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I wrote Harvey Milk's article, and I saw you're thinking of taking this to FA. If that is the goal, and I think it can be done, I suggest following the outline of the Stonewall riots article. The White Night riots should include a section to discuss the animosity between the gay community and the police, and the police's feelings of betrayal toward George Moscone. Dan White was a symbol of authority as a former policeman, even if he did not act at the behest of the police.
I also think you're going to have to add a section on what the riots did to change anything. Very soon the Castro was consumed with the AIDS crisis. How did what happened during the White Night riots influence the political approach to AIDS in San Francisco? What else did it change in the Castro, if anything?
I suggest getting Randy Shilts' Mayor of Castro Street. If you can get Mike Weiss' Doubly Play do that, too. I bought mine supercheap off of Amazon. Susan Stryker wrote an interesting look at the gay history of San Francisco called Gay by the Bay. I'll keep looking in, watching your progress. -- Moni3 ( talk) 01:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
To those editing this article to flesh it out more, I thank you for the work that is getting done. Keep in mind the following tips for adding references:
Once again, thank you for contributing to this article. Firestorm Talk 18:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I can review this for GA or you can use this as good advice for whomever takes it on. This would be my advice or my requests were I to do its GA review, however.
Don't be overwhelmed. I'm not slamming the article. I was surprised to see it nominated so soon. I don't think it's ready yet, but I think it can get there. -- Moni3 ( talk) 19:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) What if I put in File:Harvey Milk at 1978 Gay Freedom Day.jpg and File:GeorgeMoscone.jpg? They're GFDL and public domain, respectively. Do you think those would provide a suitable replacement for the Milk-White image that's there? Firestorm Talk 04:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I got permission from Mr. Nicoletta for another of his photos, so its going through OTRS now. Once I get it confirmed, i'll add it to the article. Firestorm Talk 22:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I really enjoyed reading this one. It's well written, and the different sections are knitted together so that the chronology flows logically. You don't always get that, especially without hard work. It is referenced well enough for my liking—not a {{ fact}} tag in sight, nor anyplace where I would wish to add one. There are no issues with image use, stability or neutrality. I took Moni3's informal review into account when reading the article, and she does a great job critiquing the coverage. I found it to be broad and detailed in almost every area, though I would love to see improvement in the areas she mentioned, especially the aftermath and legacy sections. I find these parts satisfactory, however, and not a reason in themselves to hold the article. So congrats on your first GA, Firestorm. Good luck at FAC ;) — Jake Wartenberg 19:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Whoops, just missed the peer review. Oh well. Overall, it's a very interesting article and I think it's pretty solid. Some suggestions, opinions, and thoughts:
-- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 15:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Keeping in mind the due respect he deserves, Harvey Milk was not the first openly gay person (male or female) elected in the United States when he was elected in 1977. That distinction falls upon Kathy Kozachenko of Ann Arbor, Michigan who was elected to city council while publicly out as a lesbian in April 1974. In November 1974, Elaine Noble was elected Massachusetts state representative while publicly out as a lesbian. Additionally, Allan Spear of Minnesota- having come out while in office in December 1974- was re-elected in 1976 and was the first openly gay man to do so. Also, Jim Yeadon became the fourth openly gay official to be elected when he retained his seat on the Madison, Wisconsin city council in April 1977.
Prior to Kozachenko, Noble, and Spear getting elected, Nancy Wechsler and Jerry DeGrieck were the first public officials to come out as gay while serving on the Ann Arbor city council in 1973 but were not publicly out of the closet when elected.
Some may want to decide on a brief yet important designation for Harvey Milk's place in history. In some articles, Harvey Milk is given the distinction as the "first openly gay non-incumbent elected in the United States." However, that seems wordy to some. Other articles have cited him as the "first openly gay man elected to high political office" or "high-profile office." This is subject to debate, on whether one deems a state senator (i.e. Spear) as a high/high-profile office or not. Nevertheless, this would still be more suitable than saying that Milk was the "first openly gay elected official," despite the significant impact of his time in office. Other articles decide to state how he was the first openly gay person elected in California.
