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The line " Werner Heisenberg, the author of the Uncertainty principle who was also a teacher diagnosed with cancer[21]" is very strange - Heisenberg was a physicist, not a teacher, and while he died of cancer it was at age 74. Also the reference doesn't seem to have anything to do with this sentence. 92.225.111.11 ( talk) 05:46, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems like events from the new season are listed under "Season 5". I'm not all that knowledgeable about this show; perhaps someone could fix this, or perhaps I'm wrong. Joefromrandb ( talk) 00:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The currently airing episodes are part of the second half of Season 5. There is no Season 6.
"Walt" is not a nickname, it's an acceptable shortened version of his name by which his family and friends call him, everywhere else he is referred to as Walter or Heisenberg (no one ever calls him "Walt White"). As for Sr., there is not a single source that calls him that - not the series itself, no secondary sources either, which means calling him that on Wikipedia would be WP:SYN. Finally, a name that is puffed up for no good reason looks grotesque and unencyclopedic. Chunk5Darth ( talk) 06:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
The story has been circulating in the news lately, getting plenty of reliable coverage: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. There is also a story about a meth dealer who was found with a Walter White toy: [7] [8] [9]. Should we create a section called "Real life allusions"? I believe there is enough coverage to establish notability. Chunk5Darth ( talk) 10:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
The article says that Walter's death was on his 52nd birthday, Sept. 7, 2011. That date was also used on the faux tombstone planted in an Albuquerque cemetery as part of a fund raiser.
Disagree. This is fan fiction because the story line doesn't indicate that and surely doesn't correspond to that. We'll all note that immediately prior to being seen in the Denny's for breakfast, Walter was in New Hampshire for some extended period of time in that shack, bored to tears, and that the area was snowed in the entire time he was there. We know that the vacuum cleaner guy who delivered Walter to New Hampshire has made at least two previous runs because he already knew the routine about the $10,000 paid just for an hour's company playing cards, so Walter has been there a while with snow on the ground. He goes into town wearing a parka, and eventually makes his getaway from New Hampshire in a car covered with ice and snow.
Let's assume it takes him 30 hours (only stopping for gas) to traverse the country in the stolen car, as he tells the Denny's waitress. If it is Sept 7, 2011, that puts him in New Hampshire not later than Labor Day, Sept 5, though it was probably an earlier departure since he had to orchestrate his own finish and Marie notes sitings over some period of time.
Really? Ice and snow in New Hampshire on Labor Day, or in August?
It doesn't seem plausible given the story line that Walt was in hiding in Albuquerque since March when there would be snow on the ground in New Hampshire. He implied to the waitress he raced to get there, and it seems unlikely he was just hanging out indefinitely with a stolen car with out of state tags in the middle of the giant manhunt for the killer of two DEA agents, certainly not for months without his chemotherapy.
We see Walter in Denny's wearing a jacket getting his breakfast, which would be very odd for September because New Mexico is warm that time of year, in the 90's. And unless I don't remember it correctly, the final shots of Walter Jr. on the day of Walter Sr's death show him in a heavy jacket of some kind, which would be exceptional for a New Mexico summer day. Jesse is at about that same time leashed in the underground lab. He asks for the tarp to come off but is warned against it because of the cold. Unlikely for NM in September. If that scene was meant to take place in the approximate time of Walt's return, that would put it in the winter too.
So it seems like Walter's return to New Mexico would be long into the winter, maybe March 2012 or so.
I like fan fiction and I don't mind artistic license, but please try to keep the sense of the original. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.250.44 ( talk) 19:37, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
He might be referring to the birthdate on his fake ID...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.110.74.231 ( talk) 07:31, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I can't speak for @ Ironholds: who tried removing the section before I did, but I feel the "Criminal cases" section seen in this revision should not be included in the article. My reasoning is that WP:BLP1E applies, because these individuals are only known for one event -- their arrests and tenuous connections to a fictional character. So we shouldn't include them on this page. Calidum Talk To Me 01:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The content is trivial. The connection is purely coincidental and had no impact on the fictional character or the show. Knowing that there have been individuals whose lives are in some ways similar to the fictional character does not tell us anything about the fictional character, the topic of this article. With several editors (including me) saying this content does not belong here and one dissenting, a consensus seems to have been established. - SummerPhD ( talk) 04:16, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus over whether the subject is the long-term primary topic. Number 5 7 14:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Walter White (Breaking Bad) →
Walter White – Unquestionably the primary topic. None of the other Walter Whites are nearly as recognizable as the Walt from Breaking Bad. I honestly have never heard of any of the other entries on the page.
