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It's a French phrase who use has been co-opted to refer to a sexual threesome. After the first paragraph, everything in the article refered to sex, what the emotional requirements of such a relationship are, etc. Everything in this article refers to threesomes and so better belongs here, rather than co-opting that discussion. Banaticus 09:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
The article on Ménage à trois contradicts this pages contrast by stating that Ménage à trois don't necessarily involve a sexual relationship. 16:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.19.137.77 ( talk)
I am the publisher and editor of III(THREE):The Fantay and Experience of Threesome Sex. This wikipedia entry about threesomes needs much work. I am not that expreienced with editing on wikipedia. If anyone wants to edit the entire page more fully, I'd be happy to work with them. How do we post a Dispute or Under Construction label? -- Crystal Haidl www.threesomebook.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.196.143.180 ( talk) 22:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the octupi picture is doing here - most of the other links to the picture are of non-con or bestial sexual acts. No where else on the page does it discuss anything related to the picture. It seems rather startling to go from discussing jealousy in a three-way relationship to a painting of bestiality. Genericchimera 12:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't quite know where to begin. This article containes virtually nothing about the actual act itself - fails to present a balanced argument on the pros and cons - fails to place the activity in its social or historical context and appears to have more to say on polyamorous relationships than on threesomes themselves - does not take account of threesomes that take place outside of established relationships.
Most of it is actually off topic. A threesome is not a type of relationship, it is a type of sexual activity, and this article does not clearly represent the distinction. -- JamesTheNumberless 14:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is under attack by trolls from 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.225.80.134 ( talk) 03:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
why is not this article merged with Gang bang? It is more or less about the same thing.. -- Have a nice day. Running 19:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
This article is bad for so many reasons! Would anyone have a problem with me editing the heck out of this? I mean, if it doesn't work out, then so be it, you guys can cut and snip what you like, but I think searching "threesome" and getting this article reflects poorly on Wikipedia to be frank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapanacc ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I have edited the bad bits out of this article. I have also more properly classified threesome as an intimate act, as nonreproductive relations, especially involving three people are not necessarily and are very rarely sexual in the most accurate sense. Karla Lindstrom 04:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really in favor of a merge because while this article is definitely more stub than anything, the Ménage à trois article talks more about the relationship aspects; an ongoing relationship of three people is rather different than three people having sex, since we already have two separate articles for these two separate concepts, it makes sense to me to keep it that way, and work to improve this article. -- Akb4 ( talk) 01:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanking whoever did this. I am still for the use of intimacy, as to me sexual seems to be mechanical and biological, but this is fine. Karla Lindstrom 00:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
None of the external links work. Krylonblue83 ( talk) 02:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
It seems the article at some points even puts some effort in going around homosexuality, always mentioning males penetrating females in all sorts of ways, an never mentioning single sex 2somes, nor same sex direct interactions during a 3some (like say, a female being penetrated by a male, that is being penetrated by a second male) -- TiagoTiago ( talk) 19:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
This section is ridiculously trivial and unencyclopaedic. There is no evidence of cultural impact for any of the examples included. I propose the list is deleted as a unsalvagable trivia magnet without significant sourcing and re-write. Fæ ( talk) 14:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Removed list: In popular culture
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Now removed but copied here for information. Fæ ( talk) 09:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
The only source given was marked as a dead link in August 2010. But now the same link is just a commercial porn site with no reference value, so I've removed it - and so the article is now unsourced -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 21:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
"Using male condoms in a threesome may not be safe"
What? Where's the reference? It then goes on to say new condoms should be used with each partner - should this not be reworded to "Reusing condoms in a threesome may not be safe, however a new condom should be used with each partner"?
92.6.128.187 ( talk) 03:02, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey -- I want to do a lot of edits to this article, so I'm going to bullet-point them here for anybody to oppose.
In general I want to make this article read more neutrally and generically. It is too heteronormative and relies too heavily on tropes of what past authors seem to have considered "standard" threesomes. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 18:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Notes on rewriting intro: made article's content the first definition, clarified their relationship to polyamory and menage a trois, left out love triangle. If anybody's confused by love triangles, they'll look up that Wikipedia article themselves. (reductio ad absurdum, "a threesome should not be confused with a Sherman tank.") I wanted to put group sex in the intro, but the group sex article treats group sex largely from the bathhouse angle. So I clarified that, with the convenient linguistic trick of an orgy being group sex but not a threesome.
