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This film article should be moved to simply Final Destination 4. Just because it is being released in 3D doesn't mean the article title should have 3D in it. It is the fourth film in the series, and should therefore keep in line with the other films.-- EclipseSSD ( talk) 21:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Support - the film poster (and IMDB) suggest that the title of the film will be simply 'Final Destination 4'. Terraxos ( talk) 23:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say, "She died an hero" on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.118.71 ( talk) 23:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Who is he and why isn't he listed anywhere else. Is this a clever joke? 199.80.117.25 ( talk) 21:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Who changed it to "The Final Destination" and where is your proof? I haven't heard anything calling it that, can some citations be made? J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 21:43, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Never mind, seen the official poster now. J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 10:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Television advertisements title the movie "The Final Destination: Death Saved the Best for 3D". Perhaps this is an effort to describe this as the final installment in this series? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.80.35.162 (
talk) 02:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Not just because she is my sister, but she is listed on the cast list as Mourner #1. She is right after The Cowboy and I do not see why you did not have the decency to add her as well. Why stop at the Cowboy? Because he has a page stating four movies to which he was a nobody? In that case let me add Angela Adams, and then make her a page, and she will remain on the cast like. OK? Thanks Much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.184.3 ( talk) 23:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok so I'll remove the Racist and the Racist's wife since they have no character name either —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.184.3 ( talk) 00:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
It's true. The Racist and The Racist's Wife should not be added to this article. It's likely they are minor characters in the film since they don't even have a name! Just because you found more people that are appearing in this film,doesn't mean each of them has to be added. However I am currently trying to figure out what "Andy's Girlfriend" fictional name is. Also that thing with Angela Adams prooves my point. So she was listed as Mourner #1 in the film. Meaning she was either a "walk-in" or a minor character since she had no name. So the racist and his wife have to go. Same thing with The Cowboy. It's like putting "Girl Buying a Hotdog in the background" as a main character. Yes sounds foolish I know. Thats why those other have to go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.144.146 ( talk) 03:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I feel that this page, and along with the other Final Destination pages should be rewritten. I think that the page should have a plot, (which explains the whole movie) along with a "Deaths" section written at the botttom. Or, we can just leave the characters but just have a good plot writing; Like the way the other Final Destination pages uswed to be written. Having just a characters section doesn't really explain the movie too well. Not that i'm saying I HATE the was this page is made, I just don't like it too well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.52.165 ( talk) 22:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
It sais that Lori broke her neck after she was hit by the truck at the end but i've watched the film multiple times to know that she was decapitated. It also sais that Jonathan Groves death at the race track if he changed seats is unknown but it is shown in the film. He is crushed against a piller by a flying, buring race car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.175.215 ( talk) 11:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Is this page really getting away with this awful run-on sentence? "He and his beautiful sweetheart Lori (Shantel VanSanten), who is also one of the survivors and believes him, after tracing every previous disasters of the past decade since the aviation incident at JFK, they realize that they must race against time to find a way to cheat their deaths once more before they reach their final destination." 72.219.56.68 ( talk) 05:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
'It is unknown what his original death at McKinley Speedway would have been if he had changed seats.'
Someone change had to hadn't, since he changed seats to avoid getting pwned. -- 24.145.53.167 ( talk) 13:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
No matter how you pronounce the scenetnce its compltely wrong. The film does show how he died if he had changed seats. He was crushed against a piller by a flying, flaming car. It's shown in the film so how is the death unknown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.175.215 ( talk) 15:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Really everything is a mess! And the whole plot being rewritten down was a mistake. Really this page is just a terrible mess. There are also several grammar errors in the page. And whats with the extra characters added to the "characters" section? Doesn't make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.144.146 ( talk) 01:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't they also die, considering they survived because of the premonition? Depicting children's death in a movie doesn't seem to be a problem, considering the falling window scene in the second one. 212.25.39.222 ( talk) 08:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure who this IP is, but he should follow WP:Consensus. Putting in a long, detailed plot is against consensus. He (I guess this is a he) should also not remove reliably sourced material about this quite possibly being the last film in this series. 72.216.9.149 ( talk) 18:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The film is (presumably) set 10 years after the Flight 180 explosion, 9 years after the Route 23 pile-up, and 4 years after the Devil's Flight roller coaster derailment.
Final Destination 1 and 5 took place in 2000(read Alex's boarding pass in the beginning of the film), final Destination 2 took place one year later 2001, part 3 took place in 2005. the final destination took place in 2009...so its set 9 years after the flight 180 explosion not 10
Nick is smashed to the café wall where his jaw shatters), thus leaving all connected to the McKinley Speedway disaster and the (presumably) the film series dead.
