criticism. JFW | T@lk 16:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Could you turn these URLs into references? See here for some tips. JFW | T@lk 16:03, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
"He was supportive of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon during the Gaza disengagement of 2005, even though he had repeatedly stated his support for a public referendum." This seems a bit misleading as the Rav did not support the disengagement at all--until he was sure that the vote wouldn;t make a difference
Would it be possible to expand on place of birth, parents, and youth. The article assumes that he was born the great rabbi he is today, with no information on how he got there, which schools he studied in, significant events in his life, parents occupation, siblings, wife, other children, etc... -- Shuki 14:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd be happy to help write some of that if someone could point me in the direction of a source, preferably online. I just don't have time to do massive amounts of Googling at the moment. ShalomShlomo 04:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I am moving [[Category:Belarusian Jews|Eliashiv, Yosef Shalom]] here. I was under the impression that Rav Eliashiv was born in Jerusalem, can anyone confirm this? Thanks. IZAK
No he moved to palestine when he was 12 years old. His parents came from lithuania, and were close to the turkish speaking jewish community there (the karaim). If I am not mistaken, the surname of his parents were actually turkish, namely erener. 77.249.201.75 ( talk) 23:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I am not inclined to keep this segment in this bio. More significantly, however, I think these are written solely from the perspective of one side of the controversy--which violates standard Wikipedia NPOV rules. DavidCharlesII 21:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
David, you cannot state things as if they were facts ("Defenders of the bans and Rabbi Eliashiv's decision have found that opponents of the bans of hold deeply jaded views") without backing them up. The 'citation needed' notation is appropriate. ShalomShlomo 19:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with David. We all know what Rabbi Slifkin's supporters are about.
Do we have to back up facts like the sky is blue with sources?
I am not David. I do not even know who he is. He can be one of many hundreds of people working for this company, though. In response to your unwarranted sarcasm, you have too much time on your hands to be so prissy about the point I was making. Notwithstanding your obvious sincerity, you fail to notice the gut reaction of the MO world and how blatantly is reveals what I would delicately call its bias toward Torah practice.
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What was the name of the daughter killed by the Jordanians? Tomer talk 00:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Out of eleven children, six of his daughters married significant rabbinic figures:
Wasn't he once a judge in the Rabbanut and resigned in protest of an incident where Rabbi Goren dismissed a ruling of his and his fellow judges, due to a political request by Golda Meir? This Wikipedia page does not reflect that part of his life.
Barryfadams ( talk) 07:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
This page was moved from Yosef Shalom Elyashiv to Yosef Shalom Eliashiv on 29 August 2006 by a user who claimed it is the "correct spelling of name". Well, according to all English sources that I'm consulting to expand the page, Elyashiv is the more common spelling in English. (On Google, Eliashiv gets 116,000 hits and Elyashiv gets 148,000 hits.) Can other editors weigh in on whether to rename the page Yosef Shalom Elyashiv? Thanks, Yoninah ( talk) 21:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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Should the mentions of "Elyashiv" be changed to Rabbi Elyashiv, as Rabbis are not traditionally referred to by last name only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.130.199 ( talk) 13:26, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Please tell me what specifically makes the source not reliable or proper. I think the info is relevant and it is from an article Rav Elyashiv wrote in the yated. Meir Hakoton ( talk) 07:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Removed incomprehensible bit. Discussion opened at Talk:World_Zionist_Organization#Breaking_news:_Yiddish_and_'loshn_koydesh'_are_English_-_not! - pls go there for arguments etc. Arminden ( talk) 11:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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Rabbi Eliashiv may be old, but he's got his senses. I don't think it is reasonable to blame his "entourage" for bending or reinterpreting responses. As for the Slifkin case, he is one of the signatories after incitement by an unnamed Bnei Berak Rabbi. He has signed many more proclamations in a similar fashion, and (as Slifkin's web page testifies) he stands behind his condemnation. Every rabbi may invoke Daat Torah as reason for his opinion. Whether this is accepted is an entirely different matter and need not be discussed specifically in his case. JFW | T@lk 11:35, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I would like references for:
