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I never really created not modified a wiki page, but I'm quite excited for the next wonder woman/DC universe and I thought that it will be cool, now that it has been released, the logo for the film. Niko992 ( talk) 18:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
What justifies putting this in Category:World War I films? -- Pemilligan ( talk) 01:14, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
This image featuring Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman (in the foreground), Connie Nielsen as Queen Hippolyta, Robin Wright (on the far right) as General Antiope, and Lisa Loven Kongsli (on the far left) as Menalippe. -- Atvica ( talk) 01:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi there. There was no such thing as the independent "United States Air Force" until 1947, well after both World War I and World War II were over. This movie is set during WWI, and during that time, the aviation branch of the U.S. Army was known as the "U.S. Army Air Service." Thanks. 2601:CB:8080:6EF:98CC:1874:596D:7AAA ( talk) 23:37, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
In the characters descriptions, shouldn't it be mentioned that Wonder Woman & Ares are half-sister/half-brother to each other? DCTrinity ( talk) 1:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Wonder Woman budget revealed to be $150 million: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/complex-gender-politics-wonder-woman-movie-1008259. Hope we can add this into the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 ( talk) 14:23, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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CHANGE CHARACTER DESCRIPTION FOR DAVID THEWLIS FROM ARES TO SIR PATRICK MORGAN. The film hasn't yet been released and this has spoiled the movie already! Sunetro ( talk) 18:13, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Would that be possible to include the issue of banning Wonder Woman from showing in Lebanon in the article as it featured an headlines due to the leading actress, Gal Gadot as a Israeli had something to do with political turmoil between Lebanon and Israel? Saiph121 ( talk) 01:40, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Wonder Woman has broken the Philippines' 2017 box office record for highest earning non-holiday opening day, according to Francis Soliven, general manager of Warner Bros Philippines. It earned P48.39 million on its first day in cinemas, June 1. It beat the previous record holder, Bill Condon's Beauty and the Beast, which starred Emma Watson and Dan Stevens. Beauty and the Beast earned P47 million on its opening day in the Philippines.
Source [2] jmarkfrancia ( talk) 15:00, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
This feels like an understatement; "with many critics calling it the first good DCEU film" would be more accurate. The two cited sources do support the current description more literally, but they point out that this film has received overwhelmingly positive reviews, while the previous two were largely negative. If a source shows up that explicitly states what the Independent and the Hollywood Reporter both heavily imply, that should probably be subbed in in their place. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:05, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
That's unnecessary additional information. "The best DCEU film" is sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.73.214 ( talk) 05:54, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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Please change David Thewlis' role from Ares to Sir Patrick.
Maybe something like this: David Thewlis as Sir Patrick: Sir Patrick Morgan, a speaker for peace on the Imperial War Cabinet who allies himself with Diana and Steve. He is later revealed to be the treacherous son of Zeus and half-brother of Diana, based on the Greek mythological god of War.
The wikipedia article stating David Thewlis' role affects what is seen on google. This will spoil the movie for many people who google the Wonder Woman cast: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/06/02/searching_wonder_woman_on_google_spoils_david_thewlis_character_in_the_new.html
Please consider other moviegoers, what if your favorite twist from your favorite film was spoiled before you even watched it for the first time?
I saw the previous request was denied, and I completely understand that you don't avoid spoilers in wiki articles, but this doesn't just affect wiki, it affects anyone who wants to Google the Wonder Woman cast before they see the movie. Plus, by saying he is Ares in the description doesn't remove the spoiler anyway, it just makes it safer for those who want to Google the cast. It's not just affecting the wiki page and my suggestion doesn't even remove the spoiler, it just hides it better, so please consider the change.
DiacetylmorphineHydrochloride ( talk) 02:12, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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Please change David Thewlis' role from Ares to Sir Patrick.
Maybe something like this: David Thewlis as Sir Patrick: Sir Patrick Morgan, a speaker for peace on the Imperial War Cabinet who allies himself with Diana and Steve. He is later revealed to be the treacherous son of Zeus and half-brother of Diana, based on the Greek mythological god of War.
