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The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 01:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
The Hunting Party (album) → The Hunting Party (Linkin Park album) – This album ["It’s easy to speculate that “The Hunting Party” could be the name of the album" - no confirmed source that this will be the title] won't be released until June 2014. It cannot claim to be only topic per WP:DAB when en.wp already mentions The Hunting Party original soundtrack album by British composer Rolfe Kent to Richard Gere's The Hunting Party (2007 film). In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
I amended RM to include ["It’s easy to speculate that.."] per discussion following. In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:17, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
What I know, there is not any official confirmation about the name of the album. Therefore I would suggest to rename it to "Sixth studio album (Linkin Park)" or just make a redirect until the name is confirmed. -- Stryn ( talk) 14:23, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
This source claims to have listened to much of the album, and calls the album as "The Hunting Party". They know many track names, so it makes sense that they'd know the album name too. Sergecross73 msg me 12:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
So, I didn't want to edit war, and I figure this will keep coming up, so looking for consensus on this. The tracklist, as portrayed here, should be removed, because its unsourced, and its numbering seems to suggest an order that hasn't been revealed yet. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 17:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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Please change the image for the album to this picture ( https://s3.amazonaws.com/vice_asset_uploader/files/1397053470LP_Cover.jpg). This has been confirmed as the cover for the album. XxEvilFacex ( talk) 16:09, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
The tracklist for the album is included by me. The reference is from this site http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/linkin_park_announce_new_album_the_hunting_party_unveil_cover_and_release_date.html The album list was also uploaded in a facebook page for the album. Chopra.nitin96 ( talk) 09:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
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In the second paragraph, where it says: "the band's first featured musicians on a studio album." It's been bugging me for a long, long time. The proper grammar would be: "it's the band's first studio album featuring musicians from other bands." 2600:1007:B12E:1D62:DD83:7A31:AA1D:2F0B ( talk) 20:53, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
The new song Wastelands is a promotional single and not a single! It is streamed via radio! It has a lyric video doesn't mean it is a single! Lies Greed Misery also had a lyric video but it is a promotional single! Please someone edit it!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.117.134.29 ( talk) 14:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes I agree with you! This is wrong! And the same goes with Rebellion. The theory which these people follow is the song which has a lyric video is a single! Please edit this! Naam toh suna hi hoga ( talk) 07:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Actually it is a single! It was released as a digital single in Australia!
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Rebellion and Final Masquerade are real singles, not promotional singles. User:Skylar3214 5:53, 9 June 2014
I think there should be a separate page for the DVD Video Album just like Living Things + and A Thousand Suns+. Please give a suggestions. Chopra.nitin96 ( talk) 13:13, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
This is proof that "Final Masquerade" is actually the real single from this album. Fifth New Linkin Park Single User:Skylar3214 5:53, 9 June 2014
Then, you're lying too, and yes, it "does mean that it's a single". You're clearly operating under a false pretense. Now, you're starting to tempt me, both of you. User:Skylar3214 8:02, 9 June 2014
I don't really care. You both lied to me for this. You want a better resource than mine, go do it yourself! User:Skylar3214 8:20, 9 June 2014
Yo girls, " Final Masquerade" was released to the Australian Google Play store today as a single. Guess this discounts this entire argument now. RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 09:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
User:RazorEyeEdits, Google Play is not an exclusive of Australia, you know? The single is out worldwide -- Zack Tartufo ( talk) 11:29, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
