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I think the PC Gamer article is a very adequate source, better than the Rock Paper Shotgun article. Eik Corell ( talk) 20:55, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Community patches have been released as add-ons to the game, in order to fix errors and bugs that were not corrected by Troika due to the scope of the game and the subsequent closing of the developer, as well as to restore unreleased additional content found in the game files. [1] [2] [3]. (Check page source).
Eik Corell ( talk) 21:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Wow, much ado! I've read through this discussion and feel like I'm missing something. I hope I'm not out of line, but it seems like this page is suffering from a bit of over-policing. There are obviously two after-market patches for the game. What is the harm in having a reference to both? Why is the mentality here that there can only be reference to one? Anyone, ie me, looking at Wikipedia about the game are going to want to know about both. I've checked the citations and clearly, without a doubt, both exist. Isn't that the whole point of the references? The pillars of Wikipedia are "verifiability" and "no original work". No one has posted anything original in the article. The references are only to the existence of something. As for "verifiability", policy requires that anything challenged or likely to be challenged, including all quotations, be attributed to a reliable source. I don't think anyone can honestly say the existence of either patch is being challenged by anyone. Furthermore, the citations seem more than adequate to "verify" their existence. Exactly what end is being served by nitpicking the level of quality of citations? It just seems really over the top to me, especially since I can see absolutely no damage at all in having both citations up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GameOnYou ( talk • contribs) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd prefer to see the RPS link rather than the patches-scrolls one, but that works. Thanks! Fin © ™ 10:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I've unprotected the page. Please don't edit war over something as trivial as this in future, folks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 15:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
And there we go, I've introduced the changes that were agreed upon above. That's one patch out of the way, so to speak. Eik Corell ( talk) 17:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
I really don't see the harm of a quick mention of the true patch, given that its existence is what helped push Wesp to release a basic version in the first place, and some of the fixes were incorporated into his work. I know there's bias on both sides, and a huge amount of bad blood, but I think there should be at least a passing reference to it. I can try to dig up sources, but I know it was covered, mostly by fan websites. I don't want to edit-war this, so can we just at least leave the passing reference in the article? Coolgamer ( talk) 19:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Added some templates to the soundtrack section. In particular I'm concerned about the statements on the "full soundtrack". This is available in mp3 format just by navigating to the music subdirectory of the game's install. I assume that this is what appeared on BitTorrent trackers. The word 'leaked' makes it sound like it appeared on BitTorrent trackers before the game's release, hence the 'when?' template. If that's not true, I'd say that it's not notable that the full soundtrack appeared on BitTorrent trackers, any more than it's notable that anything else appears on BitTorrent. I'm not 100% sure it would be notable even if it is true, but a reference to clear this up would be helpful: if there is no reference, it is pretty much by definition not notable. -- Thegooseking ( talk) 09:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
FYI I've removed the Massive Attack comment again. I went around with an editor a couple of years ago on this. It's speculative, not documented. That a few users believe it's a dub of Massive Attack doesn't make it so, and, IMHO, doesn't justify inclusion in the article. - FeralDruid ( talk) 02:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Maybe, and i repeat maybe, this article should list the songs Rik Schaffer composed for the game, even the leftovers appeared on the Wesp Patch. Come on, you can't denying their existence! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.14.25 ( talk) 14:07, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Seems like the 80s or early 90s not 21st century. Look at the computers! 2600:1012:B147:3F8A:DD02:B0DA:738D:2DF0 ( talk) 05:04, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I have read somewhere that Jeanette's design appearently served as an inspiration for DC character Harley Quinn's modern design. Is there any truth to this? Are there any official reliable sources confirming this or anything? Thanks in advance for the reply. 85.24.174.14 ( talk) 20:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
In the description of the game's endings, it looks like one ending is exclusive to the Tremere clan, which is not entirely true. This ending can also be reached by other clans, although the conditions for this are quite specific. Essentially one has to gain Maximilian Strauss' trust, which is obviously much easier for a Tremere. In order to do so one has to visit him quite early, fulfill his part of the plaguebearer quest (and choose the correct reward from him...), learn about gargoyles, then later ask Strauss about the one in Hollywood and do his gargoyle quest. Also one must always be polite to Strauss and neither join the Anarchs nor betray any of Strauss' secrets to anybody else. Easy to miss one of these conditions. -- 141.113.242.115 ( talk) 08:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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I think the PC Gamer article is a very adequate source, better than the Rock Paper Shotgun article. Eik Corell ( talk) 20:55, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Community patches have been released as add-ons to the game, in order to fix errors and bugs that were not corrected by Troika due to the scope of the game and the subsequent closing of the developer, as well as to restore unreleased additional content found in the game files. [1] [2] [3]. (Check page source).