The wikipedia article stating David Thewlis' role affects what is seen on google. This will spoil the movie for many people who google the Wonder Woman cast: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/06/02/searching_wonder_woman_on_google_spoils_david_thewlis_character_in_the_new.html
Please consider other moviegoers, what if your favorite twist from your favorite film was spoiled before you even watched it for the first time? DiacetylmorphineHydrochloride ( talk) 02:15, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
"Anyway, people shouldn't be Googling the cast of the film if they don't want to know the cast of the film." Wait, what?? People can't google the cast if they want to know the names of the actors without getting spoilers? Looking up the cast doesn't necessarily mean you want to spoil character revelations, you just want to know the name of the actor that you've recognized before. That's the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiacetylmorphineHydrochloride ( talk • contribs) 03:30, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Under "Cast", Information about David Thewlis' character is in the middle of Connie Nielsen's information, rather than on its own line. Put David Thewlis' information on his own line. 47.55.241.103 ( talk) 16:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Where does "wealthy entrepreneur" come from? I got the impression she worked/had an office at the Louvre. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:52, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
I have invited User:JetChained to discussion here to discuss his edit-warring to re-insert his WP:SYNTH analysis, written in a magazine-y WP:TONE with WP:POV and WP:PUFFERY. Two editors so far have been reverting this inappropriate edits.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 17:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Under the Release section, in the controversies section, The line "Some boys and men were unhappy with the "women-only" screenings held at Alamo Drafthouse Cinema in Austin" seems a bit political/sexist. It should probably be reworded to something like in the CNN article (reference 129) "some male moviegoers aren't happy about some scheduled women-only screenings of the film" 72.201.46.123 ( talk) 00:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
And now this anon IP is claiming that The New York Times and The Washington Post are examples of fake, liberal media that don't represent real 'murcans. That's not a tenable argument. I mean, one could go argue with their Pulitzer Prizes, but unless it's like Disney's Beauty and the Beast, the Pulitzers won't argue back.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 23:49, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
A novelization is a work of fiction--it's a primary source. It cannot be used as a reliable source for another work of fiction, the movie. A novelization is not a secondary source. DonQuixote ( talk) 23:27, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello Everyone, I appreciate all of the feedback and since consensus is against using the novelization, I will adhere to it and not re-insert the quotes. If you look at the edit history, I initially added two descriptions from the novelization (which is not a unique novel, but is instead an adaptation of a screenplay) because people were making guesses about Trevor (that his character is British) and Diana (that she is an entrepreneur). My goal was the same as yours - to make certain that the article is accurate.
I looked at some of the official Video Clips from Warner Bros. and found the one posted below (you can Google it under "Wonder Woman ['Lasso Of Truth' Movie Clip in HD (1080p)]"), in which Steve Trevor states: "My name is captain Steve Trevor, pilot, American Expeditionary Forces."
In defining Trevor, I cited the novelization for the following sentence, which was later removed:
I could not find clips from the Louvre sequences, so we will have to wait for the release of the DVD. However, the film clip above indicates that the quote from the novelization is accurate with regard to Trevor. That being said, however, I am again not going to press the issue and will end my responses to this thread here. - Classicfilms ( talk) 07:15, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
The films also contains Dutch,French and Spanish sentences beside English — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.199.159.185 ( talk) 21:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I believe it would be useful to recognize the plethora of bad news reporting related to the film. For example:
Warner Bros. finally releases its $150-million production of "Wonder Woman," which could become the first superhero blockbuster with a woman in the lead.
DC Comics will be beating Marvel Studios to the box office with their first female-led superhero blockbuster in the form of 2017's Wonder Woman
Did 1984 Supergirl / 2004 Catwoman/ 2005 Elektra not qualify as blockbuster (entertainment) or something? What criteria do you need to meet to be called that? Is there a minimum amount of money? Supergirl was 14.3 million box office, Catwoman was 82.1 million, Elektra 56.7 million. The latter is concerning because Eisenberg of CinemaBlend is calling it a Blockbuster over 2 years before it came out, so he couldn't know how much money it would amass. Faughnder of LA Times at least says "could become" but this does still imply that S/C/E were NOT blockbusters.
With its lead star Gal Gadot, it has set a new benchmark for comic-book cinema, loudly and proudly featuring the first lead female superhero in our current spandex-obsessed era.
Are Catwoman/Elektra not "super" or "heroic" enough? Presently both articles on Wikipedia describe them as superhero film so that wouldn't seem right.
Is 1984, much less 2004 or 2005, in a different "era" than 2017? I think people were spandex-obsessed in 1984 too, you could consider 80s/90s/00s/10s to be one collective spandex-obsessed era. Some of the sources on this do acknowledge Elektra (2005 film) and focus on the "first female-directed" aspect, which excludes this and 1984 Supergirl (film) / 2004 Catwoman (film).