Notes on rewriting types: Oh, this is such a tricky section. It should really just refer to sexual activity and the square-cube law. Trying to add more is just pulling up arbitrary examples, and that's already happening at Sex positions, so I linked there.
That is not how swinging defines soft-swinging, the "gang bang" article defines MMF "gang bang" as a "tag team," "one active member" is incongruous in its name and only highlights the incompleteness of the list, and "full threesome" is not a term I've ever heard, and is a bit troubling in terms of describing sex acts as "full" or "complete." Participants define that. The "Lucky Pierre" definition is also a bit off from what I understand and other articles define.
Rewrote safety. The previous form was lacking.
No time this evening to do citations, but there weren't any before. Feel free to post criticisms. Please, SOMEBODY write a "threesomes in modern media" section. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 02:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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I reverted the recent edit because:
• the focus on swingers is a bit weird; they're a subculture and their terminology shouldn't be prioritized in this article. Also, "male" and "female" aren't capitalized, and claiming that one threesome combination is the most popular definitely requires a citation.
• I feel like there were a whole lot of cases where the new language was less clear or said different things, especially in the introduction.
• "369" is not a recognized name for a sex position, and the citation for it was by the same person who made this very large edit. The citation also clearly liberally hyperlinks "369" to a webpage defining it in an attempt to improve its Google presence, making me suspect the motivation behind its inclusion on this page.
Basically, I put a bunch of effort into making this page be less focussed on specific threesome stereotypes and more generally applicable, and this edit seemed to be heading in a very different direction, with a dash of self-advertisement, so I undid it. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 02:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Bottomline: Threesomes or threesome sex cannot be defined usefully without references to the modern concept of swinging.
Swingers have labored for decades trying to throw the yoke off that it is nothing more than wife-swappping. Swingers are far more than just married couples, and it is far more than just twosomes! There is a wide variety of individuals, couples, orientation, and sexual activity that occurs in swinging. It is a very big tent, but threesome sex is probably the single biggest attraction for people to join the lifestyle--both singles and couples.
The maths alone should be proof. There are hundreds of swinger websites. Each with thousands of profiles in their memberships. The larger websites have millions of members, and the biggest boasts over 42 million world-wide! Sociologist believe there are about 2-4 million couples in the North America who are swingers. Either by polling, by anecdote, or by searching the databases of swinger websites, the result is the same, single men seeking to do a threesome with a couple or couples seeking a threesome with either a male or a female. Nearly every profile of new swinger couples state that their desire is to find another person who would like to do a threesome with them. Sometimes it is to explore one of the members bisexuality. Sometimes it is to engage in some mild cuckold fantasy. Most frequently it is seen as the "tamest" way to introduce some spice into sex life. For the experienced swingers in group settings, with other couples or just singles, the sexual activity they engage in almost always includes a sexual act that can be classified as a threesome. The nomenclature for threesome sex is replete with names and combinations and positions for threesome sex that are almost unknown by the majority of people who have never had sex with more than one person at a time. Non-English speaking Wiki entries for "threesome" (or translation) almost always include these descriptions. [see German]
But no matter what, threesome sex is almost always the first vehicle for entering into swinging--if not in fact or in deed, then at least by preference or fantasy. "Threesome" and "Threesome Sex" could probably be divided into two different Wiki entries, but the average reader would have no understanding (or sympathy) as why there would be two dividing philosophies that would demand separate entries. For most, threesome is one concept, and that idea is overwhelmingly the sexual act itself. Just do an unrestricted search for the word threesome on the Internet and look at the kind of results you would likely see.
I understand that there is a cultural divide between polyamory and swinging. I've seen it for decades. The first emphasize the emotional bonds and the relationships and the degrees of commitment or love that exists in such relationships. The second are more likely to emphasize the sexual activity and its recreational and casual aspects. The result is a constant ontological turf war where the two sides fight over control of the language. Nonetheless, it is a disservice to have a encyclopedic entry on threesomes without a direct reference to swinging--particularly if the entry elaborates the concept with direct references to polyamory and Ménage à trois and mentions non-monogamous sex without a naming the central path by which such threesomes occur.