I doubt that the status of being released as an individual song on Google Play makes it an official single. So far the songs with definite single status are Guilty All the Same and Until It's Gone, the other three songs individually released seem to be promotional singles if anything, is there any other reference other than Google Play? SilentDan297 talk 12:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Put the other three songs back to the way it was! They've already been confirmed as official singles! They're not PROMOTIONAL SINGLES!!! " Wastelands", " Rebellion", and " Final Masquerade" are real singles! User:Skylar3214 11:17, 10 June 2014
Everyone, the OFFICIAL SITE OF LINKIN PARK is a reference apart from Google Play. Your "promotional singles" are just normal singles as a fact and now even for the band itself, so undo your nonsense edits. -- Zack Tartufo ( talk) 16:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Is not already a secondary source Google Play?? -- Zack Tartufo ( talk) 20:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Guys, a single is a music release, NOT a status, as SilentDan297 had mistakenly put it earlier. It usually has one track or more, and it usually has a play length of around 5 minutes or so. You don't release a song and have a criteria list to judge whether or not it is a single is or not; you just release a single, just like you would release an EP or Album. All three singles were released as digital downloads. "Wastelands" in particular was given a radio release. Simple as that. Don't know why you people are arguing over this. They're just singles. I'm surprised you people haven't come up with the idea that The Hunting Party isn't an album, because this is what essentially this argument is the equivalent to. RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 22:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
There is seriously no need to repost the links once again, but in case you wanted to see the sources for the four millionth time, here's the " Wastelands", " Rebellion" and " Final Masquerade" singles available to purchase on Google Play. I still don't understand why you continue to believe no such singles exist, even when they're up for purchase, and many people have been shown the source many times already. RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 03:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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Please change the genre Hard Rock and Rap rock to Alternative Metal, Punk Rock, Hard Rock, and Rap Metal, because the majority of the songs are specified to these kinds of genre, and described it a a whole. Here are the reliable sources: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/12/linkin-park-the-hunting-party-review and http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/62680/Linkin-Park-The-Hunting-Party/ Thank you! Ashskie ( talk) 04:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Someone please add the credits of the album from the link given below. http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-hunting-party-mw0002664226/credits Golu7276 ( talk) 10:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed there has been edit warring over the addition and removal of several genres. Needless to say, that is very unhelpful. As such, any further addition/removal of genre without proper consensus will not be tolerated. Discuss and gain consensus. Thanks. — Dark 03:44, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
We seem to be neglecting the 12 already reliable sources used in the albums 'Professional Ratings' box in the ' Critical reception' section. These are the genres I have found on each page (excluding Metacritic) based on the reviews and not the listed genres that go with it:
The other sources haven't been mentioned since they don't even state any genres, but to me, Hard Rock should definitely be a key genre on this article, along with Alternative Rock/Metal as they are also commonly mentioned, the rest seem to be the odd ones out and should instead be mentioned in the Critical reception section. SilentDan297 talk 11:18, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I'll go ahead and notify some of the editors of this article. @ RazorEyeEdits: @ JDC808: @ 2016pearsoow: @ Sergecross73: @ Gbuvn: @ Jacob Sudduth: @ SilentDan297:
The following sources call it an alternative metal album: http://www.laut.de/Linkin-Park/Alben/The-Hunting-Party-93468 http://hardrockhaven.net/online/2014/06/linkin-park-the-hunting-party-cd-review/ http://mindequalsblown.net/reviews/linkin-park-the-hunting-party http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/06/album-review-linkin-park-the-hunting-party/
Would you support the addition of alternative metal to the infobox, alongside hard rock and rap rock (both of which are also sourced in the article) using any of these sources? Thrown in either a support or oppose for the addition of the genre, based on the sources I listed above. I'll start first to show why I support this.
