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So there seems to be a disagreement on if the XSX qualifies as a 9th gen console. I personally believe it does, as the official page for it clearly states that the XSX is compatible with four generations of games (being Xbox - 6th, 360 - 7th, One - 8th and Series - 9th). There's even a header saying "Why Gen 9" which shows that Microsoft clearly thinks this is a 9th generation console. I'm not going to start an edit war, so let's discuss things here and come to a conclusion.
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I note that most links to this article are using "X/S" rather than the "X|S" that Microsoft is using to promote their consoles. Is there a particular reason for this, beyond avoid potential wiki-markup issues? -- Jasca Ducato ( talk | contributions) 13:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
[[Xbox Series X and Series S|Xbox Series X|S]]
gives
Xbox Series X|S. Talk page sections with the character can also be linked to as [[#X/S or X|S]]
#X/S or X|S. The note currently used to explain why we don't use "Xbox Series X|S" is misleading. The only thing we cannot do with the name is use it as the article title (we would not anyway, since we are not using "Xbox Series X/S" either), but the note suggests that typing out "Xbox Series X|S" on Wikipedia is impossible.
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Under Section ===System software and features=== It says "Both consoles uses a similar" In proper English this should be Both consoles use a similar
use not useS Skittlebiz ( talk) 14:04, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
With some gamers getting the Xbox Series X and Series S early, we're starting to see confirmations of the actual usable storage capacity. This isn't something we traditionally include in articles, but I was wondering if we should, going forward. The whole point of the article is to provide information to the reader, after all (with reliable references, of course). -- Jasca Ducato ( talk | contributions) 10:52, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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Change the main image for one of the two consoles
Hi. I'd like to propose to all editors watching this page that 2.3.1 should be renamed to Xbox Velocity Architecture, as it is the branded name for the technology. I'd reckon if someone wants to finds out about this, they can easily find it. SuddenlyMangoes ( talk) 05:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi there. Does anyone consider that we should change the title of this page from current one to Xbox Series X/S or Xbox fourth generation? It is a very long title now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix ( talk • contribs) 13:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I understand but what if another console is released? Are we gonna add that to the title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I can also suggest Xbox 2020 console but you probably won't like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix ( talk • contribs) 14:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Currently (as of November 19, 08:42 US CT) the beginning of the title says "The Xbox Series X and Series S", but I would suggest that this portion of the article say "The Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S", and also change the name in the infobar to say "Xbox Series X [enter] Xbox Series S" as while Microsoft can call them Series X|S, the name for the individual consoles both contain the Xbox brand; I suggest that it be changed to what I describe to make it more 'consistent' with other articles talking about correlated titles (e.g., Pokémon Red and Blue which says "Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Blue Version"). I was Alejandro Herrera Barboza ( talk) 14:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
War, can you please explain how my edit doesn't meet basic standards? thank you Grandia01 ( talk) 07:05, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
https://xboxera.com/2020/10/15/xbox-an-rpg-powerhouse/
https://wccftech.com/phil-spencer-focus-rpg/
thanks Grandia01 ( talk) 07:22, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Therefore that change you want to make does not accurately reflect the references that you site. War ( talk) 07:33, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Respectfully, I have removed the text and reference from the article for the following reason: the Xbox console manufacturer, Microsoft, does not produce games for its own console. That is the task of Xbox Games Studios, a subsidiary. XGS may well be focusing on RPG releases going forward, but the console itself, is not. -- JascaDucato ( talk | contributions) 10:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I think the page should state the Technical Problems that have happened for the Xbox Series X such as Microsoft stating that to not blow Vaping Smoke into Series X and the Series X constantly overheating according to many users and critics. So I should say that should be included cause It happened a few weeks (about 2-3 weeks) ago. -- StaleGuy22 ( talk) 01:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Whilst I appreciate the effort put in by the current image provider, is there any reason we cannot use one of these images from the Microsoft Media Asset Library? The fact that these images are freely available to download suggests a fair use licence, at the very least, is granted. -- JascaDucato ( talk | contributions) 16:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be mentioned or have a footnote that the 2TB expansion card is planned but not yet official or available? It specifies it higher up in the listing but not on the specs table -- Unrecoverable ( talk) 00:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Should we trim down the hatnotes by merging or putting the links in the "See also" section? I think 4 hatnotes in a single page is pretty cluttery. Any thoughts on how to solve this? PyroFloe ( talk) 16:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
