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What about LSD? Has LSD been used as a truth serum? It was used in the movie _The Good Shepherd_ with Matt Damon and Robert Dinero —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.94.89 ( talk) 17:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Google shows 70,000+ results for "truth serum" and 8,000+ for "truth drug", maybe the first name would be more suitable? -- xDCDx 16:58, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Agreed. Maybe the first for the main name and "Truth drug" redirecting to it. 70.181.240.148 ( talk) 04:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
While probably not as well known as some of the others listed here, I was wondering if it might be worthwhile to add the use of "fastpenta" (a presumed thiopental derivative) in the science-fiction universe created by Lois McMaster Bujold? (since veritaserum and "The Undisputed Truth" are already included). thanks for the feedback,
I agree, the entire pop culture section adds nothing to the article and is inappropriate in an encyclopedia article. I am deleting it. If anyone wants to discuss it, please do so here on the talk page. Beatdown 19:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Removed 'In Fiction' section since section appears to have been tagged last Summer, but no refs have been provided. Rolf H Nelson ( talk) 22:18, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Are all these drugs injected intravenously or do you swallow them? jengod 01:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Depends on the drug. "SP-117" is odorless, tasteless, etc so it's presumably designed for oral use without the person's consent or awareness. 70.181.240.148 ( talk) 04:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I removed the following. It's unsourced (as is much of the article, which should be fixed), and it sounds like rampant speculation rather than documented fact to me. -- Robert Merkel 15:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Truth drugs, like anaesthetics, have a recovery period. Some leave subjects with intense nausea, disorientation, lack of balance, tiredness or other discomforting symptoms for a considerable time after being used.
Narcoanalysis was the old name given to the procedure of questioning a psychiatric patient while still under the influence of a narcotic drug given in very low dosage to ensure proper function of the remaining parts of the brain except the prefrontal brain region.
Narcosynthesis is the act of giving orders and instructions and making suggestions to a human subject while he/she is under the influence of a narcotic drug used in low dose. The subject is unconscious. His/her brain's prefrontal lobes are inactive under the drug's influence. The remaining parts of the brain are active. The orders, instructions and suggestions given to the subject state and determine what the subject will do and/or what he/she will think at a predetermined time in the future when he/she will be conscious. These orders, instructions and suggestions are recorded in the unconscious part of the brain. They are not remembered while the subject is conscious. These orders, instructions and suggestions are executed while the subject is conscious when their predetermined time is up. The subject perceives these as thoughts, impulses, intentions and desires which come up to his/her consciousness in a sudden manner. The given orders and instructions are executed in an automated fashion without any influence from the conscious mind. The subject perceives these events as the instinctive and uncontrolled execution of his/her own desires and impulses coming from the unconscious. The method of narcosynthesis can be strenghtened, augmented by the use of pain infliction during the process of giving orders and instructions. ie by torture.
i suggest to create a short paragraph about CIA's mind control operations, with liks to the different operations, such as Project MKDELTA, MKNAOMI, Project MKULTRA Project ARTICHOKE, Project BLUEBIRD Edgewood Arsenal experiments etc. -- 84.221.197.36 ( talk) 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is Kill Bill mentioned twice in the "In pop culture" section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.83.10.102 ( talk) 20:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Ive talked with a licensed psychologist about so called truth drugs, and he said there is no drug that actually works and makes people the truth. All the drugs may do is loosen inhibitions, there has been no respectable research done that says otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.89.190 ( talk) 21:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
With regard to this edit, one can not remove information sourced to notable books by simply declare it "rumors". "Rumors" is your personal opinion, which is an WP:OR by definition. If you could provide any sources disputing this specific claim, that would be different. Biophys ( talk) 17:54, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Sounds allot like Vodka to me.