Support: Based on the evidence for Mind Equals Blown being reliable ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_45#Mind_Equals_Blown_as_reliable_source). Alternative metal is not mentioned in the prose of that review, but in it's own section. But I don't see this being like Allmusic's sidebar. The reason Allmusic's sidebar shouldn't be used is because sometimes contradicts the prose (as stated at Wikipedia:ALBUM/SOURCES#Sources to avoid. And that source only lists one genre too, whereas AllMusic usually lists multiple genres. Update: Now the CoS review (a site actually listed at WP:ALBUM/SOURCES) explicitly supports alternative metal in the prose with the line "...this is far more an alt metal record than anything else." Kokoro20 ( talk) 08:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: I don't even know how we could have this argument. You've got sources and the album doesn't even sound like a hard rock album. Plus, none of the singles that have been released off the album have been classified as hard rock. Soooo. I don't understand how an album can be hard rock if there are no hard rock songs on it. Jacob Sudduth — Preceding undated comment added 12:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: Even if they are not considered reliable, I believe if genres are constantly being referenced across the pages, it becomes more relevant, and since we have 4 pages describing the album as alternative metal, I think it should be mentioned along with hard rock. SilentDan297 talk 11:18, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: Consequence of Sound is reliable music website per Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources and it clearly labels the album as alt metal. I think its inclusion is completely fine per this source. Myxomatosis57 ( talk) 13:36, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: Pretty much everything is already said. Gbuvn ( talk) 14:55, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
This issue with album release dates(which seems to be an issue with many pages) needs to be fixed. This "first" release date idea is dumb. The info box should list the OFFICIAL release date as stated by the band and the recording studio. In the case of The Hunting Party the OFFICIAL release date as stated by Linkin Park and Warner Bros Records is Tuesday June 17th, 2014. The fact that some countries might have an early release date should not matter because those countries are not the source of the material. Every official mention of this album such as Linkin Park's web site, Warner Bros Records web site, Linkin Park's official Facebook page and Linkin Park's official YouTube channel ALL say June 17th so it makes the most sense to use that date. -- Jimv1983 ( talk) 03:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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Track 4 "The Summoning" and track 10 "Drawbar" are instrumentals. Source: I have the album. Dawn Of Solace ( talk) 04:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
According to Allmusic the album is produced by bandmembers but in addition it is produced by Rob Cavallo and Emile Haynie. The album is said to be self produced but here there are extra producers. My question is "Is this correct?" Because Allmusic is a reliable source. Please share your ideas! Mike:Golu · [ ChitChat ] 08:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
-- 72.251.108.80 ( talk) 00:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC) Its obviously Nu Metal, Thrash Metal, Alternative Metal, and Alternative Rock. Its's not Hard Rock in any way it's too aggresive. Please change it because what you have down is misleading. -- 72.251.108.80 ( talk) 00:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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Please change the genre Hard rock and rap rock to Heavy metal, alternative metal, and rap metal.
121.54.83.69 ( talk) 08:57, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done The genres are currently under discussion - see the Edit warring over genre of album section above - please contribute any reliable sources you can cite to that discussion. The genres will not be changed until consensus has been reached. Arjayay ( talk) 09:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Instead of Linkin Park for all the track, how would this do:
All tracks produced by Brad Delson and Mike Shinoda, except " Wastelands" co-produced by Rob Cavallo, and " Final Masquerade" co-produced by Emile Haynie.
All tracks are written by Linkin Park, with additional co-writers listed below
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
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1. | "Keys to the Kingdom" | 3:38 | |
2. | "All for Nothing" (featuring Page Hamilton) | 3:33 | |
3. | " Guilty All the Same" (featuring Rakim) | William Griffin | 5:56 |
4. | "The Summoning" | 1:00 | |
5. | "War" | 2:11 | |
6. | " Wastelands" | 3:15 | |
7. | " Until It's Gone" | 3:53 | |
8. | " Rebellion" (featuring Daron Malakian) | Daron Malakian | 3:44 |
9. | "Mark the Graves" | 5:05 | |
10. | "Drawbar" (featuring Tom Morello) | 2:46 | |
11. | " Final Masquerade" | 3:37 | |
12. | "A Line in the Sand" | 6:35 | |
Total length: | 45:12 |
Mike:Golu · [ ChitChat ] 06:13, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
-- 72.251.108.51 ( talk) 10:30, 23 June 2014 (UTC) Thank you for adding Alt metal. But you still have Rock and Hard Rock there. Those genres are misleading. Nu Metal is the overall sound of this album. Look at what Nu Metal is then change he genre because some of you people obviously don't understand what any of these genres are otherwise this would have been changed a long time ago. Nu Metal should go first, then Thrash Metal, then Alternative Metal. Thank and please change it right this time. -- 72.251.108.51 ( talk) 10:30, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/linkin-park-the-hunting-party
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Linkin_Park-nom_album-The_Hunting_Party-l-en.html
Better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.108.51 ( talk) 11:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
In the CD there is a note from the band which could be included as a quote in the background section. Should we add this:
We are not SATISFIED.