References: Kathy Kozachenko | Elaine Noble | Allan Spear
Elaine Noble designation Allan Spear listing of 1976 re-election Wechsler and DeGrieck- Ann Arbor city council members Jim Yeadon Victory Fund explanation of firsts
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I wrote Harvey Milk's article, and I saw you're thinking of taking this to FA. If that is the goal, and I think it can be done, I suggest following the outline of the Stonewall riots article. The White Night riots should include a section to discuss the animosity between the gay community and the police, and the police's feelings of betrayal toward George Moscone. Dan White was a symbol of authority as a former policeman, even if he did not act at the behest of the police.
I also think you're going to have to add a section on what the riots did to change anything. Very soon the Castro was consumed with the AIDS crisis. How did what happened during the White Night riots influence the political approach to AIDS in San Francisco? What else did it change in the Castro, if anything?
I suggest getting Randy Shilts' Mayor of Castro Street. If you can get Mike Weiss' Doubly Play do that, too. I bought mine supercheap off of Amazon. Susan Stryker wrote an interesting look at the gay history of San Francisco called Gay by the Bay. I'll keep looking in, watching your progress. -- Moni3 ( talk) 01:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
To those editing this article to flesh it out more, I thank you for the work that is getting done. Keep in mind the following tips for adding references:
Once again, thank you for contributing to this article. Firestorm Talk 18:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I can review this for GA or you can use this as good advice for whomever takes it on. This would be my advice or my requests were I to do its GA review, however.
Don't be overwhelmed. I'm not slamming the article. I was surprised to see it nominated so soon. I don't think it's ready yet, but I think it can get there. -- Moni3 ( talk) 19:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) What if I put in File:Harvey Milk at 1978 Gay Freedom Day.jpg and File:GeorgeMoscone.jpg? They're GFDL and public domain, respectively. Do you think those would provide a suitable replacement for the Milk-White image that's there? Firestorm Talk 04:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I got permission from Mr. Nicoletta for another of his photos, so its going through OTRS now. Once I get it confirmed, i'll add it to the article. Firestorm Talk 22:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I really enjoyed reading this one. It's well written, and the different sections are knitted together so that the chronology flows logically. You don't always get that, especially without hard work. It is referenced well enough for my liking—not a {{ fact}} tag in sight, nor anyplace where I would wish to add one. There are no issues with image use, stability or neutrality. I took Moni3's informal review into account when reading the article, and she does a great job critiquing the coverage. I found it to be broad and detailed in almost every area, though I would love to see improvement in the areas she mentioned, especially the aftermath and legacy sections. I find these parts satisfactory, however, and not a reason in themselves to hold the article. So congrats on your first GA, Firestorm. Good luck at FAC ;) — Jake Wartenberg 19:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Whoops, just missed the peer review. Oh well. Overall, it's a very interesting article and I think it's pretty solid. Some suggestions, opinions, and thoughts:
-- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 15:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Keeping in mind the due respect he deserves, Harvey Milk was not the first openly gay person (male or female) elected in the United States when he was elected in 1977. That distinction falls upon Kathy Kozachenko of Ann Arbor, Michigan who was elected to city council while publicly out as a lesbian in April 1974. In November 1974, Elaine Noble was elected Massachusetts state representative while publicly out as a lesbian. Additionally, Allan Spear of Minnesota- having come out while in office in December 1974- was re-elected in 1976 and was the first openly gay man to do so. Also, Jim Yeadon became the fourth openly gay official to be elected when he retained his seat on the Madison, Wisconsin city council in April 1977.
Prior to Kozachenko, Noble, and Spear getting elected, Nancy Wechsler and Jerry DeGrieck were the first public officials to come out as gay while serving on the Ann Arbor city council in 1973 but were not publicly out of the closet when elected.
Some may want to decide on a brief yet important designation for Harvey Milk's place in history. In some articles, Harvey Milk is given the distinction as the "first openly gay non-incumbent elected in the United States." However, that seems wordy to some. Other articles have cited him as the "first openly gay man elected to high political office" or "high-profile office." This is subject to debate, on whether one deems a state senator (i.e. Spear) as a high/high-profile office or not. Nevertheless, this would still be more suitable than saying that Milk was the "first openly gay elected official," despite the significant impact of his time in office. Other articles decide to state how he was the first openly gay person elected in California.
References: Kathy Kozachenko | Elaine Noble | Allan Spear
Elaine Noble designation Allan Spear listing of 1976 re-election Wechsler and DeGrieck- Ann Arbor city council members Jim Yeadon Victory Fund explanation of firsts
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