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I would recommend qualifying and changing the scentence snippet "is believed to be the oldest society promoting vegetarianism in the world"
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"is believed to be the oldest society promoting vegetarianism among a prodominently non-vegetarian society in the modern world".
-- Sudarshanhs 08:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
The article currently asserts that "The term "vegetarian" was coined on 30 September 1847 at the first meeting of The Vegetarian Society." The OED lists the earliest usage of the word as 1839.-- Larrybob 16:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Removed incorrect reference to the publication date of 'The Vegetarian' magazine (article said 1848, actually it was 1888). Also, Gandhi belonged to the LONDON Vegetarian Society, which was a separate organization. It merged with the society described here in 1969, but until I (or anyone) add LVS to the history it would be misleading to mention Gandhi. DaveinMPLS ( talk) 05:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The proper name for the organization featured in this Wikipedia article is The Vegetarian Society. Since it is a UK organization, I suggest that the article be renamed 'The Vegetarian Society (UK)' so that those looking for this organization will immediately recognize it as 'The Vegetarian Society' in London, the UK. MaynardClark ( talk) 02:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Good idea. The split between the original Vegetarian Society based in Manchester and its London offshoot took place well over a century ago. They did reunite in any case towards the end of the 19th century. "(UK)" sounds good. I'm sure other countries have or had them. Bmcln1 ( talk) 20:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Bmcln1: Do you have a source that mentions that May Yates was secretary of the London Vegetarian Society? Her bread reform league was merged into the London Vegetarian Society but it is difficult to find a reliable source that says she was the secretary of the LVS. Yates is mentioned in a footnote in Colin Spencer's book but there is no mention that she was secretary of the LVS so it is original research to include it.
In vegetarian literature, Mary Corkling is referred to as "May Yates". I don't doubt she was the organizing secretary because that is mentioned in their journal, but it's difficult to find a reliable neutral source that mentions this. Psychologist Guy ( talk) 18:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I lit on the page only a few days ago. My problems with it were linguistic. I also added a few links, but I quite agree, the next move should be to get some more refs sorted out. Bmcln1 ( talk) 20:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Why don't we change this article's name to 'Vegetarian Society of the United Kingdom' (because merely calling it one of its two names ('Vegetarian Society' rather than 'VSUK') betrays a national bias which Wikipedians in other nations are taught not to nurture. MaynardClark ( talk) 03:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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I would recommend qualifying and changing the scentence snippet "is believed to be the oldest society promoting vegetarianism in the world"
to
"is believed to be the oldest society promoting vegetarianism among a prodominently non-vegetarian society in the modern world".
-- Sudarshanhs 08:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
The article currently asserts that "The term "vegetarian" was coined on 30 September 1847 at the first meeting of The Vegetarian Society." The OED lists the earliest usage of the word as 1839.-- Larrybob 16:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Removed incorrect reference to the publication date of 'The Vegetarian' magazine (article said 1848, actually it was 1888). Also, Gandhi belonged to the LONDON Vegetarian Society, which was a separate organization. It merged with the society described here in 1969, but until I (or anyone) add LVS to the history it would be misleading to mention Gandhi. DaveinMPLS ( talk) 05:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The proper name for the organization featured in this Wikipedia article is The Vegetarian Society. Since it is a UK organization, I suggest that the article be renamed 'The Vegetarian Society (UK)' so that those looking for this organization will immediately recognize it as 'The Vegetarian Society' in London, the UK. MaynardClark ( talk) 02:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Good idea. The split between the original Vegetarian Society based in Manchester and its London offshoot took place well over a century ago. They did reunite in any case towards the end of the 19th century. "(UK)" sounds good. I'm sure other countries have or had them. Bmcln1 ( talk) 20:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Bmcln1: Do you have a source that mentions that May Yates was secretary of the London Vegetarian Society? Her bread reform league was merged into the London Vegetarian Society but it is difficult to find a reliable source that says she was the secretary of the LVS. Yates is mentioned in a footnote in Colin Spencer's book but there is no mention that she was secretary of the LVS so it is original research to include it.
In vegetarian literature, Mary Corkling is referred to as "May Yates". I don't doubt she was the organizing secretary because that is mentioned in their journal, but it's difficult to find a reliable neutral source that mentions this. Psychologist Guy ( talk) 18:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I lit on the page only a few days ago. My problems with it were linguistic. I also added a few links, but I quite agree, the next move should be to get some more refs sorted out. Bmcln1 ( talk) 20:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Why don't we change this article's name to 'Vegetarian Society of the United Kingdom' (because merely calling it one of its two names ('Vegetarian Society' rather than 'VSUK') betrays a national bias which Wikipedians in other nations are taught not to nurture. MaynardClark ( talk) 03:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)