We are HUNGRY.
HUNGRY for the VISCERAL. CATHARTIC. INSPIRED. DEFIANT.
We are not HEROES or ANTI-HEROES.
We carry only the FLAG, that is our own.
Now is not the time to look back to see if anyone is FOLLOWING.
Now is the time to CHARGE FORWARD into the UNKNOWN.
THE HUNTING PARTY.
— Linkin Park
Mike:Golu · [ ChitChat ] 10:21, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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Please add heavy metal as the genre of the album, it is clearly noticeable in the album as a whole. Thank you. 121.54.83.69 ( talk) 15:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done Please read the section Edit warring over genre of album above, for the discussion on this. - Arjayay ( talk) 16:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
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The songs in the album are actually Heavy metal, rap metal, and thrash metal, please add this category to avoid confusing. 121.54.83.69 ( talk) 02:51, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
-- 72.251.108.163 ( talk) 03:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC) HAVE YOU PEOPLE EVEN HEARD THE ALBUM?!?!?! LISTEN TO IT AND COMPARE IT TO THE GENRES OF Nu metal AND Thrash metal. LINKIN PARK EVEN SAID THAT THEY TOOK INFLUENCE FROM Thrash metal AND HARDCORE PUNK ON THIS ALBUM. EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT ONHOW IT'S THE HEAVIEST ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE. EVEN THE BAND IS SAYING IT. PLEASE CHANE THE ALBUM GENRE TO Nu metal, Thrash metal. tHANK YOU FOR LISTENING. -- 72.251.108.163 ( talk) 03:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
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There are five singles for "The Hunting Party", in the article, only 3 are mentioned, "Wastelands" and "Rebellion" are missing, please add these singles to the album's ones. Source : http://www.lpassociation.com/music/ 78.238.84.76 ( talk) 12:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Not done See prior discussions. Some appear to just be promotional singles, no sources said otherwise. A fansite won't change that. Sergecross73 msg me 13:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
The album is certification is updated every week and now it currently holds a certifications of 4x Platinum, with the sales of 24,000 copies digital. The current certification is 3x Platinum with 18,000 sales. Next week it would be 4x Platinum. The sales of CD are not yet known, because they are not recorded. Mike:Golu · [ Confidential message ] 11:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I noticed a recent edit that changed this to an official single infobox. Before I immediately objected, I noticed the editor had left a note saying it was in the singles section for the Linkin Park website.
http://www.linkinpark.com/releases#/type/singles http://www.linkinpark.com/releases/linkin_park/wastelands
Indeed it is.