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 18:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Walter White (Breaking Bad) →
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It's distracting in terms of readability to see that Gretchen was Walter's "girlfriend" and Elliot was his "friend" but when the reader (me, in this case) notices that both characters have the same last name, the first response is to assume a familial (brother/sister?) relationship between the two. If it exists, it should be mentioned with the boyfriend/girlfriend relationship all at the same time. Note, I've watched and very much enjoyed the entire series and while up to this point I had some vague idea that Walter White formed a company with "someone", it wasn't until reading this Lede that I learned that it was formed with a "girlfriend" and a "friend" who may or may not be related. So one, good information but two remaining silent on their relationship is a reader's speed bump. 68.206.249.124 ( talk) 09:43, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Is Walter White really the protagonist? He seems more like the antagonist to everyone else on the show. ( Narkstraws ( talk) 02:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC))
Protagonist is the central character. This does not mean the character has to be a "good guy". The fact he is antagonistic, villanous, or just generally "bad", does not make him any less the protagonist.
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I agree the first line calling him a protagonist is a bit misleading, because of the word's positive connotations... What about main character? Walter White's turn to becoming a villain is complicating the usual protagonist/antagonist dynamic... I think the opening line could be reworked. -- 142.116.236.181 ( talk) 21:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Breaking Bad begins on Walt's 50th birthday, when he is diagnosed with Stage IIIA lung cancer. After this discovery, he resorts to manufacturing and selling methamphetamines with his former student, Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul), to ensure his family's financial security after his death.
That's not actually true. White began making meth to pay for the chemotherapy. While it's naturally possible that White (as with anyone else) might also be planning for his death, he was also doing what he needed to survive. I can't remember all the details, but I do recall his medical insurance was inadequate, and that he needed to pay for the chemotherapy with cash, hence drug dealing. The immediate need was cash for chemotherapy. The "financial security after his death" aspect was a secondary concern. 68.206.249.124 ( talk) 10:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Cut the second sentence, readers will understand that by this point of the article. Rephrase the first to: Walt becomes less sympathetic throughout the show, as Series creator Vince Gilligan wanted him to turn from "Mr. Chips into Scarface".Series creator Vince Gilligan has described his goal with Walter White as "turning Mr. Chips into Scarface" and deliberately made the character less sympathetic over the course of the series. Walt's evolution from a mild-mannered school teacher and family man into a dangerous drug lord and murderer is the show's central focus."
I'm quite unsure of the value of this section. It is, ostensibly, the prime example of bad popular culture sections; the SNL sketch is funny but is, perhaps, not encyclopedic. If you feel it's worthy then say and we'll decide from there.
@ Some Dude From North Carolina: I've issued my initial—and likely only—comments. I'll be doing a source review and spotchecks, per the GA criteria. It's a very good article, well done. DMT biscuit ( talk) 22:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I only noticed two problematic sources:
Below are two more reliable sources to use: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/superbowl-xlix-walter-white-returns-among-advert-extravaganza-10017104.html
https://time.com/5695599/breaking-bad-pizza-scene-evolution/
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Neither long-term significance nor usage examinations conclusively found a primary topic. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 16:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
– This seems unquestionably the primary topic, as the others don't seem as well known or widely read. A previous RM almost ended with consensus to move. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Which would be more appropriate for his last appearance? Felina seems to make more sense in my mind as not only is it his last appearance chronologially, El Camino isnt even really an episode of Breaking Bad. On another note the Breaking Bad fan wiki treats El Camino as its own thing also. Thoughts? FishandChipper 🐟 🍟 19:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
There is a second passing mention to Walt by Saul not mentioned here, whereas the previous passing mention is mentioned in this article. The second one should be added with the following information (or something similar);
"Walt is briefly mentioned in passing by Saul as he explains to Jeff and his friend Buddy that having cancer does not stop people from being assholes and that he "knows from experience"."
Tried to add this myself but was met with the edit filter for an unknown reason. 88.108.44.36 ( talk) 17:54, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Under "Affiliation," kindly include Sandia National Laboratories. It was briefly mentioned in Season 3 Episode 13 that Walter worked there while house hunting (see YouTube link for exact conversation at around the 52 second mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpfNmHbzT0Y) Kindly also add the link to the Sandia National Laboratories Wiki article as well. Thank you. Ryanlei.lei ( talk) 01:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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The line " Werner Heisenberg, the author of the Uncertainty principle who was also a teacher diagnosed with cancer[21]" is very strange - Heisenberg was a physicist, not a teacher, and while he died of cancer it was at age 74. Also the reference doesn't seem to have anything to do with this sentence. 92.225.111.11 ( talk) 05:46, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems like events from the new season are listed under "Season 5". I'm not all that knowledgeable about this show; perhaps someone could fix this, or perhaps I'm wrong. Joefromrandb ( talk) 00:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The currently airing episodes are part of the second half of Season 5. There is no Season 6.