Eik Corell ( talk) 21:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Wow, much ado! I've read through this discussion and feel like I'm missing something. I hope I'm not out of line, but it seems like this page is suffering from a bit of over-policing. There are obviously two after-market patches for the game. What is the harm in having a reference to both? Why is the mentality here that there can only be reference to one? Anyone, ie me, looking at Wikipedia about the game are going to want to know about both. I've checked the citations and clearly, without a doubt, both exist. Isn't that the whole point of the references? The pillars of Wikipedia are "verifiability" and "no original work". No one has posted anything original in the article. The references are only to the existence of something. As for "verifiability", policy requires that anything challenged or likely to be challenged, including all quotations, be attributed to a reliable source. I don't think anyone can honestly say the existence of either patch is being challenged by anyone. Furthermore, the citations seem more than adequate to "verify" their existence. Exactly what end is being served by nitpicking the level of quality of citations? It just seems really over the top to me, especially since I can see absolutely no damage at all in having both citations up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GameOnYou ( talk • contribs) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd prefer to see the RPS link rather than the patches-scrolls one, but that works. Thanks! Fin © ™ 10:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I've unprotected the page. Please don't edit war over something as trivial as this in future, folks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 15:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
And there we go, I've introduced the changes that were agreed upon above. That's one patch out of the way, so to speak. Eik Corell ( talk) 17:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
I really don't see the harm of a quick mention of the true patch, given that its existence is what helped push Wesp to release a basic version in the first place, and some of the fixes were incorporated into his work. I know there's bias on both sides, and a huge amount of bad blood, but I think there should be at least a passing reference to it. I can try to dig up sources, but I know it was covered, mostly by fan websites. I don't want to edit-war this, so can we just at least leave the passing reference in the article? Coolgamer ( talk) 19:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Added some templates to the soundtrack section. In particular I'm concerned about the statements on the "full soundtrack". This is available in mp3 format just by navigating to the music subdirectory of the game's install. I assume that this is what appeared on BitTorrent trackers. The word 'leaked' makes it sound like it appeared on BitTorrent trackers before the game's release, hence the 'when?' template. If that's not true, I'd say that it's not notable that the full soundtrack appeared on BitTorrent trackers, any more than it's notable that anything else appears on BitTorrent. I'm not 100% sure it would be notable even if it is true, but a reference to clear this up would be helpful: if there is no reference, it is pretty much by definition not notable. -- Thegooseking ( talk) 09:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
FYI I've removed the Massive Attack comment again. I went around with an editor a couple of years ago on this. It's speculative, not documented. That a few users believe it's a dub of Massive Attack doesn't make it so, and, IMHO, doesn't justify inclusion in the article. - FeralDruid ( talk) 02:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Maybe, and i repeat maybe, this article should list the songs Rik Schaffer composed for the game, even the leftovers appeared on the Wesp Patch. Come on, you can't denying their existence! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.14.25 ( talk) 14:07, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Seems like the 80s or early 90s not 21st century. Look at the computers! 2600:1012:B147:3F8A:DD02:B0DA:738D:2DF0 ( talk) 05:04, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I have read somewhere that Jeanette's design appearently served as an inspiration for DC character Harley Quinn's modern design. Is there any truth to this? Are there any official reliable sources confirming this or anything? Thanks in advance for the reply. 85.24.174.14 ( talk) 20:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
In the description of the game's endings, it looks like one ending is exclusive to the Tremere clan, which is not entirely true. This ending can also be reached by other clans, although the conditions for this are quite specific. Essentially one has to gain Maximilian Strauss' trust, which is obviously much easier for a Tremere. In order to do so one has to visit him quite early, fulfill his part of the plaguebearer quest (and choose the correct reward from him...), learn about gargoyles, then later ask Strauss about the one in Hollywood and do his gargoyle quest. Also one must always be polite to Strauss and neither join the Anarchs nor betray any of Strauss' secrets to anybody else. Easy to miss one of these conditions. -- 141.113.242.115 ( talk) 08:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)