I wonder, shall we put this one in? If we do, we should change "Rebellion" to its original date as well. If the band says it is, in my opinion*, that satisfies it being in the list, at least. ( *There are probably guidelines to this that I don't know.) DannyMusicEditor ( talk) 19:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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I will be doing this. — Yash! (Y) 21:15, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I will go through References tonight. It looks good to go. BTW, on a side note, I loved their electronic work ("Iridescent" and "Waiting For The End" are my favourites by them). I am not really a metal fan but I enjoyed "In The End", "Numb" and few others. Didn't really like this album, what about you? — Yash! (Y) 10:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
I will deal with the audio tonight. — Yash! (Y) 13:38, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Nice work guys! Pleased to see it made GA. DannyMusicEditor ( talk) 01:40, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 01:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
The Hunting Party (album) → The Hunting Party (Linkin Park album) – This album ["It’s easy to speculate that “The Hunting Party” could be the name of the album" - no confirmed source that this will be the title] won't be released until June 2014. It cannot claim to be only topic per WP:DAB when en.wp already mentions The Hunting Party original soundtrack album by British composer Rolfe Kent to Richard Gere's The Hunting Party (2007 film). In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
I amended RM to include ["It’s easy to speculate that.."] per discussion following. In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:17, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
What I know, there is not any official confirmation about the name of the album. Therefore I would suggest to rename it to "Sixth studio album (Linkin Park)" or just make a redirect until the name is confirmed. -- Stryn ( talk) 14:23, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
This source claims to have listened to much of the album, and calls the album as "The Hunting Party". They know many track names, so it makes sense that they'd know the album name too. Sergecross73 msg me 12:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
So, I didn't want to edit war, and I figure this will keep coming up, so looking for consensus on this. The tracklist, as portrayed here, should be removed, because its unsourced, and its numbering seems to suggest an order that hasn't been revealed yet. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 17:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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Please change the image for the album to this picture ( https://s3.amazonaws.com/vice_asset_uploader/files/1397053470LP_Cover.jpg). This has been confirmed as the cover for the album. XxEvilFacex ( talk) 16:09, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
The tracklist for the album is included by me. The reference is from this site http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/linkin_park_announce_new_album_the_hunting_party_unveil_cover_and_release_date.html The album list was also uploaded in a facebook page for the album. Chopra.nitin96 ( talk) 09:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
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In the second paragraph, where it says: "the band's first featured musicians on a studio album." It's been bugging me for a long, long time. The proper grammar would be: "it's the band's first studio album featuring musicians from other bands." 2600:1007:B12E:1D62:DD83:7A31:AA1D:2F0B ( talk) 20:53, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
The new song Wastelands is a promotional single and not a single! It is streamed via radio! It has a lyric video doesn't mean it is a single! Lies Greed Misery also had a lyric video but it is a promotional single! Please someone edit it!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.117.134.29 ( talk) 14:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes I agree with you! This is wrong! And the same goes with Rebellion. The theory which these people follow is the song which has a lyric video is a single! Please edit this! Naam toh suna hi hoga ( talk) 07:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Actually it is a single! It was released as a digital single in Australia!
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Rebellion and Final Masquerade are real singles, not promotional singles. User:Skylar3214 5:53, 9 June 2014
I think there should be a separate page for the DVD Video Album just like Living Things + and A Thousand Suns+. Please give a suggestions. Chopra.nitin96 ( talk) 13:13, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
This is proof that "Final Masquerade" is actually the real single from this album. Fifth New Linkin Park Single User:Skylar3214 5:53, 9 June 2014
Then, you're lying too, and yes, it "does mean that it's a single". You're clearly operating under a false pretense. Now, you're starting to tempt me, both of you. User:Skylar3214 8:02, 9 June 2014
I don't really care. You both lied to me for this. You want a better resource than mine, go do it yourself! User:Skylar3214 8:20, 9 June 2014