"Walt" is not a nickname, it's an acceptable shortened version of his name by which his family and friends call him, everywhere else he is referred to as Walter or Heisenberg (no one ever calls him "Walt White"). As for Sr., there is not a single source that calls him that - not the series itself, no secondary sources either, which means calling him that on Wikipedia would be WP:SYN. Finally, a name that is puffed up for no good reason looks grotesque and unencyclopedic. Chunk5Darth ( talk) 06:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
The story has been circulating in the news lately, getting plenty of reliable coverage: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. There is also a story about a meth dealer who was found with a Walter White toy: [7] [8] [9]. Should we create a section called "Real life allusions"? I believe there is enough coverage to establish notability. Chunk5Darth ( talk) 10:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
The article says that Walter's death was on his 52nd birthday, Sept. 7, 2011. That date was also used on the faux tombstone planted in an Albuquerque cemetery as part of a fund raiser.
Disagree. This is fan fiction because the story line doesn't indicate that and surely doesn't correspond to that. We'll all note that immediately prior to being seen in the Denny's for breakfast, Walter was in New Hampshire for some extended period of time in that shack, bored to tears, and that the area was snowed in the entire time he was there. We know that the vacuum cleaner guy who delivered Walter to New Hampshire has made at least two previous runs because he already knew the routine about the $10,000 paid just for an hour's company playing cards, so Walter has been there a while with snow on the ground. He goes into town wearing a parka, and eventually makes his getaway from New Hampshire in a car covered with ice and snow.
Let's assume it takes him 30 hours (only stopping for gas) to traverse the country in the stolen car, as he tells the Denny's waitress. If it is Sept 7, 2011, that puts him in New Hampshire not later than Labor Day, Sept 5, though it was probably an earlier departure since he had to orchestrate his own finish and Marie notes sitings over some period of time.
Really? Ice and snow in New Hampshire on Labor Day, or in August?
It doesn't seem plausible given the story line that Walt was in hiding in Albuquerque since March when there would be snow on the ground in New Hampshire. He implied to the waitress he raced to get there, and it seems unlikely he was just hanging out indefinitely with a stolen car with out of state tags in the middle of the giant manhunt for the killer of two DEA agents, certainly not for months without his chemotherapy.
We see Walter in Denny's wearing a jacket getting his breakfast, which would be very odd for September because New Mexico is warm that time of year, in the 90's. And unless I don't remember it correctly, the final shots of Walter Jr. on the day of Walter Sr's death show him in a heavy jacket of some kind, which would be exceptional for a New Mexico summer day. Jesse is at about that same time leashed in the underground lab. He asks for the tarp to come off but is warned against it because of the cold. Unlikely for NM in September. If that scene was meant to take place in the approximate time of Walt's return, that would put it in the winter too.
So it seems like Walter's return to New Mexico would be long into the winter, maybe March 2012 or so.
I like fan fiction and I don't mind artistic license, but please try to keep the sense of the original. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.250.44 ( talk) 19:37, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
He might be referring to the birthdate on his fake ID...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.110.74.231 ( talk) 07:31, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I can't speak for @ Ironholds: who tried removing the section before I did, but I feel the "Criminal cases" section seen in this revision should not be included in the article. My reasoning is that WP:BLP1E applies, because these individuals are only known for one event -- their arrests and tenuous connections to a fictional character. So we shouldn't include them on this page. Calidum Talk To Me 01:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The content is trivial. The connection is purely coincidental and had no impact on the fictional character or the show. Knowing that there have been individuals whose lives are in some ways similar to the fictional character does not tell us anything about the fictional character, the topic of this article. With several editors (including me) saying this content does not belong here and one dissenting, a consensus seems to have been established. - SummerPhD ( talk) 04:16, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus over whether the subject is the long-term primary topic. Number 5 7 14:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Walter White (Breaking Bad) →
Walter White – Unquestionably the primary topic. None of the other Walter Whites are nearly as recognizable as the Walt from Breaking Bad. I honestly have never heard of any of the other entries on the page.