Even this could be wrong though, as this source identifies Tank Girl (film) and Rachel Talalay:
The only other woman to have helmed a superhero movie is Rachel Talalay, who directed another R-rated actioner, 1995's Tank Girl. Frankly, it might even be a stretch to count Talalay here, as some will likely call her a comic book hero, but not a superhero. The only other woman to have helmed a superhero movie is Rachel Talalay, who directed another R-rated actioner, 1995's Tank Girl. Frankly, it might even be a stretch to count Talalay here, as some will likely call her a comic book hero, but not a superhero.
You can see by checking the history that many sources initially misreported this and later corrected it.
This should cause concern to the reporters (and their editors who approved their articles) who initially made these claims without doing adequate research, and only corrected them after publishing.
For example do a "view source" on https://web.archive.org/web/20170606023631/https://variety.com/2017/film/news/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-female-empowerment-superhero-1202446146/ and you can see it says "First Lead Female Superhero". This is how the article shows up during google searches for the film. Variety Magazine can also be seen falsely advertising this on its official Twitter:
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Besides being the first movie to revolve around a female superhero, the film's production also features another novelty. Spearheading Wonder Woman's charge to theaters is director Patty Jenkins
This one especially bothers me:
In 2017, we will get the very first feature film of Wonder Woman. It will also be the very first lead female superhero movie ever.
since I vividly remember the awesomeness that is Keri Russell in Wonder Woman (2009 film) and clearly any claims it was the first live-action depiction would be wrong due to Cathy Crosby in Wonder Woman (1974 film).
Has any media actually highlighted this wave of misreporting that has gone on? Variety at least, being notable, might have invited some criticism on its misleading Tweets and Google-seeding. ScratchMarshall ( talk) 00:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
The article mentions the reason that Campaign to Boycott Supporters of Israel asked the Lebanese government to ban the movie but it is not mentioning the reason the government ban it.
In an official statement from May 30 the Ministry of Economy and Trade explained the reason of the ban is because "its lead actress, Gal GADOT, is Israeli." No mention for her service in Israeli military. So I think the current state may mislead the readers to think that Lebanese government ban the movie because Gadot's military service and not because her Israeli citizenship as the statement stated and as other sources says.( Variety, Reuters) I think the article should clarify that difference. Sokuya ( talk) 01:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC
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The article mentions Wonder Woman passing Mamma Mia to become the highest-grossing female-directed film in history. However the previous record holder was the Wachowski Sisters' The Matrix Reloaded, which grossed $742.1 million back in 2003. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.84.21 ( talk) 02:22, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
References
In the "Elena Anaya as Isabel Maru / Doctor Poison" of the Cast contains a claim that is an accurate summary of the article cited, but is not a factual claim. In an interview Elena Anaya states that Fritz Haber created mustard gas, but this is not factually correct. Haber oversaw the work to weaponize mustard gas and deploy it in battle, but mustard gas was already synthesized and characterized by 1860 before Haber was born!
It would be better to put the incorrect claim in quotations to better attribute it to Elena Anaya, or summarize the quotation by referring to Fritz Haber as the father of chemical warfare, as he is often described, instead of the creator of mustard gas, which he was not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.210.254 ( talk) 16:52, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
WOW!!! A lot of discussions here. I hope that there is a person watching this page to see this bit of info that needs to be added. I came to this article to find out when the film is going to be released on Blu Ray and DVD, but it has not been added. I Googled it and the release date and info was just posted 2 days ago. I'd add the new section myself, but I don't really know how, especially to make the link appear in the "Contents." So here's the link to at least one site reporting on the home media release. To those that monitor or run this page, feel free to add it. I do not need any credit. :) http://mashable.com/2017/08/10/wonder-woman-blu-ray-dvd-digital-hd/#o0TKSlJ1saqG Its not that you need the link to post in a new section, you just need it for a source. I am not skilled at adding new sections to Wikipedia articles, let alone adding the new section with it's link ("Home Media") appearing in the Contents box. Aidensdaddy2k9 ( talk) 18:58, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
I studied the other entries on the article tooth and nail to make sure that I got it right, and previewed it before I saved any changes. I added this entry myself, and got it done correctly. Which I'm quite proud of. Aidensdaddy2k9 ( talk) 20:25, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Deloop82 added as a statement about this being the highest grossing war film. This was removed by
SummerPhDv2.0 as this lacked sourcing. I added this via sourcing from BOM in the same place that Deloop82 added it. I later moved this from to the part of the text where it mentions the other highest grossing categories and clarified that the source saw World War I. This entire edit was reverted by Deloop82 saying World War I encompasses all war films
. SummerPhDv2.0 has now changed this to match the source. Could we please discuss here before anymore changes.