Yo girls, " Final Masquerade" was released to the Australian Google Play store today as a single. Guess this discounts this entire argument now. RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 09:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
User:RazorEyeEdits, Google Play is not an exclusive of Australia, you know? The single is out worldwide -- Zack Tartufo ( talk) 11:29, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
I doubt that the status of being released as an individual song on Google Play makes it an official single. So far the songs with definite single status are Guilty All the Same and Until It's Gone, the other three songs individually released seem to be promotional singles if anything, is there any other reference other than Google Play? SilentDan297 talk 12:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Put the other three songs back to the way it was! They've already been confirmed as official singles! They're not PROMOTIONAL SINGLES!!! " Wastelands", " Rebellion", and " Final Masquerade" are real singles! User:Skylar3214 11:17, 10 June 2014
Everyone, the OFFICIAL SITE OF LINKIN PARK is a reference apart from Google Play. Your "promotional singles" are just normal singles as a fact and now even for the band itself, so undo your nonsense edits. -- Zack Tartufo ( talk) 16:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Is not already a secondary source Google Play?? -- Zack Tartufo ( talk) 20:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Guys, a single is a music release, NOT a status, as SilentDan297 had mistakenly put it earlier. It usually has one track or more, and it usually has a play length of around 5 minutes or so. You don't release a song and have a criteria list to judge whether or not it is a single is or not; you just release a single, just like you would release an EP or Album. All three singles were released as digital downloads. "Wastelands" in particular was given a radio release. Simple as that. Don't know why you people are arguing over this. They're just singles. I'm surprised you people haven't come up with the idea that The Hunting Party isn't an album, because this is what essentially this argument is the equivalent to. RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 22:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
There is seriously no need to repost the links once again, but in case you wanted to see the sources for the four millionth time, here's the " Wastelands", " Rebellion" and " Final Masquerade" singles available to purchase on Google Play. I still don't understand why you continue to believe no such singles exist, even when they're up for purchase, and many people have been shown the source many times already. RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 03:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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Please change the genre Hard Rock and Rap rock to Alternative Metal, Punk Rock, Hard Rock, and Rap Metal, because the majority of the songs are specified to these kinds of genre, and described it a a whole. Here are the reliable sources: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/12/linkin-park-the-hunting-party-review and http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/62680/Linkin-Park-The-Hunting-Party/ Thank you! Ashskie ( talk) 04:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Someone please add the credits of the album from the link given below. http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-hunting-party-mw0002664226/credits Golu7276 ( talk) 10:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed there has been edit warring over the addition and removal of several genres. Needless to say, that is very unhelpful. As such, any further addition/removal of genre without proper consensus will not be tolerated. Discuss and gain consensus. Thanks. — Dark 03:44, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
We seem to be neglecting the 12 already reliable sources used in the albums 'Professional Ratings' box in the ' Critical reception' section. These are the genres I have found on each page (excluding Metacritic) based on the reviews and not the listed genres that go with it:
The other sources haven't been mentioned since they don't even state any genres, but to me, Hard Rock should definitely be a key genre on this article, along with Alternative Rock/Metal as they are also commonly mentioned, the rest seem to be the odd ones out and should instead be mentioned in the Critical reception section. SilentDan297 talk 11:18, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I'll go ahead and notify some of the editors of this article. @ RazorEyeEdits: @ JDC808: @ 2016pearsoow: @ Sergecross73: @ Gbuvn: @ Jacob Sudduth: @ SilentDan297:
The following sources call it an alternative metal album: http://www.laut.de/Linkin-Park/Alben/The-Hunting-Party-93468 http://hardrockhaven.net/online/2014/06/linkin-park-the-hunting-party-cd-review/ http://mindequalsblown.net/reviews/linkin-park-the-hunting-party http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/06/album-review-linkin-park-the-hunting-party/
Would you support the addition of alternative metal to the infobox, alongside hard rock and rap rock (both of which are also sourced in the article) using any of these sources? Thrown in either a support or oppose for the addition of the genre, based on the sources I listed above. I'll start first to show why I support this.
