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Assuming, of course, this page isn't deleted, I think perhaps this page should be renamed. Firstly, I don't think there have been other spree killings in Mitake, Yamaguchi, so there's no need to specify 2013. Secondly, is this even a spree killing? I propose renaming the page to something like Mitake murders, Haiku Killer, or whatever the killer's name is. Paris1127 ( talk) 16:02, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
The suspect's surname is Homi, that much I am sure of. However, translations of Japanese articles have his first name as either Kosei or Mitsunari. Could one or the other be something else, other than his first name? I'm not sure how to render his name. For anyone who can help, his name in Kana is ほみ こうせい and his name in Kanji is 保見光成. Paris1127 ( talk) 23:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
ABC News The Hong Kong Standard Agence France Press
I found these while looking to see how widely distributed the name was. I posted them to the WP:BLP/N discussion, and figured someone might find them useful here. Not for adding the name. I personally think it should be included, but that conversation needs more tiime to develop before we reach consensus. I post these here so we can flesh out the article in other ways. I'm headed to work right now (damn I hate how real life interferes with volunteer work!) but over the next few days we need to weave the refs at the bottom of the article and these three into the article as footnote/refs. David in DC ( talk) 12:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
While we're discussing whether or not to use the suspect's name, I've been working on compiling a list of the victims, using sources from the Japanese version of the page (and Google Translate because I can neither read nor understand Japanese):
Not sure of spellings, Romanization, etc. This list is in no way definitive and I'd prefer a Japanese speaker go over it before it's posted. Sources: Yomiuri, MSN Sankei, Asahi, Japan Daily Press, ABC. Paris1127 ( talk) 14:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Just asking. Thank you, -- Malerooster ( talk) 01:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Um, why is the quotation about the sum of all human knowledge not a good answer? It's our core purpose. The murders are notable, as determined by multiple, non-trivial references in reliable sources. If one thinks an article doesn't belong on wikipedia, one can file a nomination to delete the article. But if the rationale for deletion is
why should the daily news been rewritten in an encyclopedia? Let news where they belong, in newspapers. Except there are any new conclusions presented in sources (a magazin, a book?). For this article, are there any new aspects of killing, burning and running presented?
with the sole policy cited being WP:NOT#NEWSPAPER, I'd be astonished to see the nomination succeed. David in DC ( talk) 22:39, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
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Assuming, of course, this page isn't deleted, I think perhaps this page should be renamed. Firstly, I don't think there have been other spree killings in Mitake, Yamaguchi, so there's no need to specify 2013. Secondly, is this even a spree killing? I propose renaming the page to something like Mitake murders, Haiku Killer, or whatever the killer's name is. Paris1127 ( talk) 16:02, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
The suspect's surname is Homi, that much I am sure of. However, translations of Japanese articles have his first name as either Kosei or Mitsunari. Could one or the other be something else, other than his first name? I'm not sure how to render his name. For anyone who can help, his name in Kana is ほみ こうせい and his name in Kanji is 保見光成. Paris1127 ( talk) 23:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
ABC News The Hong Kong Standard Agence France Press
I found these while looking to see how widely distributed the name was. I posted them to the WP:BLP/N discussion, and figured someone might find them useful here. Not for adding the name. I personally think it should be included, but that conversation needs more tiime to develop before we reach consensus. I post these here so we can flesh out the article in other ways. I'm headed to work right now (damn I hate how real life interferes with volunteer work!) but over the next few days we need to weave the refs at the bottom of the article and these three into the article as footnote/refs. David in DC ( talk) 12:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
While we're discussing whether or not to use the suspect's name, I've been working on compiling a list of the victims, using sources from the Japanese version of the page (and Google Translate because I can neither read nor understand Japanese):
Not sure of spellings, Romanization, etc. This list is in no way definitive and I'd prefer a Japanese speaker go over it before it's posted. Sources: Yomiuri, MSN Sankei, Asahi, Japan Daily Press, ABC. Paris1127 ( talk) 14:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Just asking. Thank you, -- Malerooster ( talk) 01:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Um, why is the quotation about the sum of all human knowledge not a good answer? It's our core purpose. The murders are notable, as determined by multiple, non-trivial references in reliable sources. If one thinks an article doesn't belong on wikipedia, one can file a nomination to delete the article. But if the rationale for deletion is
why should the daily news been rewritten in an encyclopedia? Let news where they belong, in newspapers. Except there are any new conclusions presented in sources (a magazin, a book?). For this article, are there any new aspects of killing, burning and running presented?
with the sole policy cited being WP:NOT#NEWSPAPER, I'd be astonished to see the nomination succeed. David in DC ( talk) 22:39, 4 August 2013 (UTC)