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Requested move 14 December 2015
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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The result of the move request was: Move. We have a pretty clear consensus that this is the primary topic of the term with "The" included as part of the proper name. However, there were good points on the fact that "Queen of Ireland", sans "The", should continue redirecting to
Monarchy of Ireland, so the dab page will go to
Queen of Ireland (disambiguation).
Cúchullaint/
c 16:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)reply
– The 2015 film is the obvious
primary topic, in terms of usage, of "The Queen of Ireland" with the definite article. With respect to long-term significance, no other topic has substantially greater enduring notability or educational value (the
1938 religious tract and
1960 radio play were only added to the authors' articles yesterday). Other uses refer to "Queen of Ireland" rather than "The Queen of Ireland".
Our Lady of Knock is only infrequently referred to as "the [lowercase] Queen of Ireland", compared to "Our Lady, Queen of Ireland".
Scolaire (
talk) 11:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support: appears to be Primary Topic with "The". Needs an {{other uses}} hatnote added to the film article after move, to point to the dab page.
PamD 14:31, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Plus, if instead of your link, you click
here (limiting the search to books published in the last 45 years), you get apparently less than 50, but in fact less than fifteen books, only seven of which actually contain the phrase "the queen of Ireland" (lowercase), and none of which give significant coverage of the topic "the queen of Ireland". Figures like 40,000 are easy to get with Google Books, but they often mean nothing.
Scolaire (
talk) 17:22, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Those examples wire, scream, crown, economist, citadel, are not things where there is one person defined by of country X.
Support per nom, it's the obvious primary topic.
BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:23, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support Agree with all previous supporters' points. 'Queen of Ireland' is a more suitable name for the disambiguation page.
1-555-confide (
talk) 18:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.
Snappy (
talk) 17:22, 15 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose, redirectThe Queen of Ireland to
Monarchy of Ireland, and rename the existing page to
Queen of Ireland (disambiguation). Pretty obscure documentary against actual title used by many people for centuries (and of course usually used with a definite article, despite what our article is titled)? No contest. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 16:20, 16 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Requested move 14 December 2015
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move. We have a pretty clear consensus that this is the primary topic of the term with "The" included as part of the proper name. However, there were good points on the fact that "Queen of Ireland", sans "The", should continue redirecting to
Monarchy of Ireland, so the dab page will go to
Queen of Ireland (disambiguation).
Cúchullaint/
c 16:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)reply
– The 2015 film is the obvious
primary topic, in terms of usage, of "The Queen of Ireland" with the definite article. With respect to long-term significance, no other topic has substantially greater enduring notability or educational value (the
1938 religious tract and
1960 radio play were only added to the authors' articles yesterday). Other uses refer to "Queen of Ireland" rather than "The Queen of Ireland".
Our Lady of Knock is only infrequently referred to as "the [lowercase] Queen of Ireland", compared to "Our Lady, Queen of Ireland".
Scolaire (
talk) 11:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support: appears to be Primary Topic with "The". Needs an {{other uses}} hatnote added to the film article after move, to point to the dab page.
PamD 14:31, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Plus, if instead of your link, you click
here (limiting the search to books published in the last 45 years), you get apparently less than 50, but in fact less than fifteen books, only seven of which actually contain the phrase "the queen of Ireland" (lowercase), and none of which give significant coverage of the topic "the queen of Ireland". Figures like 40,000 are easy to get with Google Books, but they often mean nothing.
Scolaire (
talk) 17:22, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Those examples wire, scream, crown, economist, citadel, are not things where there is one person defined by of country X.
Support per nom, it's the obvious primary topic.
BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:23, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support Agree with all previous supporters' points. 'Queen of Ireland' is a more suitable name for the disambiguation page.
1-555-confide (
talk) 18:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.
Snappy (
talk) 17:22, 15 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose, redirectThe Queen of Ireland to
Monarchy of Ireland, and rename the existing page to
Queen of Ireland (disambiguation). Pretty obscure documentary against actual title used by many people for centuries (and of course usually used with a definite article, despite what our article is titled)? No contest. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 16:20, 16 December 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.