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I wish I had proof of this, but I thought Yogi said he wore the hat and tie because he wanted to be seen as human. It could just be my imagination, which really doesn't help. -- Macrowiz 06:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Huh? I've always assumed we're seeing his own skin. Where's the support for this statement about the skin being part of his costume? 171.64.71.123 03:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
In the pic, which of the two is Yogi ? Jay 17:46, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I read somewhere that Yogi Bear was based on Phil Silvers' Seargeant Bilko though I've never quite worked out why.
What, no mention of Ranger Smith anywhere? He was the original uptight cartoon guy!
Does anybody know the name of one of Yogi and Boo Boo's friends? He is a very small bear who wears a blue/teal bowtie. He is mostly sitting in the cartoons. I wish I could provide more details but I saw this episode at an IHOP one morning and couldn't hear the sound.
"Yogi Bear is a fictional cartoon bear": No, he is a REAL cartoon bear, because the cartoon about him does exist! He is a FICTIONAL BEAR, but a REAL CARTOON BEAR!
cartoons created by Hanna-Barbera Productions." Wahkeenah 09:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
also used to run a music video called yogi bear. It has a song by a band called High school Jim. They still air it on Boomerang. But I haven't been able to find info on the band. So its tough getting verification.
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Is it worth mentioning that High School Jim made a tribute song to Yogi Bear? Kikiluvscheese 05:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
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Why is this not at Yogi Bear? The article is about the bear, and whereas there would be no bear without the show, and no show without the bear, Yogi Bear is a more likely search term. pablo hablo. 19:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was page moved. — harej ( talk) 10:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
After the move, the infobox now needs to be split out into a separate article on The Yogi Bear Show, which also needs to be added to the dab page. Powers T 13:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
The wikilinks restored today represent characteristics important to understanding this character. They are veriable by watching the cartoon alone or looking at its images or sound bites.-- Morenooso ( talk) 12:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Quote: "In 1960, the pop group Ivy 3, recorded a song called "Yogi", a novelty song with the impersonation of Daws Butler. The song described Yogi as a "Yogi Man", and featured the catch phrases "Hey, Boo-Boo" and "Yogi Baby". The song went up to #8 on the Billboard charts"
The actual name of the pop group is "The Ivy Three". When in doubt, search for images of the albums of the band. The proper spelling is the one printed on the album.
The article states several times that Christine Taylor will play Cindy Bear in the Movie, yet neither the character or actor appear in the credits on the poster and Cindy does not appear in in any of the promotional material or in any of the three trailers released so far. Also, none of the sources sited for her character being in the movie actually mention her. Does anyone have any evidence at all that she will be in the movie? If not, then all references to Christine Taylor or Cindy bear should be removed from the movie section of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.12.173 ( talk) 12:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I believe the issue of potential homosexuality should not be readded. It places undue weight on a topic that I believe is a non-issue for most people. Also, the paper the section references contains the opinion of only one man, who, as a gay man himself who writes almost exclusively about gay issues, cannot be objective. Judgeking ( talk) 18:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Cartoon_Sexuality WhisperToMe ( talk) 02:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Was Ranger Jones on The Yogi Bear Show or is he just in the film? -- Hoppybunny ( talk) 02:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I found out Ranger Jones was on The Yogi Bear Show. -- Hoppybunny ( talk) 20:32, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I posted revisions 3 times against policy. Initially I thought I was doing something wrong and that's why it kept reverting t it's previous incarnation. After getting messages from what I presume are moderators, it became obvious that my revisions were being removed on purpose, rather than an error on my part in the editing process.
My issue is with some of the content displayed as part of the Yogi Bear page. Racial inequities and transgression of the past and present are serious matters, and they need to be discussed openly and honestly.
However, to the best of my knowledge, there NEVER was any portrayal of racial stereotypes or prejudices, or any other unacceptable racial references in the Yogi Bear cartoons themselves. And therefore I believe it is inappropriate to imply a racial synopsis of the cartoon, as the content published by Mr. Lehman did. While there CERTAINLY have been inappropriate references of various kinds portrayed in some cartoons of the past, they were not present in ALL cartoons. Where they were, I feel it is perfectly legitimate to mention so in an article(s) or page about such cartoons.