Support: Based on the evidence for Mind Equals Blown being reliable ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_45#Mind_Equals_Blown_as_reliable_source). Alternative metal is not mentioned in the prose of that review, but in it's own section. But I don't see this being like Allmusic's sidebar. The reason Allmusic's sidebar shouldn't be used is because sometimes contradicts the prose (as stated at Wikipedia:ALBUM/SOURCES#Sources to avoid. And that source only lists one genre too, whereas AllMusic usually lists multiple genres. Update: Now the CoS review (a site actually listed at WP:ALBUM/SOURCES) explicitly supports alternative metal in the prose with the line "...this is far more an alt metal record than anything else." Kokoro20 ( talk) 08:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: I don't even know how we could have this argument. You've got sources and the album doesn't even sound like a hard rock album. Plus, none of the singles that have been released off the album have been classified as hard rock. Soooo. I don't understand how an album can be hard rock if there are no hard rock songs on it. Jacob Sudduth — Preceding undated comment added 12:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: Even if they are not considered reliable, I believe if genres are constantly being referenced across the pages, it becomes more relevant, and since we have 4 pages describing the album as alternative metal, I think it should be mentioned along with hard rock. SilentDan297 talk 11:18, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: Consequence of Sound is reliable music website per Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources and it clearly labels the album as alt metal. I think its inclusion is completely fine per this source. Myxomatosis57 ( talk) 13:36, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Support: Pretty much everything is already said. Gbuvn ( talk) 14:55, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
This issue with album release dates(which seems to be an issue with many pages) needs to be fixed. This "first" release date idea is dumb. The info box should list the OFFICIAL release date as stated by the band and the recording studio. In the case of The Hunting Party the OFFICIAL release date as stated by Linkin Park and Warner Bros Records is Tuesday June 17th, 2014. The fact that some countries might have an early release date should not matter because those countries are not the source of the material. Every official mention of this album such as Linkin Park's web site, Warner Bros Records web site, Linkin Park's official Facebook page and Linkin Park's official YouTube channel ALL say June 17th so it makes the most sense to use that date. -- Jimv1983 ( talk) 03:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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Track 4 "The Summoning" and track 10 "Drawbar" are instrumentals. Source: I have the album. Dawn Of Solace ( talk) 04:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
According to Allmusic the album is produced by bandmembers but in addition it is produced by Rob Cavallo and Emile Haynie. The album is said to be self produced but here there are extra producers. My question is "Is this correct?" Because Allmusic is a reliable source. Please share your ideas! Mike:Golu · [ ChitChat ] 08:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
-- 72.251.108.80 ( talk) 00:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC) Its obviously Nu Metal, Thrash Metal, Alternative Metal, and Alternative Rock. Its's not Hard Rock in any way it's too aggresive. Please change it because what you have down is misleading. -- 72.251.108.80 ( talk) 00:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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Please change the genre Hard rock and rap rock to Heavy metal, alternative metal, and rap metal.
121.54.83.69 ( talk) 08:57, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done The genres are currently under discussion - see the Edit warring over genre of album section above - please contribute any reliable sources you can cite to that discussion. The genres will not be changed until consensus has been reached. Arjayay ( talk) 09:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Instead of Linkin Park for all the track, how would this do:
All tracks produced by Brad Delson and Mike Shinoda, except " Wastelands" co-produced by Rob Cavallo, and " Final Masquerade" co-produced by Emile Haynie.
All tracks are written by Linkin Park, with additional co-writers listed below
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
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1. | "Keys to the Kingdom" | 3:38 | |
2. | "All for Nothing" (featuring Page Hamilton) | 3:33 | |
3. | " Guilty All the Same" (featuring Rakim) | William Griffin | 5:56 |
4. | "The Summoning" | 1:00 | |
5. | "War" | 2:11 | |
6. | " Wastelands" | 3:15 | |
7. | " Until It's Gone" | 3:53 | |
8. | " Rebellion" (featuring Daron Malakian) | Daron Malakian | 3:44 |
9. | "Mark the Graves" | 5:05 | |
10. | "Drawbar" (featuring Tom Morello) | 2:46 | |
11. | " Final Masquerade" | 3:37 | |
12. | "A Line in the Sand" | 6:35 | |
Total length: | 45:12 |
Mike:Golu · [ ChitChat ] 06:13, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
-- 72.251.108.51 ( talk) 10:30, 23 June 2014 (UTC) Thank you for adding Alt metal. But you still have Rock and Hard Rock there. Those genres are misleading. Nu Metal is the overall sound of this album. Look at what Nu Metal is then change he genre because some of you people obviously don't understand what any of these genres are otherwise this would have been changed a long time ago. Nu Metal should go first, then Thrash Metal, then Alternative Metal. Thank and please change it right this time. -- 72.251.108.51 ( talk) 10:30, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/linkin-park-the-hunting-party
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Linkin_Park-nom_album-The_Hunting_Party-l-en.html
Better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.108.51 ( talk) 11:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
In the CD there is a note from the band which could be included as a quote in the background section. Should we add this:
We are not SATISFIED.
