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Thousand Islands dressing or Thousand Island dressing? An article cited includes the s.
I don't know where the bit about Big Boys being dressed with Thousand Island came from, but it's wrong. They have tartar sauce, not Thousand Island.
Pstemari ( talk) 02:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Only at Frisch's. At other Big Boy's it's "big boy sauce" aka thousand island.00:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC) 2601:40C:8300:1D35:3C36:315D:1A31:AD35 ( talk) 00:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
"LaLonde substituted mayonnaise for the yogurt used in Russian dressing" It seems unlikely that yogurt was used in Russian dressing, as in the "first decades of the 20th century", yoghurt was virtually unknown in the US. -- Macrakis 23:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Sophia LaLonde was my great Aunt. The credit goes to her . Wife of a fisherman. I was told by my Grandma Priscilla Longton,It was a sandwich spread for the fisherman's sandwiches when they came to shore for lunch. — Preceding
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In the UK, "Marie Rose sauce" is a term synonymous with Thousand Island dressing, as used, for example, in prawn cocktails. I note that the article for Russian dressing appears to describe something almost identical; now, I have never heard the term "Russian dressing" used in the UK, nor the term "fry sauce" - is there really any difference or are they just synonyms for the same basic dressing of mayonnaise and ketchup with a few herbs and spices added? Would it be worthwhile merging (with redirects) all articles under one heading (preferably Thousand Island dressing) for the basic recipe, and just listing them as alternative terms with slight ingredient variations? DWaterson 19:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does the final section of this article simply become a giant advertisement for various fast food corporations. This would seem to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia.
110.164.237.165 ( talk) 08:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)n0w8st8s
I'm not sure if this warrants special mention for HK's Pizza Huts. In Pizza Hut's outlets in New Zealand (and presumably Australia) Thousand Island dressing (or something similar) is used for swirling on many varieties of pizza as well. -- JNZ 22:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Definitely warrants a mention. I'd be curious who came up with this terrible idea and how it caught on. It's half the pizza menu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.153.105.181 ( talk) 04:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Kids in my school always mix ketchup and mayo together and stir it until it's pink, earning it the nickname pink sauce by the kids. Should that go on the page? 68.196.8.115 ( talk) 17:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
The stories given regarding the origins of Thousand Island sauce are not conflicting at all. Indeed they could all be true. -- Gak ( talk) 11:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
An IP editor has repeatedly removed ketchup as a potential ingredient. Cookbooks which include ketchup in their ingredient list include:
Dozens more that attest ketchup as a possible ingredient. Jokestress ( talk) 06:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Per several comments above, I have moved the following passage from the article to here for discussion:
Use by various franchises and chains should probably be more comprehensive and sourced properly before being added back to the article. Jokestress ( talk) 16:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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There has been discussion about one of the sources, A Book of famous old New Orleans recipes used in the South for more than 200 years. Google Scholar lists an edition by JB Herndon, dated 1900 by Peerless Print. The Peerless cover scan in the article also says 1900. Another source, Pecans: The Story in a Nutshell, gives the date as 1900 or 1901. The Tremmel version appears to be a more recent reprint, probably from 1942. Per Publishers Weekly: "The Free French Relief Committee of 435 Park Avenue, New York, has republished "A Book of Famous Old New Orleans Recipes." Originally issued in 1900, the book has lost none of its flavor and, if anything, has improved with old age." This book attests Thousand Island dressing in its first edition. I am thus reverting.
Comments are welcome. Jokestress ( talk) 18:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
I thought the key ingredient in Thousand Islands was something FISHY?! Why do all the commercial brands list "caviar roe" among the ingredients?
If this is not so important (gauging by the fact that it's not even mentioned in the article!), what then distinguishes Thousand Islands from Russian? To say it is a "variant" is all fine and dandy, but what is the KEY DIFFERENCE?! 66.105.218.3 ( talk) 03:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Recently, I have seen vast improvements in this article in that most of the dubious citations have been removed and replaced with higher quality references, like an academic paper and some serious newspaper articles. Is this article getting close to the point in which it can be submitted to external review and advance to a higher classification?
1) Can all claims made in this article be supported by reputable references that could be accessed by any reviewer? Has anyone bothered to read the existing references?
2) Has all the information that could be gathered about its hazy origins been incorporated at this point? Are there any other plausible theories that still needs to be investigated?
3) There are 2 references in the article that are not available online. Has anyone actually looked at them? Does anyone has access to the The Oregon Countryman? If not, I suggest replacing this reference.
What would it take to get this article to the point in which it could be mentioned on the front page of WP? 50.195.224.153 ( talk) 01:48, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
The simplest preparation of Thousand Island Dressing is mayonnaise, ketchup, and pickle relish. (Mayonnaise and ketchup is French dressing, and adding more ketchup gives Russian dressing. Mayonnaise and Relish alone is tarter sauce.) Drsruli ( talk) 04:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I have inserted two citation needed tags for the Uses section of the main article. The reason being is because the citations given appear to be blogs, and therefore are questionable for use as references, and are probably inappropriate within the context of an objective and encyclopedic tone. 108.235.248.227 ( talk) 23:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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Thousand Islands dressing or Thousand Island dressing? An article cited includes the s.