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I see the claim has now morphed to "the highest-grossing World War I-set film of all time". The source we have been discussing does not say that and the claim is not universal. More to the point, the source currently cited for the claim does not say anything about World War I.
IMO, the claim that this is the highest grossing war film or World War I film or World War I-set film or film about a woman from a fictional island or Amazonian movie or... whatever ... of all time is not an objective statement (hell, we can't be sure it's the highest grossing female directed film of all time). Such a claim, if included at at all, should be attributed in-line and does not belong in the lead paragraph. IMO, it doesn't belong here at all. Writers, list makers and web databases can churn out meaningless designations all day. Quick: What is the highest grossing underwater film of all time? The highest grossing film sailing film? Highest grossing film set in London? More importantly: Who cares? - SummerPhD v2.0 14:41, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Reaffirming: I do not think the claim is solid/meaningful enough for inclusion. When a variation of the claim is re-added without discussion or a source, I will revert it, as I just have. - SummerPhD v2.0 20:39, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, an anonymous editor feels it is a "feminist film". We do not have reliable sources supporting this, let alone an indication that this is WP:DEFINING.
The IP has been repeatedly warned. If need be, a range block and or page protection will end this.
Alternately, the IP could decide to discuss the issue at any point. - SummerPhD v2.0 03:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
@AnonIP(s): Yeah, no, not polarizing at all. Most of the negative reaction against the movie has been from a small minority. Making this minority larger than it actually is is placing undue weight on a fringe group. DonQuixote ( talk) 17:11, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
If, in the movie, Diana is the daughter of Zeus (a deity as per Greek mythology) and Queen Hippolyta (who is not a deity), doesn't that make her by definition a demigoddess? 24.71.180.185 ( talk) 03:35, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
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I never really created not modified a wiki page, but I'm quite excited for the next wonder woman/DC universe and I thought that it will be cool, now that it has been released, the logo for the film. Niko992 ( talk) 18:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
What justifies putting this in Category:World War I films? -- Pemilligan ( talk) 01:14, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
This image featuring Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman (in the foreground), Connie Nielsen as Queen Hippolyta, Robin Wright (on the far right) as General Antiope, and Lisa Loven Kongsli (on the far left) as Menalippe. -- Atvica ( talk) 01:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi there. There was no such thing as the independent "United States Air Force" until 1947, well after both World War I and World War II were over. This movie is set during WWI, and during that time, the aviation branch of the U.S. Army was known as the "U.S. Army Air Service." Thanks. 2601:CB:8080:6EF:98CC:1874:596D:7AAA ( talk) 23:37, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
In the characters descriptions, shouldn't it be mentioned that Wonder Woman & Ares are half-sister/half-brother to each other? DCTrinity ( talk) 1:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Wonder Woman budget revealed to be $150 million: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/complex-gender-politics-wonder-woman-movie-1008259. Hope we can add this into the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 ( talk) 14:23, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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CHANGE CHARACTER DESCRIPTION FOR DAVID THEWLIS FROM ARES TO SIR PATRICK MORGAN. The film hasn't yet been released and this has spoiled the movie already! Sunetro ( talk) 18:13, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Would that be possible to include the issue of banning Wonder Woman from showing in Lebanon in the article as it featured an headlines due to the leading actress, Gal Gadot as a Israeli had something to do with political turmoil between Lebanon and Israel? Saiph121 ( talk) 01:40, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Wonder Woman has broken the Philippines' 2017 box office record for highest earning non-holiday opening day, according to Francis Soliven, general manager of Warner Bros Philippines. It earned P48.39 million on its first day in cinemas, June 1. It beat the previous record holder, Bill Condon's Beauty and the Beast, which starred Emma Watson and Dan Stevens. Beauty and the Beast earned P47 million on its opening day in the Philippines.
