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On 28 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Timeline of the 2021 United States Capitol attack to Timeline of the January 6 United States Capitol attack. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Kudos to everyone who put this article together, and continues to work on it! I added Trump's video statement to the January 7 section, and hope someone can add an approximate time. In the video, Trump claimed "I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders." Are there any news reports that substantiate or conflict with this? Thanks again! GoingBatty ( talk) 23:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
I added a video of Senate going into recess, don't we want two House video fragments mentioned at Talk:2021 storming of the United States Capitol/Archive 9#C-SPAN broadcast of the chambers a week ago in our timeline? Ain92 ( talk) 17:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
To the timeline should be added reference to the 4:26 pm body cam video where rioters are attacking police on the Capitol steps, and when Rosanne Boyland was being trampled. Assambrew ( talk) 13:56, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
To describe the unarmed, 5-foot-tall Ashli Babbitt as an "insurrectionist" is obscene. The video of her shooting shows that she was shot in cold blood while climbing through a window.
And to matter of factly state that Trump repeated his "false claims" of election fraud is a biased, subjective judgment that ignores a mountain of evidence that serious election fraud occurred in several key swing states. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikegriffith1 ( talk • contribs)
Eric Hershman did NOT suggest election meddling by Venezuela (which is also misspelled in this article). If you read the source article, you will see he was reporting Powell and others had suggested this. 2601:644:302:DC50:DD70:CA9:43EB:3C37 ( talk) 16:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:2021 United States Capitol attack which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 18:04, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
I think it's obvious that referencing Trump's tweets is important here. However, every link to his account on twitter is dead. I've browsed a few pages and there doesn't seem to be any consistent approach to the issue. This archive appears to be committed to keeping his tweets for the historical record, but its only means of referencing individual tweets is through an API that delivers strictly JSON. There's always archive.org, I suppose. I'm very new to editing Wikipedia, what are others' thoughts on how this issue should be approached?-- Gebble ( talk) 21:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
What does this mean? The text should clarify. Feoffer ( talk) 21:10, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello User:Valjean This edit is certainly not vandalism. Invasive Spices ( talk) 18:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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was interrupted but then I checked. I do have the edit window open all this time and I see now that my version also has this problem. I suppose this means WP was interrupted while giving me the wikicode.]I've been trying to source as to which single riot (one event, spanning less than a day) would be the worst, with particular emphasis on injured officers. Unfortunately Google doesn't seem to intuit keywords/phrases well enough to tease out single riots and police, etc. casualties. This one is reported to have caused >100 injuries to officers, with one of the injured assured that the figure might be in the hundreds.
Perhaps someone with better research smarts can come up with something more definitive. If J6 was the worst in police/military riot injuries, it's a factoid worth placement in the article. JohndanR ( talk) 04:55, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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I propose that the following text be replaced:
The next day, Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died after suffering two strokes, having been physically attacked and pepper sprayed during the riot.
Substitute with perhaps:
The next day, Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes after suffering two strokes. Sicknick had been pepper sprayed by a protester during the riot however that was found not to be contributing factor in his death.
The associated references have now been identified as significantly innacurate news articles and might be worthwhile removing. "[11][12][13][14]"
News article factual inaccuracies surrounding the Sicknick events are detailed at length in this Wikipedia page. I believe that applies to those references. /info/en/?search=Death_of_Brian_Sicknick Ajg90 ( talk) 09:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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19:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Unless I missed it, this needs fixing for objectivity.
83.255.180.77 ( talk) 08:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
"8:17 a.m.: Trump tweets allegations of vote fraud and asks Pence to delay the electoral count:"
While technically accurate that it would "delay", this does not automatically mean that the actual terminology used or the underlying motive, neither communicated or not, was simply a delay. Instead, it has been stated that it is to "try" (see "trial by combat") the election results legally and attempt a recount or even revote.
I don't agree with the decision to attempt either. Just want to make sure this article stays objective.
