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In the Animation section there is a reference to Dave Gielow, this name is incorrect and should be me, Tad Gielow. This can be verified via IMDB. Thank you.
Tadgielow (
talk) 23:14, 22 December 2018 (UTC)reply
The reference itself says "Tad Gielow" so I changed it to reflect your request. Thank you for noticing the error.
ThaddeusSholto (
talk) 00:12, 23 December 2018 (UTC)reply
Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2020
Mancini's score uses the main melody from Schubert's Symphony No. 5 — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Lucasaw (
talk •
contribs) 13:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Voice cast section
Hello. In the article's voice cast section, the
note regarding Hiram Flaversham's name was one of the few edits made by
Brightblueskies (
talk·contribs), which is a sockpuppet of the banned user Bambifan101(
talk·contribs·deleted contribs·nuke contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log). As per
WP:BANREVERT, "Anyone is free to revert any edits made in violation of a ban, without giving any further reason and without regard to the three-revert rule. This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor (changes that are obviously helpful, such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism, can be allowed to stand), but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert." Also, I think we should change the credit to Flaversham, since the name should reflect the credits as per
WP:FILMCAST. Thoughts?
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions) 02:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Also, what we want to avoid here is a full list of credits, since it's not WP's purpose. The first set of credits as shown in the opening lists the eight principal actors with the roles: Price, Ingham, Bettin, Pollatschek, Candido, Chesney, Brenner and Young. After that, there's the additional voice talent that includes the other roles (like the Thug Guards). Taking that into consideration and using Back to the Future (an FA) as a model, I think we can stick to the list of seven that is the principal cast as per the opening credits and also list any other person notable in the cast that we can document to third-party source (like Basil Rathbone or Laurie Main) as prose.
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions) 07:39, 28 December 2022 (UTC)reply
First extensive use of CGI
I'd like to get everyone's opinion on the sentence that calls The Great Mouse Detectivethe first Disney film to extensively use computer animation. The word "extensively" is being used to distinguish its CGI from the CGI in The Black Cauldron, which was released first. This phrasing seems misleading to me because neither film really used that much CGI. Mouse Detective might have used more than Cauldron, but it was still only one scene. I wouldn't call that "extensive".
Why is the threshold for "extensive CGI" in between Cauldron and Mouse Detective instead of some other movie? It seems like an arbitrary distinction. I think it's a result of Disney's publicizing the CGI in The Great Mouse Detective in their marketing. But marketing shouldn't dictate how the movie is described in the article.
This is further complicated by the overlapping production of the two films. According to
Michael Peraza's blog the CGI team for The Great Mouse Detective was borrowed to make CGI for The Black Cauldron. He says So officially "Basil" was the first Disney animated feature to use computer graphics but "Cauldron" was the first to be released showing it.. But this is using "first" in a different sense than most readers would. For example, the Cauldron article still calls it the first Disney film to use CGI.
What are your thoughts? Should we add a sentence after it to mention the earlier release of Cauldron's CGI? Should we call it the second Disney film with CGI? Should we remove the "extensively" and go by production order instead of release order? Jak86 (
talk)(
contribs) 20:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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In the Animation section there is a reference to Dave Gielow, this name is incorrect and should be me, Tad Gielow. This can be verified via IMDB. Thank you.
Tadgielow (
talk) 23:14, 22 December 2018 (UTC)reply
The reference itself says "Tad Gielow" so I changed it to reflect your request. Thank you for noticing the error.
ThaddeusSholto (
talk) 00:12, 23 December 2018 (UTC)reply
Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2020
Mancini's score uses the main melody from Schubert's Symphony No. 5 — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Lucasaw (
talk •
contribs) 13:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Voice cast section
Hello. In the article's voice cast section, the
note regarding Hiram Flaversham's name was one of the few edits made by
Brightblueskies (
talk·contribs), which is a sockpuppet of the banned user Bambifan101(
talk·contribs·deleted contribs·nuke contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log). As per
WP:BANREVERT, "Anyone is free to revert any edits made in violation of a ban, without giving any further reason and without regard to the three-revert rule. This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor (changes that are obviously helpful, such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism, can be allowed to stand), but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert." Also, I think we should change the credit to Flaversham, since the name should reflect the credits as per
WP:FILMCAST. Thoughts?
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions) 02:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Also, what we want to avoid here is a full list of credits, since it's not WP's purpose. The first set of credits as shown in the opening lists the eight principal actors with the roles: Price, Ingham, Bettin, Pollatschek, Candido, Chesney, Brenner and Young. After that, there's the additional voice talent that includes the other roles (like the Thug Guards). Taking that into consideration and using Back to the Future (an FA) as a model, I think we can stick to the list of seven that is the principal cast as per the opening credits and also list any other person notable in the cast that we can document to third-party source (like Basil Rathbone or Laurie Main) as prose.
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions) 07:39, 28 December 2022 (UTC)reply
First extensive use of CGI
I'd like to get everyone's opinion on the sentence that calls The Great Mouse Detectivethe first Disney film to extensively use computer animation. The word "extensively" is being used to distinguish its CGI from the CGI in The Black Cauldron, which was released first. This phrasing seems misleading to me because neither film really used that much CGI. Mouse Detective might have used more than Cauldron, but it was still only one scene. I wouldn't call that "extensive".
Why is the threshold for "extensive CGI" in between Cauldron and Mouse Detective instead of some other movie? It seems like an arbitrary distinction. I think it's a result of Disney's publicizing the CGI in The Great Mouse Detective in their marketing. But marketing shouldn't dictate how the movie is described in the article.
This is further complicated by the overlapping production of the two films. According to
Michael Peraza's blog the CGI team for The Great Mouse Detective was borrowed to make CGI for The Black Cauldron. He says So officially "Basil" was the first Disney animated feature to use computer graphics but "Cauldron" was the first to be released showing it.. But this is using "first" in a different sense than most readers would. For example, the Cauldron article still calls it the first Disney film to use CGI.
What are your thoughts? Should we add a sentence after it to mention the earlier release of Cauldron's CGI? Should we call it the second Disney film with CGI? Should we remove the "extensively" and go by production order instead of release order? Jak86 (
talk)(
contribs) 20:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)reply