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Can anyone explain why there's some stuff in References that doesn't belong? Thomas Yen ( talk) 02:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
why the section of combat history is too short,please expand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.226.190.218 ( talk) 08:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:29, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Type 99 Light Machine Gun →
Type 99 light machine gun – Simply per
WP:CAPS. Common nouns should not be capitalised.
SSDGFCTCT9 (
talk)
20:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
"larger and more powerful 7.7 mm cartridge which also had no rim, which improved cartridge handling"
So... is that "also had no rim" as in "and in addition, it had no rim" or "also had no rim" as in "like the 6.5 it was a rimless design"?
I ask, because the second part of that statement suggests that they improved cartridge handling by moving to a rimless cartridge. However, when I look at pictures of the 6.5, it appears to also be rimless. Both of these statements are confusing and require some clarity.
Pinging @ Meeepmep: as one of the major authors. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 13:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
In the section of Specifications, rate of fire is 800 rounds per minute. However, according to multiple reliable Japanese-side references, rate of fire was about 500-550 rpm.
However, I'm ignorant about Wikipedia's rule and I don't know how to add reference. Would you please tell me this is "original research" or not?
Reference 1
According to the book, required rate of fire was 500 rpm.
「設計の主要条件は、故障の絶無を期す。重量は十一キロいないとし、できるだけ軽量化する。発射速度は一分間概ね五〇〇発を標準とする。」(狭山 2000, p.334)
translation: "The main requirement of the design is to ensure that no failure will occur. The weight shall not exceed 11 kilograms and shall be as light as possible. The standard rate of fire shall be approximately 500 rounds per minute." (Sayama 2000, p.334)
Also, according to appendix table of specification of machine guns, rate of fire of Type 99 light machine gun was 550 rpm. (Sayama, p.441)
佐山二郎(2000)「小銃 拳銃 機関銃入門」光人社, p334, 441
Sayama Jiro, 2000, "Primer of Rifle, Pistol and Machine Gun" Kojin-sha, p.334, 441
ISBN4-7698-2284-7
Reference 2
According to this document, rate of fire of Type 99 light machine gun was 550 rpm.
「8.兵器諸元表/主要兵器諸元表」JACAR(アジア歴史資料センター)Ref.C13120846500、研究機関に関する資料(含技術資料) 昭和20.9.20(防衛省防衛研究所)
"8. Specification table of weapons / specification table of main weapons", JACAR (Japan Center for Asian Historical Records) Ref.C13120846500, References of research institutes (including technical documents), September 20, 1945 (National Institute for Defense Studies, Ministry of Defense Japan)
https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/das/image/C13120846500 (pdf page 3)
Image of document with translation notes: https://i.imgur.com/jdOOMED.png
Reference 3
According to this document, rate of fire of Type 99 light machine gun was 550 rpm.
Note, 九九式軽機銃 is naval name of Type 99 light machine gun. In Japanese army, "machine gun" was called 機関銃 but in Japanese navy it was called 機銃 so name was different.
海軍省館山海軍砲術学校研究部, 「陸戦参考-第1号・陸戦兵器要目表」p.50
Tateyama Naval Artillery School, Ministry of Navy, ”Land Combat Reference - No. 1, Land Combat Weapon List",
https://www.digital.archives.go.jp/das/image/F0000000000000218251 (pdf page 30)
Image of document with translation notes: https://i.imgur.com/Fd7dUT9.png Aizenns ( talk) 14:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
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Can anyone explain why there's some stuff in References that doesn't belong? Thomas Yen ( talk) 02:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
why the section of combat history is too short,please expand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.226.190.218 ( talk) 08:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:29, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Type 99 Light Machine Gun →
Type 99 light machine gun – Simply per
WP:CAPS. Common nouns should not be capitalised.
SSDGFCTCT9 (
talk)
20:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
"larger and more powerful 7.7 mm cartridge which also had no rim, which improved cartridge handling"
So... is that "also had no rim" as in "and in addition, it had no rim" or "also had no rim" as in "like the 6.5 it was a rimless design"?
I ask, because the second part of that statement suggests that they improved cartridge handling by moving to a rimless cartridge. However, when I look at pictures of the 6.5, it appears to also be rimless. Both of these statements are confusing and require some clarity.
Pinging @ Meeepmep: as one of the major authors. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 13:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
In the section of Specifications, rate of fire is 800 rounds per minute. However, according to multiple reliable Japanese-side references, rate of fire was about 500-550 rpm.
However, I'm ignorant about Wikipedia's rule and I don't know how to add reference. Would you please tell me this is "original research" or not?
Reference 1
According to the book, required rate of fire was 500 rpm.
「設計の主要条件は、故障の絶無を期す。重量は十一キロいないとし、できるだけ軽量化する。発射速度は一分間概ね五〇〇発を標準とする。」(狭山 2000, p.334)
translation: "The main requirement of the design is to ensure that no failure will occur. The weight shall not exceed 11 kilograms and shall be as light as possible. The standard rate of fire shall be approximately 500 rounds per minute." (Sayama 2000, p.334)
Also, according to appendix table of specification of machine guns, rate of fire of Type 99 light machine gun was 550 rpm. (Sayama, p.441)
佐山二郎(2000)「小銃 拳銃 機関銃入門」光人社, p334, 441
Sayama Jiro, 2000, "Primer of Rifle, Pistol and Machine Gun" Kojin-sha, p.334, 441
ISBN4-7698-2284-7
Reference 2
According to this document, rate of fire of Type 99 light machine gun was 550 rpm.
「8.兵器諸元表/主要兵器諸元表」JACAR(アジア歴史資料センター)Ref.C13120846500、研究機関に関する資料(含技術資料) 昭和20.9.20(防衛省防衛研究所)
"8. Specification table of weapons / specification table of main weapons", JACAR (Japan Center for Asian Historical Records) Ref.C13120846500, References of research institutes (including technical documents), September 20, 1945 (National Institute for Defense Studies, Ministry of Defense Japan)
https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/das/image/C13120846500 (pdf page 3)
Image of document with translation notes: https://i.imgur.com/jdOOMED.png
Reference 3
According to this document, rate of fire of Type 99 light machine gun was 550 rpm.
Note, 九九式軽機銃 is naval name of Type 99 light machine gun. In Japanese army, "machine gun" was called 機関銃 but in Japanese navy it was called 機銃 so name was different.
海軍省館山海軍砲術学校研究部, 「陸戦参考-第1号・陸戦兵器要目表」p.50
Tateyama Naval Artillery School, Ministry of Navy, ”Land Combat Reference - No. 1, Land Combat Weapon List",
https://www.digital.archives.go.jp/das/image/F0000000000000218251 (pdf page 30)
Image of document with translation notes: https://i.imgur.com/Fd7dUT9.png Aizenns ( talk) 14:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)