I noticed the issue of "presumably" pop up above, though I don't know who made the message since there seems to be an awful lot of not signing of posts. "Presumably" always equals original research and can't be included. If you want to add it to the article, find a reliable source. Thanks. -- 13 2 06:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the plot has several errors, such as:
Nobody except Lori believe him
If you will write a plot, make sure to check it first.
Also, the cast doesn't contain Lara Grice. I included her once for she has been included in other websites and forums. For example:
The film also has the most number of deaths in the franchise, containing eleven.
How come is she not included? She is Carter's wife nonetheless.
Could also somebody request to protect this page? I think many unregistered users have vandalized the article too much.-- FDJoshua22 ( talk) 13:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
"Final Destination 4 (Previously known as The Final Destination)"
The above statement is incorrect. The film remains "The Final Destination", and is only referred to as "Final Destination 4" unofficially. Quickly searching a local and international website, the movie is still sold as "The Final Destination". The film's official website refers to the film as "The Final Destination"
I suggest that it should be rewritten to:
"The Final Destination (also known/referred to as Final Destination 4)
-- Happiness in a pill ( talk) 13:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
"It is the only film in the series to not devote a scene to reference the past films; only a news paper clipping of "The Flight 180 Premonition" is seen for a brief second." The above statement is incorrect. In the first chapter of the film, the characters are sitting in Section 180 of McKinley Speedway. '180' is an ongoing theme in the previous three films.
Also, the grammar and spelling in this page is awful, and needs to be fixed. I would fix it myself, but frankly there are just too many errors. One moment the errors are fixed and the next there are more. Perhaps someone should request semi-protection on the page under vandalism.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 3193th ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
It seems there is an IP editor who has spent the last few months continually re-adding this section. Could they please explain where this analysis is from, rather than wasting everyone's time putting it back in so it can be removed again. The problem with it that it appears to be original research, something that is not permitted on Wikipedia. But if it could be cited from a good source it could be left in. But otherwise, it will be removed, and continually re-adding it will only get the article locked. Thanks. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 20:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Final Destination (film series) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 21:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
This is the correct order the cast were listed in the opening:
I think he should be removed, because the actor is not even credited for the role, nor does he have any big scenes. The casting section is for main or notable characters, not every member of the cast. Scream4man ( talk) 19:43, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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This film article should be moved to simply Final Destination 4. Just because it is being released in 3D doesn't mean the article title should have 3D in it. It is the fourth film in the series, and should therefore keep in line with the other films.-- EclipseSSD ( talk) 21:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Support - the film poster (and IMDB) suggest that the title of the film will be simply 'Final Destination 4'. Terraxos ( talk) 23:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say, "She died an hero" on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.118.71 ( talk) 23:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Who is he and why isn't he listed anywhere else. Is this a clever joke? 199.80.117.25 ( talk) 21:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Who changed it to "The Final Destination" and where is your proof? I haven't heard anything calling it that, can some citations be made? J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 21:43, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Never mind, seen the official poster now. J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 10:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Television advertisements title the movie "The Final Destination: Death Saved the Best for 3D". Perhaps this is an effort to describe this as the final installment in this series? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.80.35.162 (
talk) 02:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Not just because she is my sister, but she is listed on the cast list as Mourner #1. She is right after The Cowboy and I do not see why you did not have the decency to add her as well. Why stop at the Cowboy? Because he has a page stating four movies to which he was a nobody? In that case let me add Angela Adams, and then make her a page, and she will remain on the cast like. OK? Thanks Much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.184.3 ( talk) 23:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok so I'll remove the Racist and the Racist's wife since they have no character name either —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.184.3 ( talk) 00:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
It's true. The Racist and The Racist's Wife should not be added to this article. It's likely they are minor characters in the film since they don't even have a name! Just because you found more people that are appearing in this film,doesn't mean each of them has to be added. However I am currently trying to figure out what "Andy's Girlfriend" fictional name is. Also that thing with Angela Adams prooves my point. So she was listed as Mourner #1 in the film. Meaning she was either a "walk-in" or a minor character since she had no name. So the racist and his wife have to go. Same thing with The Cowboy. It's like putting "Girl Buying a Hotdog in the background" as a main character. Yes sounds foolish I know. Thats why those other have to go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.144.146 ( talk) 03:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I feel that this page, and along with the other Final Destination pages should be rewritten. I think that the page should have a plot, (which explains the whole movie) along with a "Deaths" section written at the botttom. Or, we can just leave the characters but just have a good plot writing; Like the way the other Final Destination pages uswed to be written. Having just a characters section doesn't really explain the movie too well. Not that i'm saying I HATE the was this page is made, I just don't like it too well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.52.165 ( talk) 22:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
It sais that Lori broke her neck after she was hit by the truck at the end but i've watched the film multiple times to know that she was decapitated. It also sais that Jonathan Groves death at the race track if he changed seats is unknown but it is shown in the film. He is crushed against a piller by a flying, buring race car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.175.215 ( talk) 11:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Is this page really getting away with this awful run-on sentence? "He and his beautiful sweetheart Lori (Shantel VanSanten), who is also one of the survivors and believes him, after tracing every previous disasters of the past decade since the aviation incident at JFK, they realize that they must race against time to find a way to cheat their deaths once more before they reach their final destination." 72.219.56.68 ( talk) 05:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
'It is unknown what his original death at McKinley Speedway would have been if he had changed seats.'