Clearly, when people want to know the Who, What, When, Where and Why of threesomes it must include swinging. It is a huge fantasy for many people, and it is the single most cited request in profiles of millions of swingers. And it is statistically the overwhelming experience of swingers and those that have casual threesome sex.
I have not reverted my reference to swinging in the central definition because I want to make sure we have an common understanding rather than engage in constant edits and rollbacks. My point is that you have stated that you want the definition to be more generalized yet are attempting to exclude the single largest category of millions of adherents who want, fantasize or regularly engage in (recreational) threesome sex. To have a definition that includes polyamory and Ménage à trois with only an oblique reference to swinging fails to give a proper definition. JVB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohannVanbeek ( talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
(NB: I have copy-edited this comment from my talk page, without specific permission. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 02:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC) )
Partly on grounds of notability (or lack thereof), I think this article would make more sense as a subsection of the group sex article.-- Ty rS 04:21, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Art_Manual_of_Style#Image_captions. Four out of the five current illustrations lack the minimum information (artist and title of work).-- Ty rS 04:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
What about an activity involving three people, cuddling in a non-sexual, but perhaps romantic fashion? Benjamin ( talk) 04:11, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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The part about a devil triangle meaning the same thing as threesome is wrong. Citing one guy from Cosmo who used it incorrectly to mean a threesome is not adequate support. In threesome sex a triangle is a position. The three participants give oral to one another hence a rudimentary triangle being formed. — Preceding
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How do you add images? This site depicts the triangle sex position https://www.sexualpositionsfree.com/magtriansexp.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.227.112 ( talk) 02:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with listing these two: A Clockwork Orange, and Wolf of Wall Street.
The section should be corrected or deleted. If this "media" category is needed, then movies such as: Y Tu Mamá También (2001) should be listed and others which can be validated with references, not with links to a video on YouTube.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/best-film-sex-scenes-films-top-10-movies-mulholland-drive-moonlight-gods-own-country-blue-valentine-a8541826.html
I went back to the date / time / wikiedit where the text under Media was changed from something that was reasonable to the three films listed above and based on what the wiki editor wrote he wanted to add movies that were "much more famous" The editor wrote "Add much more famous movies" OK, these movies above are "much more famous" but that doesn't mean it is accurate to associate them with "threesomes". In actuality the films don't represent "threesomes" but rape, and orgies.
Before this edit was made the "Media" section had the following text of (not so famous movies) maybe more accurate in that they feature threesomes. I don't know, never saw the movies and don't feel like researching this any further but this is what was there before the above edit was made. "One of the few films with a threesome is the erotic thriller Wild Things (1998) and its sequels Wild Things 2 (2004), Wild Things: Diamonds in the Rough (2005) and Knock Knock (2015), all of which involved a threesome of one man and two women. Zoolander (2001), Ken Park (2002), The Dreamers (2003), Savages (2012) and On the Road (2012) all contained a threesome of two men and one woman."