let the WP:OR speech commence! 88.90.95.105 ( talk) 19:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I edited this section to add that, according to one source, it is just alcohol. Previously it was extremely biased, claiming that the USSR had an extremely advanced truth serum. Their source also borders on being a primary source- it's not the USSR but it is a publication known to be affiliated with and influenced by the Russian government. — Preceding
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It would be useful to disambiguate between "truth serums" as drugs and various statistical techniques that called "truth serums" - for example, the "A Bayesian Truth Serum For Subjective Data" http://drsmorey.org/bibtex/upload/Prelec:2004.pdf
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What about LSD? Has LSD been used as a truth serum? It was used in the movie _The Good Shepherd_ with Matt Damon and Robert Dinero —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.94.89 ( talk) 17:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Google shows 70,000+ results for "truth serum" and 8,000+ for "truth drug", maybe the first name would be more suitable? -- xDCDx 16:58, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Agreed. Maybe the first for the main name and "Truth drug" redirecting to it. 70.181.240.148 ( talk) 04:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
While probably not as well known as some of the others listed here, I was wondering if it might be worthwhile to add the use of "fastpenta" (a presumed thiopental derivative) in the science-fiction universe created by Lois McMaster Bujold? (since veritaserum and "The Undisputed Truth" are already included). thanks for the feedback,
I agree, the entire pop culture section adds nothing to the article and is inappropriate in an encyclopedia article. I am deleting it. If anyone wants to discuss it, please do so here on the talk page. Beatdown 19:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Removed 'In Fiction' section since section appears to have been tagged last Summer, but no refs have been provided. Rolf H Nelson ( talk) 22:18, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Are all these drugs injected intravenously or do you swallow them? jengod 01:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Depends on the drug. "SP-117" is odorless, tasteless, etc so it's presumably designed for oral use without the person's consent or awareness. 70.181.240.148 ( talk) 04:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I removed the following. It's unsourced (as is much of the article, which should be fixed), and it sounds like rampant speculation rather than documented fact to me. -- Robert Merkel 15:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Truth drugs, like anaesthetics, have a recovery period. Some leave subjects with intense nausea, disorientation, lack of balance, tiredness or other discomforting symptoms for a considerable time after being used.
Narcoanalysis was the old name given to the procedure of questioning a psychiatric patient while still under the influence of a narcotic drug given in very low dosage to ensure proper function of the remaining parts of the brain except the prefrontal brain region.
Narcosynthesis is the act of giving orders and instructions and making suggestions to a human subject while he/she is under the influence of a narcotic drug used in low dose. The subject is unconscious. His/her brain's prefrontal lobes are inactive under the drug's influence. The remaining parts of the brain are active. The orders, instructions and suggestions given to the subject state and determine what the subject will do and/or what he/she will think at a predetermined time in the future when he/she will be conscious. These orders, instructions and suggestions are recorded in the unconscious part of the brain. They are not remembered while the subject is conscious. These orders, instructions and suggestions are executed while the subject is conscious when their predetermined time is up. The subject perceives these as thoughts, impulses, intentions and desires which come up to his/her consciousness in a sudden manner. The given orders and instructions are executed in an automated fashion without any influence from the conscious mind. The subject perceives these events as the instinctive and uncontrolled execution of his/her own desires and impulses coming from the unconscious. The method of narcosynthesis can be strenghtened, augmented by the use of pain infliction during the process of giving orders and instructions. ie by torture.
i suggest to create a short paragraph about CIA's mind control operations, with liks to the different operations, such as Project MKDELTA, MKNAOMI, Project MKULTRA Project ARTICHOKE, Project BLUEBIRD Edgewood Arsenal experiments etc. -- 84.221.197.36 ( talk) 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is Kill Bill mentioned twice in the "In pop culture" section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.83.10.102 ( talk) 20:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Ive talked with a licensed psychologist about so called truth drugs, and he said there is no drug that actually works and makes people the truth. All the drugs may do is loosen inhibitions, there has been no respectable research done that says otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.89.190 ( talk) 21:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
With regard to this edit, one can not remove information sourced to notable books by simply declare it "rumors". "Rumors" is your personal opinion, which is an WP:OR by definition. If you could provide any sources disputing this specific claim, that would be different. Biophys ( talk) 17:54, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Sounds allot like Vodka to me.
let the WP:OR speech commence! 88.90.95.105 ( talk) 19:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I edited this section to add that, according to one source, it is just alcohol. Previously it was extremely biased, claiming that the USSR had an extremely advanced truth serum. Their source also borders on being a primary source- it's not the USSR but it is a publication known to be affiliated with and influenced by the Russian government. — Preceding
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It would be useful to disambiguate between "truth serums" as drugs and various statistical techniques that called "truth serums" - for example, the "A Bayesian Truth Serum For Subjective Data" http://drsmorey.org/bibtex/upload/Prelec:2004.pdf
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When discussing the legalities, the article referred to the United States and then said that concerns were made internationally as well, as if the United States is the world's default country. I amended it to show reflect the fact that the US is a country just like any other. The 5th amendment of the US constitution only applies to the US and not the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.252.124.195 ( talk) 03:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I tried fixing it myself but the edit got reverted because it was "Far too much for this." If you understand what vintage package is supposed to be please explain. Davidxu160801 ( talk) 18:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)