Racial inequality is a SERIOUS subject, and should be taken as such. But I also believe that the discussion is cheapened when applied erroneously or inaccurately. I believe the reference to racial inequities of the past as described on the Yogi Bear page is factually in error. If we're going to talk accurately about "Yogi Bear" as a cartoon, we should talk factually about the cartoon. References to cultural or systemic inequities of the time period should not be included in the discussion or information of the cartoon itself, unless of course it referenced those issues in its content.
Thank you for your time.
Tom
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I happened upon the Yogi Bear page through a link which was posted in jest with regard to Yogi's habit of considering himself to be better than other bears. I wish I could say I was surprised by finding an 'Analysis' section in the article in which the cartoon was held under the lens of Critical theory and as such ascribed all sort of racial and cultural characteristics which the original authors never thought about when they made the cartoons, including references to the park ranger's 'whiteness'. To put it bluntly I'll just state that 'Tom' has it right here and 'SummerPhDv2.0' either did not look closely at what is actually written here or is in support of the application of 'critical theory' - and thus supports violating the original NPOV policy which Wikipedia once had - to encyclopedia entries. Assuming the former to be the case it should be clear that this 'Analysis' section has no place in this article and should be removed like 'Tom' did several times. If the latter is true there is a lot of explanation due on why Wikipedia allows this type of deviation from the (current weakened version of the) NPOV policy. The mere fact that there is an article which ascribes these attributes to Yogi Bear and other cartoons does not suffice since the article itself clearly comes from a controversial and non-neutral source - yes, 'critical theory' is controversial and not main stream except for in some sections of the humanities. This refutes what 'SummerPhDv2.0' states in reference to the supposed debate on whether the source is "right" or not, otherwise it would be just as uncontroversial to include references to the Protocols of Zion or the Anarchist Cookbook as sources for such sections. Clearly this is not the case so there is a filtering criterion on which sources to include and which not to include. Political activism - which is what 'critical theory' is - does not make a reliable source if the NPOV is to be kept. Therefore I will remove the 'Analysis' section with the stated justification. If another editor wants to revert this removal he or she should justify this in some way by explaining why an expression of political activism has a place in a Wikipedia entry on a cartoon bear.
Yetanwiki ( talk) 22:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Christopher P. Lehman has written extensively on animation history, and he is not a fringe author. Comparing his works to the Protocols of Zion without reason suggests more about you than his writings.
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I wish I had proof of this, but I thought Yogi said he wore the hat and tie because he wanted to be seen as human. It could just be my imagination, which really doesn't help. -- Macrowiz 06:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Huh? I've always assumed we're seeing his own skin. Where's the support for this statement about the skin being part of his costume? 171.64.71.123 03:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
In the pic, which of the two is Yogi ? Jay 17:46, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I read somewhere that Yogi Bear was based on Phil Silvers' Seargeant Bilko though I've never quite worked out why.
What, no mention of Ranger Smith anywhere? He was the original uptight cartoon guy!
Does anybody know the name of one of Yogi and Boo Boo's friends? He is a very small bear who wears a blue/teal bowtie. He is mostly sitting in the cartoons. I wish I could provide more details but I saw this episode at an IHOP one morning and couldn't hear the sound.
"Yogi Bear is a fictional cartoon bear": No, he is a REAL cartoon bear, because the cartoon about him does exist! He is a FICTIONAL BEAR, but a REAL CARTOON BEAR!
cartoons created by Hanna-Barbera Productions." Wahkeenah 09:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
also used to run a music video called yogi bear. It has a song by a band called High school Jim. They still air it on Boomerang. But I haven't been able to find info on the band. So its tough getting verification.
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Is it worth mentioning that High School Jim made a tribute song to Yogi Bear? Kikiluvscheese 05:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
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Why is this not at Yogi Bear? The article is about the bear, and whereas there would be no bear without the show, and no show without the bear, Yogi Bear is a more likely search term. pablo hablo. 19:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was page moved. — harej ( talk) 10:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
After the move, the infobox now needs to be split out into a separate article on The Yogi Bear Show, which also needs to be added to the dab page. Powers T 13:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
The wikilinks restored today represent characteristics important to understanding this character. They are veriable by watching the cartoon alone or looking at its images or sound bites.-- Morenooso ( talk) 12:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Quote: "In 1960, the pop group Ivy 3, recorded a song called "Yogi", a novelty song with the impersonation of Daws Butler. The song described Yogi as a "Yogi Man", and featured the catch phrases "Hey, Boo-Boo" and "Yogi Baby". The song went up to #8 on the Billboard charts"
The actual name of the pop group is "The Ivy Three". When in doubt, search for images of the albums of the band. The proper spelling is the one printed on the album.