Also, wikipedia has a "Category:Films_about_threesomes which lists movies that fit this category. /info/en/?search=Category:Films_about_threesomes
-- the eloquent peasant ( talk) 18:43, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
all 3 were made legal for the movie. 2601:19C:527F:A660:BC4B:A053:6ADC:8BE9 ( talk) 06:19, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
I made a post /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Threesome 199.127.56.123 ( talk) 19:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
millions of people are now talking about [it]is that it is related to crime gossip about a living individual. wumbolo ^^^ 14:42, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
“Devil’s Triangle” — which many believe refers to sex between two men and one woman. That legitimises it as an understood term for that concept, in the voice of a reliable source. The fact that it may have originated in an unreliable source becomes irrelevant at that point. What was an obscure term has become a mainstream term. It may or may not recede into obscurity again, but we can evaluate that in the future rather than looking into WP:CRYSTAL balls. — Amakuru ( talk) 14:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Isn't this the same concept? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:13, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
refers to sexual activity in which three persons take part simultaneously. -Crossroads- ( talk) 04:54, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
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It's a French phrase who use has been co-opted to refer to a sexual threesome. After the first paragraph, everything in the article refered to sex, what the emotional requirements of such a relationship are, etc. Everything in this article refers to threesomes and so better belongs here, rather than co-opting that discussion. Banaticus 09:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
The article on Ménage à trois contradicts this pages contrast by stating that Ménage à trois don't necessarily involve a sexual relationship. 16:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.19.137.77 ( talk)
I am the publisher and editor of III(THREE):The Fantay and Experience of Threesome Sex. This wikipedia entry about threesomes needs much work. I am not that expreienced with editing on wikipedia. If anyone wants to edit the entire page more fully, I'd be happy to work with them. How do we post a Dispute or Under Construction label? -- Crystal Haidl www.threesomebook.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.196.143.180 ( talk) 22:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the octupi picture is doing here - most of the other links to the picture are of non-con or bestial sexual acts. No where else on the page does it discuss anything related to the picture. It seems rather startling to go from discussing jealousy in a three-way relationship to a painting of bestiality. Genericchimera 12:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't quite know where to begin. This article containes virtually nothing about the actual act itself - fails to present a balanced argument on the pros and cons - fails to place the activity in its social or historical context and appears to have more to say on polyamorous relationships than on threesomes themselves - does not take account of threesomes that take place outside of established relationships.
Most of it is actually off topic. A threesome is not a type of relationship, it is a type of sexual activity, and this article does not clearly represent the distinction. -- JamesTheNumberless 14:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is under attack by trolls from 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.225.80.134 ( talk) 03:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
why is not this article merged with Gang bang? It is more or less about the same thing.. -- Have a nice day. Running 19:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
This article is bad for so many reasons! Would anyone have a problem with me editing the heck out of this? I mean, if it doesn't work out, then so be it, you guys can cut and snip what you like, but I think searching "threesome" and getting this article reflects poorly on Wikipedia to be frank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapanacc ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I have edited the bad bits out of this article. I have also more properly classified threesome as an intimate act, as nonreproductive relations, especially involving three people are not necessarily and are very rarely sexual in the most accurate sense. Karla Lindstrom 04:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really in favor of a merge because while this article is definitely more stub than anything, the Ménage à trois article talks more about the relationship aspects; an ongoing relationship of three people is rather different than three people having sex, since we already have two separate articles for these two separate concepts, it makes sense to me to keep it that way, and work to improve this article. -- Akb4 ( talk) 01:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanking whoever did this. I am still for the use of intimacy, as to me sexual seems to be mechanical and biological, but this is fine. Karla Lindstrom 00:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
None of the external links work. Krylonblue83 ( talk) 02:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
It seems the article at some points even puts some effort in going around homosexuality, always mentioning males penetrating females in all sorts of ways, an never mentioning single sex 2somes, nor same sex direct interactions during a 3some (like say, a female being penetrated by a male, that is being penetrated by a second male) -- TiagoTiago ( talk) 19:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
This section is ridiculously trivial and unencyclopaedic. There is no evidence of cultural impact for any of the examples included. I propose the list is deleted as a unsalvagable trivia magnet without significant sourcing and re-write. Fæ ( talk) 14:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Removed list: In popular culture
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Now removed but copied here for information. Fæ ( talk) 09:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
The only source given was marked as a dead link in August 2010. But now the same link is just a commercial porn site with no reference value, so I've removed it - and so the article is now unsourced -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 21:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
"Using male condoms in a threesome may not be safe"
What? Where's the reference? It then goes on to say new condoms should be used with each partner - should this not be reworded to "Reusing condoms in a threesome may not be safe, however a new condom should be used with each partner"?
92.6.128.187 ( talk) 03:02, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey -- I want to do a lot of edits to this article, so I'm going to bullet-point them here for anybody to oppose.
In general I want to make this article read more neutrally and generically. It is too heteronormative and relies too heavily on tropes of what past authors seem to have considered "standard" threesomes. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 18:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Notes on rewriting intro: made article's content the first definition, clarified their relationship to polyamory and menage a trois, left out love triangle. If anybody's confused by love triangles, they'll look up that Wikipedia article themselves. (reductio ad absurdum, "a threesome should not be confused with a Sherman tank.") I wanted to put group sex in the intro, but the group sex article treats group sex largely from the bathhouse angle. So I clarified that, with the convenient linguistic trick of an orgy being group sex but not a threesome.
