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This review is transcluded from Talk:The Hustler (film)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
On the whole, the article is in good shape. It deals with all the major aspects of the film. While its missing distribution info, that isn't an issue for the GA nom (though it should be considered if the primary editors plan to later go for FAC). The biggest thing I noticed as issues with the prose, as noted below. It also has a few minor MoS issues, but nothing super major.
-- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 06:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Updated 01:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Question I'm currently reading the article from the bottom up, and I haven't yet made it past "Notes". According to WP:LAYOUT, the section heading "notes" is for footnotes, or additional commentary on the Wikipedia content. The list of "notes" here seems to me to be more appropriately called "references". The section called "references" should, as a list of books that were used in the article's formation, be called Further reading. I'll continue towards copyediting, on glance the prose looks very good. Does anyone disagree with my assessment of section headings? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
The wikipedia article states incorrectly:
"Eddie returns to challenge Fats again, putting up his entire $3,000 stake on a single game. He wins game after game, beating Fats so badly that Fats is forced to quit. Bert demands a share of Eddie's winnings and threatens Eddie over the issue, but Eddie, invoking the memory of Sarah, shames Bert into giving up his claim. However, Bert warns Eddie never to walk into a big-time pool hall again"
He does not shame Bert into giving up his claim. Bert is beyond getting shamed. Eddie tells Bert that his boys are going to have to kill him for the money or else he will heal from their beating and come back and kill him (Bert). Bert decides to let him go with the money and warns him never to walk into a big time pool hall again. He finishes by telling Fats that he is a great player and Fats returns the compliment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.143.158 ( talk) 20:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I watched the movie on television on the PBS channel. It appears that what is being played on PBS is an edited version. Maybe this point can be added by somebody into the article. Unless I changed channels or just wasnt paying attention, I really didnt see any scenes where the Bert character attacks or rapes the girl. I dont recall Eddie's speech at the end about Bert's men either letting him go or killing him. I'll have to get a DVD of this movie, and see if there was content edited out, for television. Marc S. Dania Fl. 206.192.35.125 ( talk) 13:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
" Felson sells his soul and betrays the one person who really knows and loves him in a Faustian pact to gain character." A Faustian pact is never undertaken to "gain character," but rather to gain worldly success. Gaining character comes later, when the debt is called in.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Orthotox ( talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
There is nothing humiliating in the sexual encounter of Sarah and Bert; in fact it is not filmed at all. I replaced that opinion with the facts: he tries to seduce her, she refuses, then she changes her mind. I think the sexual encounter represents just the step she needs to take to destroy her love for Eddie, to go on her path of self destruction, but it is my opinion, unsourced, so I am not putting it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.173.169.105 ( talk) 00:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
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The article claims "... only Minnesota Fats, who never handles money himself ...", which is not true. On multiple occasions Fats throws money on the table when he loses. See this clip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthur.Goldberg ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to The Hustler. Per consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 05:17, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
The Hustler (film) → The Hustler (1961 film) – Due to the existence of The Hustler (1920 film), the main title header The Hustler (film) represents incomplete disambiguation and should redirect to the Hustler#Films dab page. It may be also taken into account that The Hustler (1920 film) is German and its original title is Der Falschspieler which, according to Google Translate, means The Cheater. As a possible point of interest, there is apparently some form of German linguistic or thematic distinction between the use of the same term to describe the protagonist of the 1961 film, who is not portrayed as a cheater, since the 1961 film's German title is Haie der Großstadt which, according to Google Translate, means Big City Sharks. Google translation of The Hustler is given as simply Der Hustler. As another somewhat related disambiguation point, the Hustler#Films dab page also lists 2010's The Hustlers (film), 2019's Hustlers (film) and the redirect Hustlers (2013 film). If consensus skews toward leaving The Hustler (film) as is and moving The Hustler (1920 film) to Der Falschspieler, I would also support such a move. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
His article in wikipedia credits him as only "limping attendant" although I believe someone calls him "Henry" -- many Blacks in this movie (like Findley's servants) but not one word is spoken by any Black actor. 1961 USA. 50.230.251.244 ( talk) 19:05, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Jake played "Mack" who "always trusts" Sarah when she's broke -- she asks him, "Don't you trust me, Mack?" and he replied, "Check." 50.230.251.244 ( talk) 19:11, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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On the whole, the article is in good shape. It deals with all the major aspects of the film. While its missing distribution info, that isn't an issue for the GA nom (though it should be considered if the primary editors plan to later go for FAC). The biggest thing I noticed as issues with the prose, as noted below. It also has a few minor MoS issues, but nothing super major.
-- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 06:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Updated 01:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Question I'm currently reading the article from the bottom up, and I haven't yet made it past "Notes". According to WP:LAYOUT, the section heading "notes" is for footnotes, or additional commentary on the Wikipedia content. The list of "notes" here seems to me to be more appropriately called "references". The section called "references" should, as a list of books that were used in the article's formation, be called Further reading. I'll continue towards copyediting, on glance the prose looks very good. Does anyone disagree with my assessment of section headings? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
The wikipedia article states incorrectly:
"Eddie returns to challenge Fats again, putting up his entire $3,000 stake on a single game. He wins game after game, beating Fats so badly that Fats is forced to quit. Bert demands a share of Eddie's winnings and threatens Eddie over the issue, but Eddie, invoking the memory of Sarah, shames Bert into giving up his claim. However, Bert warns Eddie never to walk into a big-time pool hall again"
He does not shame Bert into giving up his claim. Bert is beyond getting shamed. Eddie tells Bert that his boys are going to have to kill him for the money or else he will heal from their beating and come back and kill him (Bert). Bert decides to let him go with the money and warns him never to walk into a big time pool hall again. He finishes by telling Fats that he is a great player and Fats returns the compliment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.143.158 ( talk) 20:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I watched the movie on television on the PBS channel. It appears that what is being played on PBS is an edited version. Maybe this point can be added by somebody into the article. Unless I changed channels or just wasnt paying attention, I really didnt see any scenes where the Bert character attacks or rapes the girl. I dont recall Eddie's speech at the end about Bert's men either letting him go or killing him. I'll have to get a DVD of this movie, and see if there was content edited out, for television. Marc S. Dania Fl. 206.192.35.125 ( talk) 13:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
" Felson sells his soul and betrays the one person who really knows and loves him in a Faustian pact to gain character." A Faustian pact is never undertaken to "gain character," but rather to gain worldly success. Gaining character comes later, when the debt is called in.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Orthotox ( talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
There is nothing humiliating in the sexual encounter of Sarah and Bert; in fact it is not filmed at all. I replaced that opinion with the facts: he tries to seduce her, she refuses, then she changes her mind. I think the sexual encounter represents just the step she needs to take to destroy her love for Eddie, to go on her path of self destruction, but it is my opinion, unsourced, so I am not putting it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.173.169.105 ( talk) 00:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
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The article claims "... only Minnesota Fats, who never handles money himself ...", which is not true. On multiple occasions Fats throws money on the table when he loses. See this clip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthur.Goldberg ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to The Hustler. Per consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 05:17, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
The Hustler (film) → The Hustler (1961 film) – Due to the existence of The Hustler (1920 film), the main title header The Hustler (film) represents incomplete disambiguation and should redirect to the Hustler#Films dab page. It may be also taken into account that The Hustler (1920 film) is German and its original title is Der Falschspieler which, according to Google Translate, means The Cheater. As a possible point of interest, there is apparently some form of German linguistic or thematic distinction between the use of the same term to describe the protagonist of the 1961 film, who is not portrayed as a cheater, since the 1961 film's German title is Haie der Großstadt which, according to Google Translate, means Big City Sharks. Google translation of The Hustler is given as simply Der Hustler. As another somewhat related disambiguation point, the Hustler#Films dab page also lists 2010's The Hustlers (film), 2019's Hustlers (film) and the redirect Hustlers (2013 film). If consensus skews toward leaving The Hustler (film) as is and moving The Hustler (1920 film) to Der Falschspieler, I would also support such a move. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
His article in wikipedia credits him as only "limping attendant" although I believe someone calls him "Henry" -- many Blacks in this movie (like Findley's servants) but not one word is spoken by any Black actor. 1961 USA. 50.230.251.244 ( talk) 19:05, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Jake played "Mack" who "always trusts" Sarah when she's broke -- she asks him, "Don't you trust me, Mack?" and he replied, "Check." 50.230.251.244 ( talk) 19:11, 23 December 2022 (UTC)