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According to the RIAA's Gold and Platinum Database Search, Time Out and Kind of Blue both went platinum on the same day, 28 April, 1997 (which, admittedly, seems kind of weird). They were both beaten by Head Hunters (certified 1986) and Heavy Weather (certified 1991). (I got these albums from this list.) Are we sure the Telegraph isn't talking about some other, perhaps British, rating agency and not the RIAA? Or maybe we're disallowing fusion?— Ketil Trout ( <><!) 02:30, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Whether it is the first certified album is irrelevant. First, the person who recorded it died, not the album, and second, there are the issues mentioned above, and third, there were musicians whose records were sold poorly, but were very influencing. So all in all, the mention of this particular album having received a certification is very poor. Regards.-- Tomcat ( 7) 12:25, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Now there is a source stating it has been certified double-platinum, but RIAA itself does not support this claim. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 01:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Another source here if anyone wants to work it into the article. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 04:26, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Tawney, Raj (13 December 2019). "The Dave Brubeck Quartet's 'Time Out' at 60: Inside Jazz's First Million-Selling LP". Billboard.
The claim that the album has sold 2 :million copies is not supported by the RIAA sources, which only list it as having sold 1 :million as of 1997, but those are only for US sales. The band's site links to an article that it was certified double platinum, but again, not according to RIAA. Without seeing Stephen A. Crist's book, it's not clear what it is basing sales on. So the issue is that RIAA's own site does not support the claim being made. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 21:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
It is poor writing style to continually repeat the subject, yet Korny O'Near ( talk · contribs) seems to want to do just that. It is mentioned in the lede, twice in the background section, once in the legacy section, twice in the reissues section and once in the charts section. Korny O'Near edit warred this into a summary (rather than following WP:BRD) "a) nowhere else does it explicitly say these were from the "Time Out" sessions, and (b) "recorded during the recording" sounds weird". Why would we be discussing any other work than the one this article is about? Also out-takes are clearly the cuts from the Time Out recording sessions. Which other album's sessions would we be discussing in this article? If it were from another album's out-takes, that would be worth writing about, but I have changed the phrase to "as well as two previously-unreleased songs from the same sessions". We are both at 3RR so a discussion is in order. How would you change it without repeating the album's title yet again? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 08:13, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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According to the RIAA's Gold and Platinum Database Search, Time Out and Kind of Blue both went platinum on the same day, 28 April, 1997 (which, admittedly, seems kind of weird). They were both beaten by Head Hunters (certified 1986) and Heavy Weather (certified 1991). (I got these albums from this list.) Are we sure the Telegraph isn't talking about some other, perhaps British, rating agency and not the RIAA? Or maybe we're disallowing fusion?— Ketil Trout ( <><!) 02:30, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Whether it is the first certified album is irrelevant. First, the person who recorded it died, not the album, and second, there are the issues mentioned above, and third, there were musicians whose records were sold poorly, but were very influencing. So all in all, the mention of this particular album having received a certification is very poor. Regards.-- Tomcat ( 7) 12:25, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Now there is a source stating it has been certified double-platinum, but RIAA itself does not support this claim. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 01:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Another source here if anyone wants to work it into the article. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 04:26, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Tawney, Raj (13 December 2019). "The Dave Brubeck Quartet's 'Time Out' at 60: Inside Jazz's First Million-Selling LP". Billboard.
The claim that the album has sold 2 :million copies is not supported by the RIAA sources, which only list it as having sold 1 :million as of 1997, but those are only for US sales. The band's site links to an article that it was certified double platinum, but again, not according to RIAA. Without seeing Stephen A. Crist's book, it's not clear what it is basing sales on. So the issue is that RIAA's own site does not support the claim being made. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 21:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
It is poor writing style to continually repeat the subject, yet Korny O'Near ( talk · contribs) seems to want to do just that. It is mentioned in the lede, twice in the background section, once in the legacy section, twice in the reissues section and once in the charts section. Korny O'Near edit warred this into a summary (rather than following WP:BRD) "a) nowhere else does it explicitly say these were from the "Time Out" sessions, and (b) "recorded during the recording" sounds weird". Why would we be discussing any other work than the one this article is about? Also out-takes are clearly the cuts from the Time Out recording sessions. Which other album's sessions would we be discussing in this article? If it were from another album's out-takes, that would be worth writing about, but I have changed the phrase to "as well as two previously-unreleased songs from the same sessions". We are both at 3RR so a discussion is in order. How would you change it without repeating the album's title yet again? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 08:13, 29 December 2021 (UTC)