Source [2] jmarkfrancia ( talk) 15:00, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
This feels like an understatement; "with many critics calling it the first good DCEU film" would be more accurate. The two cited sources do support the current description more literally, but they point out that this film has received overwhelmingly positive reviews, while the previous two were largely negative. If a source shows up that explicitly states what the Independent and the Hollywood Reporter both heavily imply, that should probably be subbed in in their place. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:05, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
That's unnecessary additional information. "The best DCEU film" is sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.73.214 ( talk) 05:54, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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Please change David Thewlis' role from Ares to Sir Patrick.
Maybe something like this: David Thewlis as Sir Patrick: Sir Patrick Morgan, a speaker for peace on the Imperial War Cabinet who allies himself with Diana and Steve. He is later revealed to be the treacherous son of Zeus and half-brother of Diana, based on the Greek mythological god of War.
The wikipedia article stating David Thewlis' role affects what is seen on google. This will spoil the movie for many people who google the Wonder Woman cast: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/06/02/searching_wonder_woman_on_google_spoils_david_thewlis_character_in_the_new.html
Please consider other moviegoers, what if your favorite twist from your favorite film was spoiled before you even watched it for the first time?
I saw the previous request was denied, and I completely understand that you don't avoid spoilers in wiki articles, but this doesn't just affect wiki, it affects anyone who wants to Google the Wonder Woman cast before they see the movie. Plus, by saying he is Ares in the description doesn't remove the spoiler anyway, it just makes it safer for those who want to Google the cast. It's not just affecting the wiki page and my suggestion doesn't even remove the spoiler, it just hides it better, so please consider the change.
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Please change David Thewlis' role from Ares to Sir Patrick.
Maybe something like this: David Thewlis as Sir Patrick: Sir Patrick Morgan, a speaker for peace on the Imperial War Cabinet who allies himself with Diana and Steve. He is later revealed to be the treacherous son of Zeus and half-brother of Diana, based on the Greek mythological god of War.
The wikipedia article stating David Thewlis' role affects what is seen on google. This will spoil the movie for many people who google the Wonder Woman cast: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/06/02/searching_wonder_woman_on_google_spoils_david_thewlis_character_in_the_new.html
Please consider other moviegoers, what if your favorite twist from your favorite film was spoiled before you even watched it for the first time? DiacetylmorphineHydrochloride ( talk) 02:15, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
"Anyway, people shouldn't be Googling the cast of the film if they don't want to know the cast of the film." Wait, what?? People can't google the cast if they want to know the names of the actors without getting spoilers? Looking up the cast doesn't necessarily mean you want to spoil character revelations, you just want to know the name of the actor that you've recognized before. That's the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiacetylmorphineHydrochloride ( talk • contribs) 03:30, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Under "Cast", Information about David Thewlis' character is in the middle of Connie Nielsen's information, rather than on its own line. Put David Thewlis' information on his own line. 47.55.241.103 ( talk) 16:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Where does "wealthy entrepreneur" come from? I got the impression she worked/had an office at the Louvre. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:52, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
I have invited User:JetChained to discussion here to discuss his edit-warring to re-insert his WP:SYNTH analysis, written in a magazine-y WP:TONE with WP:POV and WP:PUFFERY. Two editors so far have been reverting this inappropriate edits.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 17:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Under the Release section, in the controversies section, The line "Some boys and men were unhappy with the "women-only" screenings held at Alamo Drafthouse Cinema in Austin" seems a bit political/sexist. It should probably be reworded to something like in the CNN article (reference 129) "some male moviegoers aren't happy about some scheduled women-only screenings of the film" 72.201.46.123 ( talk) 00:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
And now this anon IP is claiming that The New York Times and The Washington Post are examples of fake, liberal media that don't represent real 'murcans. That's not a tenable argument. I mean, one could go argue with their Pulitzer Prizes, but unless it's like Disney's Beauty and the Beast, the Pulitzers won't argue back.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 23:49, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
A novelization is a work of fiction--it's a primary source. It cannot be used as a reliable source for another work of fiction, the movie. A novelization is not a secondary source. DonQuixote ( talk) 23:27, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello Everyone, I appreciate all of the feedback and since consensus is against using the novelization, I will adhere to it and not re-insert the quotes. If you look at the edit history, I initially added two descriptions from the novelization (which is not a unique novel, but is instead an adaptation of a screenplay) because people were making guesses about Trevor (that his character is British) and Diana (that she is an entrepreneur). My goal was the same as yours - to make certain that the article is accurate.
I looked at some of the official Video Clips from Warner Bros. and found the one posted below (you can Google it under "Wonder Woman ['Lasso Of Truth' Movie Clip in HD (1080p)]"), in which Steve Trevor states: "My name is captain Steve Trevor, pilot, American Expeditionary Forces."