What's the source for this? The latest figure has it at 6.5 million. TheMassEffector ( talk) 21:11, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Someone needs to change the photo heading to include both Xbox series X and Xbox Series S 138.88.70.179 ( talk) 01:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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Seems like no one updated sales numbers since 2021, so i decided to update this page. For those who are not happy about this, i'm sorry guys. 2A0F:74C0:800:3C00:54E5:BA74:B59B:F1AF ( talk) 16:02, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hello it seems there's conflicting/confusing information inside the infobox versus the info given in the article. The Internal storage listed in the Comparison table is listed as a "PCIe Gen 4 custom NVMe SSD" but is present in the infobox as a simple WD SN530 NVMe SSD, which I would assume to be an off-the-shelf part, not a custom one. Checking the manufacturer's product page also shows that the SN530 SSD is a PCIe Gen 3 x4 SSD, while the infobox claims the Xbox Series X uses a PCIe Gen 4 x2 link. But wouldn't that mean that the SSD is running at Gen 3 speed while using only 2 PCIe lanes? Meaning that while the drive has a maximum theoretical sequential read speed of 2,4 GB/s, the link can only hit 1.969 GB/s if I am to refer to this table. I would guess that the custom part of the storage is that the drive is in fact a PCIe Gen 4 x2 SSD based on the WD SN530 and that nuance should be reflected in the infobox. Would like to hear some thoughts about this. Ex Host97 ( talk) 05:03, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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The vertical bar symbol you used is apparently HEBREW PUNCTUATION PASEQ (0x05C0 (05c0)) which is not on a standard keyboard. I expect you chose that character rather than | (which can be typed on a keyboard) because the MediaWiki software doesn't allow that character in page titles. As Serge said, there are other concerns that go into the naming of a page beyond just what an organization calls something "officially". — Locke Cole • t • c 15:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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So there seems to be a disagreement on if the XSX qualifies as a 9th gen console. I personally believe it does, as the official page for it clearly states that the XSX is compatible with four generations of games (being Xbox - 6th, 360 - 7th, One - 8th and Series - 9th). There's even a header saying "Why Gen 9" which shows that Microsoft clearly thinks this is a 9th generation console. I'm not going to start an edit war, so let's discuss things here and come to a conclusion.
2607:FCC8:8D87:2600:6162:C88A:22F2:CD98 ( talk) 17:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
References
I note that most links to this article are using "X/S" rather than the "X|S" that Microsoft is using to promote their consoles. Is there a particular reason for this, beyond avoid potential wiki-markup issues? -- Jasca Ducato ( talk | contributions) 13:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
[[Xbox Series X and Series S|Xbox Series X|S]]
gives
Xbox Series X|S. Talk page sections with the character can also be linked to as [[#X/S or X|S]]
#X/S or X|S. The note currently used to explain why we don't use "Xbox Series X|S" is misleading. The only thing we cannot do with the name is use it as the article title (we would not anyway, since we are not using "Xbox Series X/S" either), but the note suggests that typing out "Xbox Series X|S" on Wikipedia is impossible.
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Under Section ===System software and features=== It says "Both consoles uses a similar" In proper English this should be Both consoles use a similar
use not useS Skittlebiz ( talk) 14:04, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
With some gamers getting the Xbox Series X and Series S early, we're starting to see confirmations of the actual usable storage capacity. This isn't something we traditionally include in articles, but I was wondering if we should, going forward. The whole point of the article is to provide information to the reader, after all (with reliable references, of course). -- Jasca Ducato ( talk | contributions) 10:52, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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Change the main image for one of the two consoles
Hi. I'd like to propose to all editors watching this page that 2.3.1 should be renamed to Xbox Velocity Architecture, as it is the branded name for the technology. I'd reckon if someone wants to finds out about this, they can easily find it. SuddenlyMangoes ( talk) 05:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi there. Does anyone consider that we should change the title of this page from current one to Xbox Series X/S or Xbox fourth generation? It is a very long title now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix ( talk • contribs) 13:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I understand but what if another console is released? Are we gonna add that to the title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I can also suggest Xbox 2020 console but you probably won't like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix ( talk • contribs) 14:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Currently (as of November 19, 08:42 US CT) the beginning of the title says "The Xbox Series X and Series S", but I would suggest that this portion of the article say "The Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S", and also change the name in the infobar to say "Xbox Series X [enter] Xbox Series S" as while Microsoft can call them Series X|S, the name for the individual consoles both contain the Xbox brand; I suggest that it be changed to what I describe to make it more 'consistent' with other articles talking about correlated titles (e.g., Pokémon Red and Blue which says "Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Blue Version"). I was Alejandro Herrera Barboza ( talk) 14:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