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04:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 18:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Walter White (Breaking Bad) →
Walter White (character) – The only fictional character with this name. The rest, listed at the Walter White dab page, are real people. --
Kailash29792
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17:55, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
It's distracting in terms of readability to see that Gretchen was Walter's "girlfriend" and Elliot was his "friend" but when the reader (me, in this case) notices that both characters have the same last name, the first response is to assume a familial (brother/sister?) relationship between the two. If it exists, it should be mentioned with the boyfriend/girlfriend relationship all at the same time. Note, I've watched and very much enjoyed the entire series and while up to this point I had some vague idea that Walter White formed a company with "someone", it wasn't until reading this Lede that I learned that it was formed with a "girlfriend" and a "friend" who may or may not be related. So one, good information but two remaining silent on their relationship is a reader's speed bump. 68.206.249.124 ( talk) 09:43, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Is Walter White really the protagonist? He seems more like the antagonist to everyone else on the show. ( Narkstraws ( talk) 02:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC))
Protagonist is the central character. This does not mean the character has to be a "good guy". The fact he is antagonistic, villanous, or just generally "bad", does not make him any less the protagonist.
Believe in Colbert. — Preceding
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I agree the first line calling him a protagonist is a bit misleading, because of the word's positive connotations... What about main character? Walter White's turn to becoming a villain is complicating the usual protagonist/antagonist dynamic... I think the opening line could be reworked. -- 142.116.236.181 ( talk) 21:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Breaking Bad begins on Walt's 50th birthday, when he is diagnosed with Stage IIIA lung cancer. After this discovery, he resorts to manufacturing and selling methamphetamines with his former student, Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul), to ensure his family's financial security after his death.
That's not actually true. White began making meth to pay for the chemotherapy. While it's naturally possible that White (as with anyone else) might also be planning for his death, he was also doing what he needed to survive. I can't remember all the details, but I do recall his medical insurance was inadequate, and that he needed to pay for the chemotherapy with cash, hence drug dealing. The immediate need was cash for chemotherapy. The "financial security after his death" aspect was a secondary concern. 68.206.249.124 ( talk) 10:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Cut the second sentence, readers will understand that by this point of the article. Rephrase the first to: Walt becomes less sympathetic throughout the show, as Series creator Vince Gilligan wanted him to turn from "Mr. Chips into Scarface".Series creator Vince Gilligan has described his goal with Walter White as "turning Mr. Chips into Scarface" and deliberately made the character less sympathetic over the course of the series. Walt's evolution from a mild-mannered school teacher and family man into a dangerous drug lord and murderer is the show's central focus."
I'm quite unsure of the value of this section. It is, ostensibly, the prime example of bad popular culture sections; the SNL sketch is funny but is, perhaps, not encyclopedic. If you feel it's worthy then say and we'll decide from there.
@ Some Dude From North Carolina: I've issued my initial—and likely only—comments. I'll be doing a source review and spotchecks, per the GA criteria. It's a very good article, well done. DMT biscuit ( talk) 22:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I only noticed two problematic sources:
Below are two more reliable sources to use: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/superbowl-xlix-walter-white-returns-among-advert-extravaganza-10017104.html
https://time.com/5695599/breaking-bad-pizza-scene-evolution/
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Neither long-term significance nor usage examinations conclusively found a primary topic. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 16:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
– This seems unquestionably the primary topic, as the others don't seem as well known or widely read. A previous RM almost ended with consensus to move. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Which would be more appropriate for his last appearance? Felina seems to make more sense in my mind as not only is it his last appearance chronologially, El Camino isnt even really an episode of Breaking Bad. On another note the Breaking Bad fan wiki treats El Camino as its own thing also. Thoughts? FishandChipper 🐟 🍟 19:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
There is a second passing mention to Walt by Saul not mentioned here, whereas the previous passing mention is mentioned in this article. The second one should be added with the following information (or something similar);
"Walt is briefly mentioned in passing by Saul as he explains to Jeff and his friend Buddy that having cancer does not stop people from being assholes and that he "knows from experience"."
Tried to add this myself but was met with the edit filter for an unknown reason. 88.108.44.36 ( talk) 17:54, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: Most likely a quote from the show. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see
"using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or
"donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)
For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, provided it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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Under "Affiliation," kindly include Sandia National Laboratories. It was briefly mentioned in Season 3 Episode 13 that Walter worked there while house hunting (see YouTube link for exact conversation at around the 52 second mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpfNmHbzT0Y) Kindly also add the link to the Sandia National Laboratories Wiki article as well. Thank you. Ryanlei.lei ( talk) 01:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)