Notes on rewriting types: Oh, this is such a tricky section. It should really just refer to sexual activity and the square-cube law. Trying to add more is just pulling up arbitrary examples, and that's already happening at Sex positions, so I linked there.
That is not how swinging defines soft-swinging, the "gang bang" article defines MMF "gang bang" as a "tag team," "one active member" is incongruous in its name and only highlights the incompleteness of the list, and "full threesome" is not a term I've ever heard, and is a bit troubling in terms of describing sex acts as "full" or "complete." Participants define that. The "Lucky Pierre" definition is also a bit off from what I understand and other articles define.
Rewrote safety. The previous form was lacking.
No time this evening to do citations, but there weren't any before. Feel free to post criticisms. Please, SOMEBODY write a "threesomes in modern media" section. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 02:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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IP user removed all the images, no reason listed. Happy to talk about it. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 03:36, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I reverted the recent edit because:
• the focus on swingers is a bit weird; they're a subculture and their terminology shouldn't be prioritized in this article. Also, "male" and "female" aren't capitalized, and claiming that one threesome combination is the most popular definitely requires a citation.
• I feel like there were a whole lot of cases where the new language was less clear or said different things, especially in the introduction.
• "369" is not a recognized name for a sex position, and the citation for it was by the same person who made this very large edit. The citation also clearly liberally hyperlinks "369" to a webpage defining it in an attempt to improve its Google presence, making me suspect the motivation behind its inclusion on this page.
Basically, I put a bunch of effort into making this page be less focussed on specific threesome stereotypes and more generally applicable, and this edit seemed to be heading in a very different direction, with a dash of self-advertisement, so I undid it. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 02:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Bottomline: Threesomes or threesome sex cannot be defined usefully without references to the modern concept of swinging.
Swingers have labored for decades trying to throw the yoke off that it is nothing more than wife-swappping. Swingers are far more than just married couples, and it is far more than just twosomes! There is a wide variety of individuals, couples, orientation, and sexual activity that occurs in swinging. It is a very big tent, but threesome sex is probably the single biggest attraction for people to join the lifestyle--both singles and couples.
The maths alone should be proof. There are hundreds of swinger websites. Each with thousands of profiles in their memberships. The larger websites have millions of members, and the biggest boasts over 42 million world-wide! Sociologist believe there are about 2-4 million couples in the North America who are swingers. Either by polling, by anecdote, or by searching the databases of swinger websites, the result is the same, single men seeking to do a threesome with a couple or couples seeking a threesome with either a male or a female. Nearly every profile of new swinger couples state that their desire is to find another person who would like to do a threesome with them. Sometimes it is to explore one of the members bisexuality. Sometimes it is to engage in some mild cuckold fantasy. Most frequently it is seen as the "tamest" way to introduce some spice into sex life. For the experienced swingers in group settings, with other couples or just singles, the sexual activity they engage in almost always includes a sexual act that can be classified as a threesome. The nomenclature for threesome sex is replete with names and combinations and positions for threesome sex that are almost unknown by the majority of people who have never had sex with more than one person at a time. Non-English speaking Wiki entries for "threesome" (or translation) almost always include these descriptions. [see German]
But no matter what, threesome sex is almost always the first vehicle for entering into swinging--if not in fact or in deed, then at least by preference or fantasy. "Threesome" and "Threesome Sex" could probably be divided into two different Wiki entries, but the average reader would have no understanding (or sympathy) as why there would be two dividing philosophies that would demand separate entries. For most, threesome is one concept, and that idea is overwhelmingly the sexual act itself. Just do an unrestricted search for the word threesome on the Internet and look at the kind of results you would likely see.
I understand that there is a cultural divide between polyamory and swinging. I've seen it for decades. The first emphasize the emotional bonds and the relationships and the degrees of commitment or love that exists in such relationships. The second are more likely to emphasize the sexual activity and its recreational and casual aspects. The result is a constant ontological turf war where the two sides fight over control of the language. Nonetheless, it is a disservice to have a encyclopedic entry on threesomes without a direct reference to swinging--particularly if the entry elaborates the concept with direct references to polyamory and Ménage à trois and mentions non-monogamous sex without a naming the central path by which such threesomes occur.
