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The first part of the final sentence in the lede ("The two men remained lifelong lovers, and Cavalieri was present at the artist's death") isn't reflected in the PDF given as a source.
Two relevant paragraphs from the PDF:
Even though this might sound like a letter between lovers to our modern ears, and Michelangelo often referred to Cavalieri’s beauty in his writing, it is unlikely the two men were ever involved physically. Other writers of the time also remarked upon Cavalieri’s striking physical appearance, and in the sixteenth century, such beautiful young men were often held up for public praise as examples of God’s spirit in human form.
In 1533, Cavalieri wrote appreciatively to Michelangelo that he had been studying the drawings which the artist had given him for two hours a day. The friendship between the two men would endure for thirty years. Cavalieri was present at the artist’s death in 1564 and subsequently helped to realise some of his architectural schemes. He so valued the drawings by Michelangelo that Vasari was to say: ‘…in truth he rightly treasures them as relics’.
I've added a citation needed tag for now. Barring any reliable source appearing I'll rephrase the sentence to describe a platonic friendship in accordance with the current source. 122.59.64.248 ( talk) 02:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Editors and Readers,
I do not understand how the birth year for dei Cavalieri can be listed as "1509". In the biography portion of this article, it clearly states that his parents were married in November of 1509 and that his brother was born first. In the first sentence of the biography portion of the article, it clearly states that the exact year of his birth is not known and that he was born sometime between 1512 and 1519, so why has no one corrected the birth year? Instead of leaving it at "1509", it should be changed to read "c. 1512-1519", should it not? I am not going to revise this myself, as I am not an expert in dei Cavalieri, his life, or his family. If I knew with more certainty, I would change it myself, but I leave that to an art history expert. Randal J. Loy, Kansas City, Missouri
Addition: If he is born between 1512-1519 and he met Michelangelo in 1532, he would have been 13-20 years old and not 23 years old as stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A44A:2956:1:C9DD:D0DF:DA8A:51CC ( talk) 21:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Shouldn’t we add this famous picture of Cavalieri to the article? A drawing by his beloved Michelangelo, 1532, Musée Bonnat, Bayonne. Chip-chip-2020 ( talk) 08:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
File:Tommaso de‘ Cavalieri.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip-chip-2020 ( talk • contribs) 08:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
The person on the image (you deleted) is identified by Stephanie Buck already in „Michelangelo’s Dream“, London 2010, as Tommaso de‘ Cavalieri. [1] Chip-chip-2020 ( talk) 14:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Conclusion: The museum, which holds the drawing, confirm it shows Cavalieri, the curator of the exhibition as well („Michelangelo‘s portrait of Cavalieri“) [2], and some think something else. So we should show it with a text like „thought to be Cavalieri“ (the same way like it’s done in other Wiki-Articles) Chip-chip-2020 ( talk) 11:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
"I will block you if there is further disruption or a long-term edit war."Mathsci ( talk) 10:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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The first part of the final sentence in the lede ("The two men remained lifelong lovers, and Cavalieri was present at the artist's death") isn't reflected in the PDF given as a source.
Two relevant paragraphs from the PDF:
Even though this might sound like a letter between lovers to our modern ears, and Michelangelo often referred to Cavalieri’s beauty in his writing, it is unlikely the two men were ever involved physically. Other writers of the time also remarked upon Cavalieri’s striking physical appearance, and in the sixteenth century, such beautiful young men were often held up for public praise as examples of God’s spirit in human form.
In 1533, Cavalieri wrote appreciatively to Michelangelo that he had been studying the drawings which the artist had given him for two hours a day. The friendship between the two men would endure for thirty years. Cavalieri was present at the artist’s death in 1564 and subsequently helped to realise some of his architectural schemes. He so valued the drawings by Michelangelo that Vasari was to say: ‘…in truth he rightly treasures them as relics’.
I've added a citation needed tag for now. Barring any reliable source appearing I'll rephrase the sentence to describe a platonic friendship in accordance with the current source. 122.59.64.248 ( talk) 02:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Editors and Readers,
I do not understand how the birth year for dei Cavalieri can be listed as "1509". In the biography portion of this article, it clearly states that his parents were married in November of 1509 and that his brother was born first. In the first sentence of the biography portion of the article, it clearly states that the exact year of his birth is not known and that he was born sometime between 1512 and 1519, so why has no one corrected the birth year? Instead of leaving it at "1509", it should be changed to read "c. 1512-1519", should it not? I am not going to revise this myself, as I am not an expert in dei Cavalieri, his life, or his family. If I knew with more certainty, I would change it myself, but I leave that to an art history expert. Randal J. Loy, Kansas City, Missouri
Addition: If he is born between 1512-1519 and he met Michelangelo in 1532, he would have been 13-20 years old and not 23 years old as stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A44A:2956:1:C9DD:D0DF:DA8A:51CC ( talk) 21:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Shouldn’t we add this famous picture of Cavalieri to the article? A drawing by his beloved Michelangelo, 1532, Musée Bonnat, Bayonne. Chip-chip-2020 ( talk) 08:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
File:Tommaso de‘ Cavalieri.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip-chip-2020 ( talk • contribs) 08:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
The person on the image (you deleted) is identified by Stephanie Buck already in „Michelangelo’s Dream“, London 2010, as Tommaso de‘ Cavalieri. [1] Chip-chip-2020 ( talk) 14:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Conclusion: The museum, which holds the drawing, confirm it shows Cavalieri, the curator of the exhibition as well („Michelangelo‘s portrait of Cavalieri“) [2], and some think something else. So we should show it with a text like „thought to be Cavalieri“ (the same way like it’s done in other Wiki-Articles) Chip-chip-2020 ( talk) 11:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
"I will block you if there is further disruption or a long-term edit war."Mathsci ( talk) 10:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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