83.255.180.77 ( talk) 08:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
The January 6 mob (in)famously chanted "Hang Mike Pence!" The article makes no mention of this. It seems to me that it should. Is there a known time at which the mob chanted this? Krakatoa ( talk) 00:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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On 28 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Timeline of the 2021 United States Capitol attack to Timeline of the January 6 United States Capitol attack. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Kudos to everyone who put this article together, and continues to work on it! I added Trump's video statement to the January 7 section, and hope someone can add an approximate time. In the video, Trump claimed "I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders." Are there any news reports that substantiate or conflict with this? Thanks again! GoingBatty ( talk) 23:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
I added a video of Senate going into recess, don't we want two House video fragments mentioned at Talk:2021 storming of the United States Capitol/Archive 9#C-SPAN broadcast of the chambers a week ago in our timeline? Ain92 ( talk) 17:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
To the timeline should be added reference to the 4:26 pm body cam video where rioters are attacking police on the Capitol steps, and when Rosanne Boyland was being trampled. Assambrew ( talk) 13:56, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
To describe the unarmed, 5-foot-tall Ashli Babbitt as an "insurrectionist" is obscene. The video of her shooting shows that she was shot in cold blood while climbing through a window.
And to matter of factly state that Trump repeated his "false claims" of election fraud is a biased, subjective judgment that ignores a mountain of evidence that serious election fraud occurred in several key swing states. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikegriffith1 ( talk • contribs)
Eric Hershman did NOT suggest election meddling by Venezuela (which is also misspelled in this article). If you read the source article, you will see he was reporting Powell and others had suggested this. 2601:644:302:DC50:DD70:CA9:43EB:3C37 ( talk) 16:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:2021 United States Capitol attack which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 18:04, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
I think it's obvious that referencing Trump's tweets is important here. However, every link to his account on twitter is dead. I've browsed a few pages and there doesn't seem to be any consistent approach to the issue. This archive appears to be committed to keeping his tweets for the historical record, but its only means of referencing individual tweets is through an API that delivers strictly JSON. There's always archive.org, I suppose. I'm very new to editing Wikipedia, what are others' thoughts on how this issue should be approached?-- Gebble ( talk) 21:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
What does this mean? The text should clarify. Feoffer ( talk) 21:10, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello User:Valjean This edit is certainly not vandalism. Invasive Spices ( talk) 18:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Publish changes
was interrupted but then I checked. I do have the edit window open all this time and I see now that my version also has this problem. I suppose this means WP was interrupted while giving me the wikicode.]I've been trying to source as to which single riot (one event, spanning less than a day) would be the worst, with particular emphasis on injured officers. Unfortunately Google doesn't seem to intuit keywords/phrases well enough to tease out single riots and police, etc. casualties. This one is reported to have caused >100 injuries to officers, with one of the injured assured that the figure might be in the hundreds.
Perhaps someone with better research smarts can come up with something more definitive. If J6 was the worst in police/military riot injuries, it's a factoid worth placement in the article. JohndanR ( talk) 04:55, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I propose that the following text be replaced:
The next day, Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died after suffering two strokes, having been physically attacked and pepper sprayed during the riot.
Substitute with perhaps:
The next day, Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes after suffering two strokes. Sicknick had been pepper sprayed by a protester during the riot however that was found not to be contributing factor in his death.
The associated references have now been identified as significantly innacurate news articles and might be worthwhile removing. "[11][12][13][14]"
News article factual inaccuracies surrounding the Sicknick events are detailed at length in this Wikipedia page. I believe that applies to those references. /info/en/?search=Death_of_Brian_Sicknick Ajg90 ( talk) 09:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Shadow311 (
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19:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Unless I missed it, this needs fixing for objectivity.
83.255.180.77 ( talk) 08:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
"8:17 a.m.: Trump tweets allegations of vote fraud and asks Pence to delay the electoral count:"
While technically accurate that it would "delay", this does not automatically mean that the actual terminology used or the underlying motive, neither communicated or not, was simply a delay. Instead, it has been stated that it is to "try" (see "trial by combat") the election results legally and attempt a recount or even revote.
I don't agree with the decision to attempt either. Just want to make sure this article stays objective.
83.255.180.77 ( talk) 08:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
The January 6 mob (in)famously chanted "Hang Mike Pence!" The article makes no mention of this. It seems to me that it should. Is there a known time at which the mob chanted this? Krakatoa ( talk) 00:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)