The article states several times that Christine Taylor will play Cindy Bear in the Movie, yet neither the character or actor appear in the credits on the poster and Cindy does not appear in in any of the promotional material or in any of the three trailers released so far. Also, none of the sources sited for her character being in the movie actually mention her. Does anyone have any evidence at all that she will be in the movie? If not, then all references to Christine Taylor or Cindy bear should be removed from the movie section of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.12.173 ( talk) 12:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I believe the issue of potential homosexuality should not be readded. It places undue weight on a topic that I believe is a non-issue for most people. Also, the paper the section references contains the opinion of only one man, who, as a gay man himself who writes almost exclusively about gay issues, cannot be objective. Judgeking ( talk) 18:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Cartoon_Sexuality WhisperToMe ( talk) 02:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Was Ranger Jones on The Yogi Bear Show or is he just in the film? -- Hoppybunny ( talk) 02:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I found out Ranger Jones was on The Yogi Bear Show. -- Hoppybunny ( talk) 20:32, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I posted revisions 3 times against policy. Initially I thought I was doing something wrong and that's why it kept reverting t it's previous incarnation. After getting messages from what I presume are moderators, it became obvious that my revisions were being removed on purpose, rather than an error on my part in the editing process.
My issue is with some of the content displayed as part of the Yogi Bear page. Racial inequities and transgression of the past and present are serious matters, and they need to be discussed openly and honestly.
However, to the best of my knowledge, there NEVER was any portrayal of racial stereotypes or prejudices, or any other unacceptable racial references in the Yogi Bear cartoons themselves. And therefore I believe it is inappropriate to imply a racial synopsis of the cartoon, as the content published by Mr. Lehman did. While there CERTAINLY have been inappropriate references of various kinds portrayed in some cartoons of the past, they were not present in ALL cartoons. Where they were, I feel it is perfectly legitimate to mention so in an article(s) or page about such cartoons.
Racial inequality is a SERIOUS subject, and should be taken as such. But I also believe that the discussion is cheapened when applied erroneously or inaccurately. I believe the reference to racial inequities of the past as described on the Yogi Bear page is factually in error. If we're going to talk accurately about "Yogi Bear" as a cartoon, we should talk factually about the cartoon. References to cultural or systemic inequities of the time period should not be included in the discussion or information of the cartoon itself, unless of course it referenced those issues in its content.
Thank you for your time.
Tom
24.151.145.218 (
talk) 05:16, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I happened upon the Yogi Bear page through a link which was posted in jest with regard to Yogi's habit of considering himself to be better than other bears. I wish I could say I was surprised by finding an 'Analysis' section in the article in which the cartoon was held under the lens of Critical theory and as such ascribed all sort of racial and cultural characteristics which the original authors never thought about when they made the cartoons, including references to the park ranger's 'whiteness'. To put it bluntly I'll just state that 'Tom' has it right here and 'SummerPhDv2.0' either did not look closely at what is actually written here or is in support of the application of 'critical theory' - and thus supports violating the original NPOV policy which Wikipedia once had - to encyclopedia entries. Assuming the former to be the case it should be clear that this 'Analysis' section has no place in this article and should be removed like 'Tom' did several times. If the latter is true there is a lot of explanation due on why Wikipedia allows this type of deviation from the (current weakened version of the) NPOV policy. The mere fact that there is an article which ascribes these attributes to Yogi Bear and other cartoons does not suffice since the article itself clearly comes from a controversial and non-neutral source - yes, 'critical theory' is controversial and not main stream except for in some sections of the humanities. This refutes what 'SummerPhDv2.0' states in reference to the supposed debate on whether the source is "right" or not, otherwise it would be just as uncontroversial to include references to the Protocols of Zion or the Anarchist Cookbook as sources for such sections. Clearly this is not the case so there is a filtering criterion on which sources to include and which not to include. Political activism - which is what 'critical theory' is - does not make a reliable source if the NPOV is to be kept. Therefore I will remove the 'Analysis' section with the stated justification. If another editor wants to revert this removal he or she should justify this in some way by explaining why an expression of political activism has a place in a Wikipedia entry on a cartoon bear.
Yetanwiki ( talk) 22:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Christopher P. Lehman has written extensively on animation history, and he is not a fringe author. Comparing his works to the Protocols of Zion without reason suggests more about you than his writings.
Dimadick (
talk) 17:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC)