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Like many similar topics, this article IMHO suffers from Western/Englih bias. I think we do a very good job summarizing English sources, which however mostly focus on UK/US, with a small not towards Western Europe (i.e. the traditional Western Canon bias). We tried to find some coverage from other parts of the world, and we do mention one Polish, maybe two Russian and two Japanese (anime) works. But I am reasonably sure there is more from other European countries, Western and Eastern, not too mention other parts of the world (not just Japan, there is Chinese, African, Korean sf, etc.). Alas, if sources exist for such topics, they are not in English. I'll note I looked into the Polish sources for Polish coverage of this, and there's next to nothing outside what I wrote about Lem. If there is any more coverage of his work, or that of other writers, I couldn't find it, so if there was some Polish sf with Venusian theme, it clearly wasn't impactful even in Poland. Again, that may not be true for some other countries, but if there was some impactful, let's say, Korean sf about Venus, it didn't make a splash in English yet. Oh well. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus ( talk) and TompaDompa ( talk). Nominated by Piotrus ( talk) at 10:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: There's quite a lot going on in the 1939 image but I think it's clear enough to use at 100px. (If admins disagree, maybe the 1950 image could be used instead?) There's documentation on the 1939 image's Wikicommons page that I believe is good evidence that the picture is public domain. It would be good to see some ALT text for images per MOS:ALT - or maybe "alt=refer to caption" for the third and fourth images. I reviewed the three matches above 1% on Earwig's Copyvio Detector - no concerns. Both proposed hooks are fine - I prefer ALT1. Approving as I don't think the lack of text is a blocker for DYK. Thanks to editors who helped get this to GA. 10:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BennyOnTheLoose ( talk • contribs)
While working on the bio of Polish early sf writer Władysław Umiński, I found a reliable source ( on GBooks but in Polish) mentioning that his 1948 novel Zaziemskie światy is set on Venus. The text states that it mixes sf and occult elements. Pl wiki has a well-referenced article on the novel (I'll try to translate it in the foreseeable future), which states "The novel describes the first interplanetary flight in history - to Venus, where he encounters a developed civilization of people who settled there after leaving Atlantis". I assume we can find a place to mention the book? @ TompaDompa Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:26, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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Like many similar topics, this article IMHO suffers from Western/Englih bias. I think we do a very good job summarizing English sources, which however mostly focus on UK/US, with a small not towards Western Europe (i.e. the traditional Western Canon bias). We tried to find some coverage from other parts of the world, and we do mention one Polish, maybe two Russian and two Japanese (anime) works. But I am reasonably sure there is more from other European countries, Western and Eastern, not too mention other parts of the world (not just Japan, there is Chinese, African, Korean sf, etc.). Alas, if sources exist for such topics, they are not in English. I'll note I looked into the Polish sources for Polish coverage of this, and there's next to nothing outside what I wrote about Lem. If there is any more coverage of his work, or that of other writers, I couldn't find it, so if there was some Polish sf with Venusian theme, it clearly wasn't impactful even in Poland. Again, that may not be true for some other countries, but if there was some impactful, let's say, Korean sf about Venus, it didn't make a splash in English yet. Oh well. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Kavyansh.Singh (
talk)
12:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus ( talk) and TompaDompa ( talk). Nominated by Piotrus ( talk) at 10:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC).
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: There's quite a lot going on in the 1939 image but I think it's clear enough to use at 100px. (If admins disagree, maybe the 1950 image could be used instead?) There's documentation on the 1939 image's Wikicommons page that I believe is good evidence that the picture is public domain. It would be good to see some ALT text for images per MOS:ALT - or maybe "alt=refer to caption" for the third and fourth images. I reviewed the three matches above 1% on Earwig's Copyvio Detector - no concerns. Both proposed hooks are fine - I prefer ALT1. Approving as I don't think the lack of text is a blocker for DYK. Thanks to editors who helped get this to GA. 10:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BennyOnTheLoose ( talk • contribs)
While working on the bio of Polish early sf writer Władysław Umiński, I found a reliable source ( on GBooks but in Polish) mentioning that his 1948 novel Zaziemskie światy is set on Venus. The text states that it mixes sf and occult elements. Pl wiki has a well-referenced article on the novel (I'll try to translate it in the foreseeable future), which states "The novel describes the first interplanetary flight in history - to Venus, where he encounters a developed civilization of people who settled there after leaving Atlantis". I assume we can find a place to mention the book? @ TompaDompa Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:26, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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