War, can you please explain how my edit doesn't meet basic standards? thank you Grandia01 ( talk) 07:05, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
https://xboxera.com/2020/10/15/xbox-an-rpg-powerhouse/
https://wccftech.com/phil-spencer-focus-rpg/
thanks Grandia01 ( talk) 07:22, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Therefore that change you want to make does not accurately reflect the references that you site. War ( talk) 07:33, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Respectfully, I have removed the text and reference from the article for the following reason: the Xbox console manufacturer, Microsoft, does not produce games for its own console. That is the task of Xbox Games Studios, a subsidiary. XGS may well be focusing on RPG releases going forward, but the console itself, is not. -- JascaDucato ( talk | contributions) 10:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I think the page should state the Technical Problems that have happened for the Xbox Series X such as Microsoft stating that to not blow Vaping Smoke into Series X and the Series X constantly overheating according to many users and critics. So I should say that should be included cause It happened a few weeks (about 2-3 weeks) ago. -- StaleGuy22 ( talk) 01:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Whilst I appreciate the effort put in by the current image provider, is there any reason we cannot use one of these images from the Microsoft Media Asset Library? The fact that these images are freely available to download suggests a fair use licence, at the very least, is granted. -- JascaDucato ( talk | contributions) 16:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be mentioned or have a footnote that the 2TB expansion card is planned but not yet official or available? It specifies it higher up in the listing but not on the specs table -- Unrecoverable ( talk) 00:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Should we trim down the hatnotes by merging or putting the links in the "See also" section? I think 4 hatnotes in a single page is pretty cluttery. Any thoughts on how to solve this? PyroFloe ( talk) 16:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
What's the source for this? The latest figure has it at 6.5 million. TheMassEffector ( talk) 21:11, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Someone needs to change the photo heading to include both Xbox series X and Xbox Series S 138.88.70.179 ( talk) 01:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pizzaplayer219
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Seems like no one updated sales numbers since 2021, so i decided to update this page. For those who are not happy about this, i'm sorry guys. 2A0F:74C0:800:3C00:54E5:BA74:B59B:F1AF ( talk) 16:02, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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QuicoleJR (
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Hello it seems there's conflicting/confusing information inside the infobox versus the info given in the article. The Internal storage listed in the Comparison table is listed as a "PCIe Gen 4 custom NVMe SSD" but is present in the infobox as a simple WD SN530 NVMe SSD, which I would assume to be an off-the-shelf part, not a custom one. Checking the manufacturer's product page also shows that the SN530 SSD is a PCIe Gen 3 x4 SSD, while the infobox claims the Xbox Series X uses a PCIe Gen 4 x2 link. But wouldn't that mean that the SSD is running at Gen 3 speed while using only 2 PCIe lanes? Meaning that while the drive has a maximum theoretical sequential read speed of 2,4 GB/s, the link can only hit 1.969 GB/s if I am to refer to this table. I would guess that the custom part of the storage is that the drive is in fact a PCIe Gen 4 x2 SSD based on the WD SN530 and that nuance should be reflected in the infobox. Would like to hear some thoughts about this. Ex Host97 ( talk) 05:03, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
@
Sendtel + and
Sergecross73:As regards the undiscussed move to
Xbox Series X׀S, please be aware of
WP:TSC, specifically, Characters not on a standard keyboard (use redirects): Sometimes the most appropriate title contains
diacritics (accent marks), dashes, or other letters and characters not found on most English-language keyboards. This can make it difficult to navigate to the article directly. In such cases, provide redirects from versions of the title that use only standard keyboard characters. (Similarly, in cases where it is determined that the most appropriate title is one that omits
diacritics, dashes, and other letters not found on most English-language keyboards, provide redirects from versions of the title that contain them.) However, avoid
combining diacritical marks, which are difficult to type and interfere with adjacent characters
.
The vertical bar symbol you used is apparently HEBREW PUNCTUATION PASEQ (0x05C0 (05c0)) which is not on a standard keyboard. I expect you chose that character rather than | (which can be typed on a keyboard) because the MediaWiki software doesn't allow that character in page titles. As Serge said, there are other concerns that go into the naming of a page beyond just what an organization calls something "officially". — Locke Cole • t • c 15:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)