In defining Trevor, I cited the novelization for the following sentence, which was later removed:
I could not find clips from the Louvre sequences, so we will have to wait for the release of the DVD. However, the film clip above indicates that the quote from the novelization is accurate with regard to Trevor. That being said, however, I am again not going to press the issue and will end my responses to this thread here. - Classicfilms ( talk) 07:15, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
The films also contains Dutch,French and Spanish sentences beside English — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.199.159.185 ( talk) 21:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I believe it would be useful to recognize the plethora of bad news reporting related to the film. For example:
Warner Bros. finally releases its $150-million production of "Wonder Woman," which could become the first superhero blockbuster with a woman in the lead.
DC Comics will be beating Marvel Studios to the box office with their first female-led superhero blockbuster in the form of 2017's Wonder Woman
Did 1984 Supergirl / 2004 Catwoman/ 2005 Elektra not qualify as blockbuster (entertainment) or something? What criteria do you need to meet to be called that? Is there a minimum amount of money? Supergirl was 14.3 million box office, Catwoman was 82.1 million, Elektra 56.7 million. The latter is concerning because Eisenberg of CinemaBlend is calling it a Blockbuster over 2 years before it came out, so he couldn't know how much money it would amass. Faughnder of LA Times at least says "could become" but this does still imply that S/C/E were NOT blockbusters.
With its lead star Gal Gadot, it has set a new benchmark for comic-book cinema, loudly and proudly featuring the first lead female superhero in our current spandex-obsessed era.
Are Catwoman/Elektra not "super" or "heroic" enough? Presently both articles on Wikipedia describe them as superhero film so that wouldn't seem right.
Is 1984, much less 2004 or 2005, in a different "era" than 2017? I think people were spandex-obsessed in 1984 too, you could consider 80s/90s/00s/10s to be one collective spandex-obsessed era. Some of the sources on this do acknowledge Elektra (2005 film) and focus on the "first female-directed" aspect, which excludes this and 1984 Supergirl (film) / 2004 Catwoman (film).
Even this could be wrong though, as this source identifies Tank Girl (film) and Rachel Talalay:
The only other woman to have helmed a superhero movie is Rachel Talalay, who directed another R-rated actioner, 1995's Tank Girl. Frankly, it might even be a stretch to count Talalay here, as some will likely call her a comic book hero, but not a superhero. The only other woman to have helmed a superhero movie is Rachel Talalay, who directed another R-rated actioner, 1995's Tank Girl. Frankly, it might even be a stretch to count Talalay here, as some will likely call her a comic book hero, but not a superhero.
You can see by checking the history that many sources initially misreported this and later corrected it.
This should cause concern to the reporters (and their editors who approved their articles) who initially made these claims without doing adequate research, and only corrected them after publishing.
For example do a "view source" on https://web.archive.org/web/20170606023631/https://variety.com/2017/film/news/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-female-empowerment-superhero-1202446146/ and you can see it says "First Lead Female Superhero". This is how the article shows up during google searches for the film. Variety Magazine can also be seen falsely advertising this on its official Twitter:
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help)We see this more frequently with less noteworthy/reliable publications too: http://wstale.com/tv-movies/gal-gadot-playing-wonder-woman-first-lead-female-superhero/
Besides being the first movie to revolve around a female superhero, the film's production also features another novelty. Spearheading Wonder Woman's charge to theaters is director Patty Jenkins
This one especially bothers me:
In 2017, we will get the very first feature film of Wonder Woman. It will also be the very first lead female superhero movie ever.
since I vividly remember the awesomeness that is Keri Russell in Wonder Woman (2009 film) and clearly any claims it was the first live-action depiction would be wrong due to Cathy Crosby in Wonder Woman (1974 film).
Has any media actually highlighted this wave of misreporting that has gone on? Variety at least, being notable, might have invited some criticism on its misleading Tweets and Google-seeding. ScratchMarshall ( talk) 00:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
The article mentions the reason that Campaign to Boycott Supporters of Israel asked the Lebanese government to ban the movie but it is not mentioning the reason the government ban it.