We are HUNGRY.
HUNGRY for the VISCERAL. CATHARTIC. INSPIRED. DEFIANT.
We are not HEROES or ANTI-HEROES.
We carry only the FLAG, that is our own.
Now is not the time to look back to see if anyone is FOLLOWING.
Now is the time to CHARGE FORWARD into the UNKNOWN.
THE HUNTING PARTY.
— Linkin Park
Mike:Golu · [ ChitChat ] 10:21, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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Please add heavy metal as the genre of the album, it is clearly noticeable in the album as a whole. Thank you. 121.54.83.69 ( talk) 15:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done Please read the section Edit warring over genre of album above, for the discussion on this. - Arjayay ( talk) 16:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
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The songs in the album are actually Heavy metal, rap metal, and thrash metal, please add this category to avoid confusing. 121.54.83.69 ( talk) 02:51, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
-- 72.251.108.163 ( talk) 03:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC) HAVE YOU PEOPLE EVEN HEARD THE ALBUM?!?!?! LISTEN TO IT AND COMPARE IT TO THE GENRES OF Nu metal AND Thrash metal. LINKIN PARK EVEN SAID THAT THEY TOOK INFLUENCE FROM Thrash metal AND HARDCORE PUNK ON THIS ALBUM. EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT ONHOW IT'S THE HEAVIEST ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE. EVEN THE BAND IS SAYING IT. PLEASE CHANE THE ALBUM GENRE TO Nu metal, Thrash metal. tHANK YOU FOR LISTENING. -- 72.251.108.163 ( talk) 03:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
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There are five singles for "The Hunting Party", in the article, only 3 are mentioned, "Wastelands" and "Rebellion" are missing, please add these singles to the album's ones. Source : http://www.lpassociation.com/music/ 78.238.84.76 ( talk) 12:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Not done See prior discussions. Some appear to just be promotional singles, no sources said otherwise. A fansite won't change that. Sergecross73 msg me 13:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
The album is certification is updated every week and now it currently holds a certifications of 4x Platinum, with the sales of 24,000 copies digital. The current certification is 3x Platinum with 18,000 sales. Next week it would be 4x Platinum. The sales of CD are not yet known, because they are not recorded. Mike:Golu · [ Confidential message ] 11:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I noticed a recent edit that changed this to an official single infobox. Before I immediately objected, I noticed the editor had left a note saying it was in the singles section for the Linkin Park website.
http://www.linkinpark.com/releases#/type/singles http://www.linkinpark.com/releases/linkin_park/wastelands
Indeed it is.
I wonder, shall we put this one in? If we do, we should change "Rebellion" to its original date as well. If the band says it is, in my opinion*, that satisfies it being in the list, at least. ( *There are probably guidelines to this that I don't know.) DannyMusicEditor ( talk) 19:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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I will be doing this. — Yash! (Y) 21:15, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I will go through References tonight. It looks good to go. BTW, on a side note, I loved their electronic work ("Iridescent" and "Waiting For The End" are my favourites by them). I am not really a metal fan but I enjoyed "In The End", "Numb" and few others. Didn't really like this album, what about you? — Yash! (Y) 10:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
I will deal with the audio tonight. — Yash! (Y) 13:38, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Nice work guys! Pleased to see it made GA. DannyMusicEditor ( talk) 01:40, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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