Please be aware that WP:CITE is the new black, and I am known for removing material that has not been verified. JFW | T@lk 11:41, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I didn't question the facts, and I was certainly not accusing you of making things up. I just requested sources. As you may have noticed, Wikipedia has had somewhat of a scare about unfounded allegations, and only scrupulous sourcing will protect us against criticism. JFW | T@lk 16:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Could you turn these URLs into references? See here for some tips. JFW | T@lk 16:03, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
"He was supportive of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon during the Gaza disengagement of 2005, even though he had repeatedly stated his support for a public referendum." This seems a bit misleading as the Rav did not support the disengagement at all--until he was sure that the vote wouldn;t make a difference
Would it be possible to expand on place of birth, parents, and youth. The article assumes that he was born the great rabbi he is today, with no information on how he got there, which schools he studied in, significant events in his life, parents occupation, siblings, wife, other children, etc... -- Shuki 14:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd be happy to help write some of that if someone could point me in the direction of a source, preferably online. I just don't have time to do massive amounts of Googling at the moment. ShalomShlomo 04:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I am moving [[Category:Belarusian Jews|Eliashiv, Yosef Shalom]] here. I was under the impression that Rav Eliashiv was born in Jerusalem, can anyone confirm this? Thanks. IZAK
No he moved to palestine when he was 12 years old. His parents came from lithuania, and were close to the turkish speaking jewish community there (the karaim). If I am not mistaken, the surname of his parents were actually turkish, namely erener. 77.249.201.75 ( talk) 23:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I am not inclined to keep this segment in this bio. More significantly, however, I think these are written solely from the perspective of one side of the controversy--which violates standard Wikipedia NPOV rules. DavidCharlesII 21:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
David, you cannot state things as if they were facts ("Defenders of the bans and Rabbi Eliashiv's decision have found that opponents of the bans of hold deeply jaded views") without backing them up. The 'citation needed' notation is appropriate. ShalomShlomo 19:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with David. We all know what Rabbi Slifkin's supporters are about.
Do we have to back up facts like the sky is blue with sources?
I am not David. I do not even know who he is. He can be one of many hundreds of people working for this company, though. In response to your unwarranted sarcasm, you have too much time on your hands to be so prissy about the point I was making. Notwithstanding your obvious sincerity, you fail to notice the gut reaction of the MO world and how blatantly is reveals what I would delicately call its bias toward Torah practice.
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 21:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
What was the name of the daughter killed by the Jordanians? Tomer talk 00:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Out of eleven children, six of his daughters married significant rabbinic figures:
Wasn't he once a judge in the Rabbanut and resigned in protest of an incident where Rabbi Goren dismissed a ruling of his and his fellow judges, due to a political request by Golda Meir? This Wikipedia page does not reflect that part of his life.
Barryfadams ( talk) 07:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
This page was moved from Yosef Shalom Elyashiv to Yosef Shalom Eliashiv on 29 August 2006 by a user who claimed it is the "correct spelling of name". Well, according to all English sources that I'm consulting to expand the page, Elyashiv is the more common spelling in English. (On Google, Eliashiv gets 116,000 hits and Elyashiv gets 148,000 hits.) Can other editors weigh in on whether to rename the page Yosef Shalom Elyashiv? Thanks, Yoninah ( talk) 21:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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Should the mentions of "Elyashiv" be changed to Rabbi Elyashiv, as Rabbis are not traditionally referred to by last name only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.130.199 ( talk) 13:26, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Please tell me what specifically makes the source not reliable or proper. I think the info is relevant and it is from an article Rav Elyashiv wrote in the yated. Meir Hakoton ( talk) 07:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Removed incomprehensible bit. Discussion opened at Talk:World_Zionist_Organization#Breaking_news:_Yiddish_and_'loshn_koydesh'_are_English_-_not! - pls go there for arguments etc. Arminden ( talk) 11:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)