Clearly, when people want to know the Who, What, When, Where and Why of threesomes it must include swinging. It is a huge fantasy for many people, and it is the single most cited request in profiles of millions of swingers. And it is statistically the overwhelming experience of swingers and those that have casual threesome sex.
I have not reverted my reference to swinging in the central definition because I want to make sure we have an common understanding rather than engage in constant edits and rollbacks. My point is that you have stated that you want the definition to be more generalized yet are attempting to exclude the single largest category of millions of adherents who want, fantasize or regularly engage in (recreational) threesome sex. To have a definition that includes polyamory and Ménage à trois with only an oblique reference to swinging fails to give a proper definition. JVB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohannVanbeek ( talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
(NB: I have copy-edited this comment from my talk page, without specific permission. Triacylglyceride ( talk) 02:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC) )
Partly on grounds of notability (or lack thereof), I think this article would make more sense as a subsection of the group sex article.-- Ty rS 04:21, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Art_Manual_of_Style#Image_captions. Four out of the five current illustrations lack the minimum information (artist and title of work).-- Ty rS 04:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
What about an activity involving three people, cuddling in a non-sexual, but perhaps romantic fashion? Benjamin ( talk) 04:11, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
They are missing.
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The part about a devil triangle meaning the same thing as threesome is wrong. Citing one guy from Cosmo who used it incorrectly to mean a threesome is not adequate support. In threesome sex a triangle is a position. The three participants give oral to one another hence a rudimentary triangle being formed. — Preceding
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How do you add images? This site depicts the triangle sex position https://www.sexualpositionsfree.com/magtriansexp.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.227.112 ( talk) 02:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with listing these two: A Clockwork Orange, and Wolf of Wall Street.
The section should be corrected or deleted. If this "media" category is needed, then movies such as: Y Tu Mamá También (2001) should be listed and others which can be validated with references, not with links to a video on YouTube.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/best-film-sex-scenes-films-top-10-movies-mulholland-drive-moonlight-gods-own-country-blue-valentine-a8541826.html
I went back to the date / time / wikiedit where the text under Media was changed from something that was reasonable to the three films listed above and based on what the wiki editor wrote he wanted to add movies that were "much more famous" The editor wrote "Add much more famous movies" OK, these movies above are "much more famous" but that doesn't mean it is accurate to associate them with "threesomes". In actuality the films don't represent "threesomes" but rape, and orgies.
Before this edit was made the "Media" section had the following text of (not so famous movies) maybe more accurate in that they feature threesomes. I don't know, never saw the movies and don't feel like researching this any further but this is what was there before the above edit was made. "One of the few films with a threesome is the erotic thriller Wild Things (1998) and its sequels Wild Things 2 (2004), Wild Things: Diamonds in the Rough (2005) and Knock Knock (2015), all of which involved a threesome of one man and two women. Zoolander (2001), Ken Park (2002), The Dreamers (2003), Savages (2012) and On the Road (2012) all contained a threesome of two men and one woman."
Also, wikipedia has a "Category:Films_about_threesomes which lists movies that fit this category. /info/en/?search=Category:Films_about_threesomes
-- the eloquent peasant ( talk) 18:43, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
all 3 were made legal for the movie. 2601:19C:527F:A660:BC4B:A053:6ADC:8BE9 ( talk) 06:19, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
I made a post /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Threesome 199.127.56.123 ( talk) 19:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
millions of people are now talking about [it]is that it is related to crime gossip about a living individual. wumbolo ^^^ 14:42, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
“Devil’s Triangle” — which many believe refers to sex between two men and one woman. That legitimises it as an understood term for that concept, in the voice of a reliable source. The fact that it may have originated in an unreliable source becomes irrelevant at that point. What was an obscure term has become a mainstream term. It may or may not recede into obscurity again, but we can evaluate that in the future rather than looking into WP:CRYSTAL balls. — Amakuru ( talk) 14:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Isn't this the same concept? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:13, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
refers to sexual activity in which three persons take part simultaneously. -Crossroads- ( talk) 04:54, 7 December 2019 (UTC)