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ThirteenSenses ( talk) 11:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
This article states that the Wales Green Party is the "only local party with autonomous status within the GPEW". What is the GPEW? I can find no mention in the artcle to the GPEW and no link on Wikipedia. Can someone please put tidy this up??? Rhyddfrydol 21:22 8th September 2005 (UTC)
This page should not be speedily deleted because... The Welsh Greens have a semi-autonomous status and have their own leadership. Given that other Welsh parties have their own pages (e.g. Welsh Conservative Party, Welsh Labour Party), and that the Wales has its own devolved elections, the Welsh Greens article should remain. Neither the Welsh Conservatives or Welsh Labour are separate parties registered with the Electoral Commission, they are - like the Welsh Greens - semi-autonomous parts of their respective parties who have their own leaders and staff, while still being a part of the UK party. The article could certainly be improved, but it shouldn't be deleted. -- Frinton100 ( talk) 11:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Should the article be deleted or improved? If the latter, how do we go about it? Frinton100 ( talk) 08:00, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
I have now requested a deletion review here; Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 November 2 Jimmy3d0 ( talk) 20:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Should we include Welsh independence in the infobox? Helper201 ( talk) 08:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
the party's specifically worded conditional stance [...] the motion in full) and interpreting what that means. The remedy against WP:SYNTH is to look at what secondary sources say. We discussed secondary source reporting at Talk:Green_Party_of_England_and_Wales#Welsh_independence and you give some examples above ("Wales Green Party vote to back Welsh independence at conference", "England and Wales Green Party backs Welsh independence referendum"). Secondary sources say the Welsh Green Party supports Welsh independence. Bondegezou ( talk) 17:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
If anything (in my opinion) the Wales Green Party's stance on Welsh Independence should be covered briefly in the "Policies" section of the article. There's no reason for it to appear in the Infobox, unless we're going to include the party's stance there on everything else too. I suspect someone is trying to give prominence to this information because of the upcoming local elections, where the Green Party is forming an alliance with Plaid Cymru. Sionk ( talk) 22:29, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment The epistemological rules of Wikipedia are very clear. We follow what reliable, WP:SECONDARY sources say. So, what do they say?
It is clear that the Wales Green Party supports independence. The subtleties of their position can be explained in the Policies subsection, but in infobox terms, they're clearly on the pro-independence side of things. Is this position significant enough to warrant inclusion in the infobox? It is widely reported and discussed when talking about the Wales Green Party, so yes. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Does anyone know who the first Green councillors were in Wales? Was it Marcus Hughes and Brian Stringer in 1991, or earlier? I have contacted RCT Library Service and the info they hold suggests the three elected in 1974 were independents, and that the cited Plymouth University source is incorrect. 188.39.53.201 ( talk) 17:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
I am aware, I am re-raising the discussion above, but wanted to restart it separately. For the upcoming election, considering in their own manifesto the "Wales Green Party" states at the top of the second page and in a section within:
Wales Green Party is committed to campaigning for an independent Wales with its own democratic constitution and independent Senedd as vital for a green future.
Wales Green Party campaigns for an independent Wales with its own democratic constitution and independent Senedd, as being vital for a green future in Wales.
I think they have committed to campaign for independence overall, rather than just in the event of a referendum. So I'd argue that, that is enough to warrant a mention in the infobox. This specifically relates to the Wales Green Party. The Green Party of England and Wales has a short belief in self-determination of the devolved nations, so not as prominent for the wider party for a mention in their infobox. Dank Jae 17:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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Have updated to reflect recent changes in leadership
ThirteenSenses ( talk) 11:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
This article states that the Wales Green Party is the "only local party with autonomous status within the GPEW". What is the GPEW? I can find no mention in the artcle to the GPEW and no link on Wikipedia. Can someone please put tidy this up??? Rhyddfrydol 21:22 8th September 2005 (UTC)
This page should not be speedily deleted because... The Welsh Greens have a semi-autonomous status and have their own leadership. Given that other Welsh parties have their own pages (e.g. Welsh Conservative Party, Welsh Labour Party), and that the Wales has its own devolved elections, the Welsh Greens article should remain. Neither the Welsh Conservatives or Welsh Labour are separate parties registered with the Electoral Commission, they are - like the Welsh Greens - semi-autonomous parts of their respective parties who have their own leaders and staff, while still being a part of the UK party. The article could certainly be improved, but it shouldn't be deleted. -- Frinton100 ( talk) 11:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Should the article be deleted or improved? If the latter, how do we go about it? Frinton100 ( talk) 08:00, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
I have now requested a deletion review here; Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 November 2 Jimmy3d0 ( talk) 20:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Should we include Welsh independence in the infobox? Helper201 ( talk) 08:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
the party's specifically worded conditional stance [...] the motion in full) and interpreting what that means. The remedy against WP:SYNTH is to look at what secondary sources say. We discussed secondary source reporting at Talk:Green_Party_of_England_and_Wales#Welsh_independence and you give some examples above ("Wales Green Party vote to back Welsh independence at conference", "England and Wales Green Party backs Welsh independence referendum"). Secondary sources say the Welsh Green Party supports Welsh independence. Bondegezou ( talk) 17:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
If anything (in my opinion) the Wales Green Party's stance on Welsh Independence should be covered briefly in the "Policies" section of the article. There's no reason for it to appear in the Infobox, unless we're going to include the party's stance there on everything else too. I suspect someone is trying to give prominence to this information because of the upcoming local elections, where the Green Party is forming an alliance with Plaid Cymru. Sionk ( talk) 22:29, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment The epistemological rules of Wikipedia are very clear. We follow what reliable, WP:SECONDARY sources say. So, what do they say?
It is clear that the Wales Green Party supports independence. The subtleties of their position can be explained in the Policies subsection, but in infobox terms, they're clearly on the pro-independence side of things. Is this position significant enough to warrant inclusion in the infobox? It is widely reported and discussed when talking about the Wales Green Party, so yes. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Does anyone know who the first Green councillors were in Wales? Was it Marcus Hughes and Brian Stringer in 1991, or earlier? I have contacted RCT Library Service and the info they hold suggests the three elected in 1974 were independents, and that the cited Plymouth University source is incorrect. 188.39.53.201 ( talk) 17:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
I am aware, I am re-raising the discussion above, but wanted to restart it separately. For the upcoming election, considering in their own manifesto the "Wales Green Party" states at the top of the second page and in a section within:
Wales Green Party is committed to campaigning for an independent Wales with its own democratic constitution and independent Senedd as vital for a green future.
Wales Green Party campaigns for an independent Wales with its own democratic constitution and independent Senedd, as being vital for a green future in Wales.
I think they have committed to campaign for independence overall, rather than just in the event of a referendum. So I'd argue that, that is enough to warrant a mention in the infobox. This specifically relates to the Wales Green Party. The Green Party of England and Wales has a short belief in self-determination of the devolved nations, so not as prominent for the wider party for a mention in their infobox. Dank Jae 17:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)