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The result was: rejected by
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13:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Created by Cassie Schebel ( talk). Self-nominated at 14:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC).
In the tenth paragraph where it says "If the player kills no monsters before completing a "Neutral" ending" where it's talking about how to get a true pacifist route, you can only get a true pacifist route AFTER doing a Neutral ending. EA ( talk) 18:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone also add the secret area by waterfall where the door will unlock after completing a true pacifist route and avoiding ALL the special thanks gives you the message "somewhere you heard a door open" or something like that. If you want to know its the area where sans asks you if you are following him. EA ( talk) 18:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
ThomasO1989 the topics of see also sections don't need to match that of the article for which they are being placed. They need to be connected or related. This game demonstrates a relationship with the topic of nonviolence. Helper201 ( talk) 17:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I've got to heavily disagree with the FAQ and present my case as to why. I'm assuming spoilers like that are permitted in the lead, but obviously it should be sidestepped. People looking up Undertale on Google, not even clicking on the article, are going to be immediately spoiled. I understand this might not be a great point, which leads me into my main argument: Frisk's name should not be included in the lead because it does not accurately reflect the experience most players will have with the game.
The game intentionally misleads you into believing that you and Frisk share the same name: 201X and a similar looking child in the intro sequence, the vague "name the fallen human" phrasing, and the name you inputed being featured in the battle screen and menu. If a player is going in blind, they will most likely assume that the name they inputted is Frisk's name, and they will likely believe this for an overwhelming majority of the game. This is an intentional design choice. Mentioning Frisk's name in the lead is unfaithful to the premise of the game. Being ambiguous about Frisk's name by referring to them as a "child" is more faithful as it reflects the intentional ambiguity presented by the game. Including Frisk's name in the lead only serves to misrepresent the game's premise; just because it's more specific doesn't make it more informative. LBWP ( talk) 06:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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{{#ifeq:Talk|Talk|
The result was: rejected by
Szmenderowiecki (
talk)
13:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Created by Cassie Schebel ( talk). Self-nominated at 14:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC).
In the tenth paragraph where it says "If the player kills no monsters before completing a "Neutral" ending" where it's talking about how to get a true pacifist route, you can only get a true pacifist route AFTER doing a Neutral ending. EA ( talk) 18:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone also add the secret area by waterfall where the door will unlock after completing a true pacifist route and avoiding ALL the special thanks gives you the message "somewhere you heard a door open" or something like that. If you want to know its the area where sans asks you if you are following him. EA ( talk) 18:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
ThomasO1989 the topics of see also sections don't need to match that of the article for which they are being placed. They need to be connected or related. This game demonstrates a relationship with the topic of nonviolence. Helper201 ( talk) 17:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I've got to heavily disagree with the FAQ and present my case as to why. I'm assuming spoilers like that are permitted in the lead, but obviously it should be sidestepped. People looking up Undertale on Google, not even clicking on the article, are going to be immediately spoiled. I understand this might not be a great point, which leads me into my main argument: Frisk's name should not be included in the lead because it does not accurately reflect the experience most players will have with the game.
The game intentionally misleads you into believing that you and Frisk share the same name: 201X and a similar looking child in the intro sequence, the vague "name the fallen human" phrasing, and the name you inputed being featured in the battle screen and menu. If a player is going in blind, they will most likely assume that the name they inputted is Frisk's name, and they will likely believe this for an overwhelming majority of the game. This is an intentional design choice. Mentioning Frisk's name in the lead is unfaithful to the premise of the game. Being ambiguous about Frisk's name by referring to them as a "child" is more faithful as it reflects the intentional ambiguity presented by the game. Including Frisk's name in the lead only serves to misrepresent the game's premise; just because it's more specific doesn't make it more informative. LBWP ( talk) 06:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)