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Seems odd to me that this article doesn't mention Islam at all, because partial limited versions of this prevailed at different periods of Muslim history (e.g. the defeat of the Mu`tazilites, the rise of Occasionalism, the influence of al-Ghazali, etc.). -- AnonMoos ( talk) 01:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
The first several book citations of this associate it strongly with Karl Barth. I think we need a lot of expansion along those lines. Mangoe ( talk) 21:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
We have a problem here already in that if the Ferre citation is any good (which I can't tell because there's no page number), it's unlikely that a general reference on philosophy of religion would make such POV statements if it were of any merit. But be that as it may, the issue of a theological veto is not limited to fundamentalists. I'm pretty sure that Catholic and Orthodox theology would admit of such a limitation on reason as well. Mangoe ( talk) 00:40, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
A lot of concerns have been raised about this article. Among other concerns:
I decided to look up the first of the two sources: Frederick Ferre's book Basic Modern Philosophy of Religion. The term comes up on page 22 of the book. It's also discussed in The Modern Predicament: A Study in the Philosophy of Religion by HJ Paton. I think the notion of a theological veto is a real one. It's a very small issue in philosophy of religion, and is lucky to get a paragraph or two in most Phil of religion books (hence the scant sourcing). The real issue I think is the name of this issue. The issue doesn't have a particularly well-established, widely-used name. "Theological veto" is more like slang, or an arbitrarily coined term for it.
At its core, the issue is raised as an objection to the enterprise of philosophy of religion as a whole. As such, I think in philosophy of religion, this topic ought to be a subsection of a larger article which attacks philosophy of religion as a whole. I'll think about this issue more.
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Seems odd to me that this article doesn't mention Islam at all, because partial limited versions of this prevailed at different periods of Muslim history (e.g. the defeat of the Mu`tazilites, the rise of Occasionalism, the influence of al-Ghazali, etc.). -- AnonMoos ( talk) 01:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
The first several book citations of this associate it strongly with Karl Barth. I think we need a lot of expansion along those lines. Mangoe ( talk) 21:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
We have a problem here already in that if the Ferre citation is any good (which I can't tell because there's no page number), it's unlikely that a general reference on philosophy of religion would make such POV statements if it were of any merit. But be that as it may, the issue of a theological veto is not limited to fundamentalists. I'm pretty sure that Catholic and Orthodox theology would admit of such a limitation on reason as well. Mangoe ( talk) 00:40, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
A lot of concerns have been raised about this article. Among other concerns:
I decided to look up the first of the two sources: Frederick Ferre's book Basic Modern Philosophy of Religion. The term comes up on page 22 of the book. It's also discussed in The Modern Predicament: A Study in the Philosophy of Religion by HJ Paton. I think the notion of a theological veto is a real one. It's a very small issue in philosophy of religion, and is lucky to get a paragraph or two in most Phil of religion books (hence the scant sourcing). The real issue I think is the name of this issue. The issue doesn't have a particularly well-established, widely-used name. "Theological veto" is more like slang, or an arbitrarily coined term for it.
At its core, the issue is raised as an objection to the enterprise of philosophy of religion as a whole. As such, I think in philosophy of religion, this topic ought to be a subsection of a larger article which attacks philosophy of religion as a whole. I'll think about this issue more.