In an official statement from May 30 the Ministry of Economy and Trade explained the reason of the ban is because "its lead actress, Gal GADOT, is Israeli." No mention for her service in Israeli military. So I think the current state may mislead the readers to think that Lebanese government ban the movie because Gadot's military service and not because her Israeli citizenship as the statement stated and as other sources says.( Variety, Reuters) I think the article should clarify that difference. Sokuya ( talk) 01:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC
References
The article mentions Wonder Woman passing Mamma Mia to become the highest-grossing female-directed film in history. However the previous record holder was the Wachowski Sisters' The Matrix Reloaded, which grossed $742.1 million back in 2003. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.84.21 ( talk) 02:22, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
References
In the "Elena Anaya as Isabel Maru / Doctor Poison" of the Cast contains a claim that is an accurate summary of the article cited, but is not a factual claim. In an interview Elena Anaya states that Fritz Haber created mustard gas, but this is not factually correct. Haber oversaw the work to weaponize mustard gas and deploy it in battle, but mustard gas was already synthesized and characterized by 1860 before Haber was born!
It would be better to put the incorrect claim in quotations to better attribute it to Elena Anaya, or summarize the quotation by referring to Fritz Haber as the father of chemical warfare, as he is often described, instead of the creator of mustard gas, which he was not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.210.254 ( talk) 16:52, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
WOW!!! A lot of discussions here. I hope that there is a person watching this page to see this bit of info that needs to be added. I came to this article to find out when the film is going to be released on Blu Ray and DVD, but it has not been added. I Googled it and the release date and info was just posted 2 days ago. I'd add the new section myself, but I don't really know how, especially to make the link appear in the "Contents." So here's the link to at least one site reporting on the home media release. To those that monitor or run this page, feel free to add it. I do not need any credit. :) http://mashable.com/2017/08/10/wonder-woman-blu-ray-dvd-digital-hd/#o0TKSlJ1saqG Its not that you need the link to post in a new section, you just need it for a source. I am not skilled at adding new sections to Wikipedia articles, let alone adding the new section with it's link ("Home Media") appearing in the Contents box. Aidensdaddy2k9 ( talk) 18:58, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
I studied the other entries on the article tooth and nail to make sure that I got it right, and previewed it before I saved any changes. I added this entry myself, and got it done correctly. Which I'm quite proud of. Aidensdaddy2k9 ( talk) 20:25, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Deloop82 added as a statement about this being the highest grossing war film. This was removed by
SummerPhDv2.0 as this lacked sourcing. I added this via sourcing from BOM in the same place that Deloop82 added it. I later moved this from to the part of the text where it mentions the other highest grossing categories and clarified that the source saw World War I. This entire edit was reverted by Deloop82 saying World War I encompasses all war films
. SummerPhDv2.0 has now changed this to match the source. Could we please discuss here before anymore changes.
Emir of Wikipedia (
talk) 21:06, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I see the claim has now morphed to "the highest-grossing World War I-set film of all time". The source we have been discussing does not say that and the claim is not universal. More to the point, the source currently cited for the claim does not say anything about World War I.
IMO, the claim that this is the highest grossing war film or World War I film or World War I-set film or film about a woman from a fictional island or Amazonian movie or... whatever ... of all time is not an objective statement (hell, we can't be sure it's the highest grossing female directed film of all time). Such a claim, if included at at all, should be attributed in-line and does not belong in the lead paragraph. IMO, it doesn't belong here at all. Writers, list makers and web databases can churn out meaningless designations all day. Quick: What is the highest grossing underwater film of all time? The highest grossing film sailing film? Highest grossing film set in London? More importantly: Who cares? - SummerPhD v2.0 14:41, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Reaffirming: I do not think the claim is solid/meaningful enough for inclusion. When a variation of the claim is re-added without discussion or a source, I will revert it, as I just have. - SummerPhD v2.0 20:39, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, an anonymous editor feels it is a "feminist film". We do not have reliable sources supporting this, let alone an indication that this is WP:DEFINING.
The IP has been repeatedly warned. If need be, a range block and or page protection will end this.
Alternately, the IP could decide to discuss the issue at any point. - SummerPhD v2.0 03:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
@AnonIP(s): Yeah, no, not polarizing at all. Most of the negative reaction against the movie has been from a small minority. Making this minority larger than it actually is is placing undue weight on a fringe group. DonQuixote ( talk) 17:11, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
If, in the movie, Diana is the daughter of Zeus (a deity as per Greek mythology) and Queen Hippolyta (who is not a deity), doesn't that make her by definition a demigoddess? 24.71.180.185 ( talk) 03:35, 28 September 2017 (UTC)