I don't know where the bit about Big Boys being dressed with Thousand Island came from, but it's wrong. They have tartar sauce, not Thousand Island.
Pstemari ( talk) 02:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Only at Frisch's. At other Big Boy's it's "big boy sauce" aka thousand island.00:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC) 2601:40C:8300:1D35:3C36:315D:1A31:AD35 ( talk) 00:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
"LaLonde substituted mayonnaise for the yogurt used in Russian dressing" It seems unlikely that yogurt was used in Russian dressing, as in the "first decades of the 20th century", yoghurt was virtually unknown in the US. -- Macrakis 23:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Sophia LaLonde was my great Aunt. The credit goes to her . Wife of a fisherman. I was told by my Grandma Priscilla Longton,It was a sandwich spread for the fisherman's sandwiches when they came to shore for lunch. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
EllenWhitney (
talk •
contribs) 04:30, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
In the UK, "Marie Rose sauce" is a term synonymous with Thousand Island dressing, as used, for example, in prawn cocktails. I note that the article for Russian dressing appears to describe something almost identical; now, I have never heard the term "Russian dressing" used in the UK, nor the term "fry sauce" - is there really any difference or are they just synonyms for the same basic dressing of mayonnaise and ketchup with a few herbs and spices added? Would it be worthwhile merging (with redirects) all articles under one heading (preferably Thousand Island dressing) for the basic recipe, and just listing them as alternative terms with slight ingredient variations? DWaterson 19:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does the final section of this article simply become a giant advertisement for various fast food corporations. This would seem to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia.
110.164.237.165 ( talk) 08:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)n0w8st8s
I'm not sure if this warrants special mention for HK's Pizza Huts. In Pizza Hut's outlets in New Zealand (and presumably Australia) Thousand Island dressing (or something similar) is used for swirling on many varieties of pizza as well. -- JNZ 22:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Definitely warrants a mention. I'd be curious who came up with this terrible idea and how it caught on. It's half the pizza menu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.153.105.181 ( talk) 04:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Kids in my school always mix ketchup and mayo together and stir it until it's pink, earning it the nickname pink sauce by the kids. Should that go on the page? 68.196.8.115 ( talk) 17:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
The stories given regarding the origins of Thousand Island sauce are not conflicting at all. Indeed they could all be true. -- Gak ( talk) 11:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
An IP editor has repeatedly removed ketchup as a potential ingredient. Cookbooks which include ketchup in their ingredient list include:
Dozens more that attest ketchup as a possible ingredient. Jokestress ( talk) 06:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Per several comments above, I have moved the following passage from the article to here for discussion:
Use by various franchises and chains should probably be more comprehensive and sourced properly before being added back to the article. Jokestress ( talk) 16:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
References
An image used in this article,
File:One US pint of thousand island dressing.JPG, has been nominated for deletion at
Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests October 2011
Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.
This notification is provided by a Bot -- CommonsNotificationBot ( talk) 14:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC) |
There has been discussion about one of the sources, A Book of famous old New Orleans recipes used in the South for more than 200 years. Google Scholar lists an edition by JB Herndon, dated 1900 by Peerless Print. The Peerless cover scan in the article also says 1900. Another source, Pecans: The Story in a Nutshell, gives the date as 1900 or 1901. The Tremmel version appears to be a more recent reprint, probably from 1942. Per Publishers Weekly: "The Free French Relief Committee of 435 Park Avenue, New York, has republished "A Book of Famous Old New Orleans Recipes." Originally issued in 1900, the book has lost none of its flavor and, if anything, has improved with old age." This book attests Thousand Island dressing in its first edition. I am thus reverting.
Comments are welcome. Jokestress ( talk) 18:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
I thought the key ingredient in Thousand Islands was something FISHY?! Why do all the commercial brands list "caviar roe" among the ingredients?
If this is not so important (gauging by the fact that it's not even mentioned in the article!), what then distinguishes Thousand Islands from Russian? To say it is a "variant" is all fine and dandy, but what is the KEY DIFFERENCE?! 66.105.218.3 ( talk) 03:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Recently, I have seen vast improvements in this article in that most of the dubious citations have been removed and replaced with higher quality references, like an academic paper and some serious newspaper articles. Is this article getting close to the point in which it can be submitted to external review and advance to a higher classification?
1) Can all claims made in this article be supported by reputable references that could be accessed by any reviewer? Has anyone bothered to read the existing references?
2) Has all the information that could be gathered about its hazy origins been incorporated at this point? Are there any other plausible theories that still needs to be investigated?
3) There are 2 references in the article that are not available online. Has anyone actually looked at them? Does anyone has access to the The Oregon Countryman? If not, I suggest replacing this reference.
What would it take to get this article to the point in which it could be mentioned on the front page of WP? 50.195.224.153 ( talk) 01:48, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
The simplest preparation of Thousand Island Dressing is mayonnaise, ketchup, and pickle relish. (Mayonnaise and ketchup is French dressing, and adding more ketchup gives Russian dressing. Mayonnaise and Relish alone is tarter sauce.) Drsruli ( talk) 04:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I have inserted two citation needed tags for the Uses section of the main article. The reason being is because the citations given appear to be blogs, and therefore are questionable for use as references, and are probably inappropriate within the context of an objective and encyclopedic tone. 108.235.248.227 ( talk) 23:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)