Someone change had to hadn't, since he changed seats to avoid getting pwned. -- 24.145.53.167 ( talk) 13:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
No matter how you pronounce the scenetnce its compltely wrong. The film does show how he died if he had changed seats. He was crushed against a piller by a flying, flaming car. It's shown in the film so how is the death unknown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.175.215 ( talk) 15:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Really everything is a mess! And the whole plot being rewritten down was a mistake. Really this page is just a terrible mess. There are also several grammar errors in the page. And whats with the extra characters added to the "characters" section? Doesn't make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.144.146 ( talk) 01:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't they also die, considering they survived because of the premonition? Depicting children's death in a movie doesn't seem to be a problem, considering the falling window scene in the second one. 212.25.39.222 ( talk) 08:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure who this IP is, but he should follow WP:Consensus. Putting in a long, detailed plot is against consensus. He (I guess this is a he) should also not remove reliably sourced material about this quite possibly being the last film in this series. 72.216.9.149 ( talk) 18:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The film is (presumably) set 10 years after the Flight 180 explosion, 9 years after the Route 23 pile-up, and 4 years after the Devil's Flight roller coaster derailment.
Final Destination 1 and 5 took place in 2000(read Alex's boarding pass in the beginning of the film), final Destination 2 took place one year later 2001, part 3 took place in 2005. the final destination took place in 2009...so its set 9 years after the flight 180 explosion not 10
Nick is smashed to the café wall where his jaw shatters), thus leaving all connected to the McKinley Speedway disaster and the (presumably) the film series dead.
I noticed the issue of "presumably" pop up above, though I don't know who made the message since there seems to be an awful lot of not signing of posts. "Presumably" always equals original research and can't be included. If you want to add it to the article, find a reliable source. Thanks. -- 13 2 06:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the plot has several errors, such as:
Nobody except Lori believe him
If you will write a plot, make sure to check it first.
Also, the cast doesn't contain Lara Grice. I included her once for she has been included in other websites and forums. For example:
The film also has the most number of deaths in the franchise, containing eleven.
How come is she not included? She is Carter's wife nonetheless.
Could also somebody request to protect this page? I think many unregistered users have vandalized the article too much.-- FDJoshua22 ( talk) 13:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
"Final Destination 4 (Previously known as The Final Destination)"
The above statement is incorrect. The film remains "The Final Destination", and is only referred to as "Final Destination 4" unofficially. Quickly searching a local and international website, the movie is still sold as "The Final Destination". The film's official website refers to the film as "The Final Destination"
I suggest that it should be rewritten to:
"The Final Destination (also known/referred to as Final Destination 4)
-- Happiness in a pill ( talk) 13:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
"It is the only film in the series to not devote a scene to reference the past films; only a news paper clipping of "The Flight 180 Premonition" is seen for a brief second." The above statement is incorrect. In the first chapter of the film, the characters are sitting in Section 180 of McKinley Speedway. '180' is an ongoing theme in the previous three films.
Also, the grammar and spelling in this page is awful, and needs to be fixed. I would fix it myself, but frankly there are just too many errors. One moment the errors are fixed and the next there are more. Perhaps someone should request semi-protection on the page under vandalism.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 3193th ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
It seems there is an IP editor who has spent the last few months continually re-adding this section. Could they please explain where this analysis is from, rather than wasting everyone's time putting it back in so it can be removed again. The problem with it that it appears to be original research, something that is not permitted on Wikipedia. But if it could be cited from a good source it could be left in. But otherwise, it will be removed, and continually re-adding it will only get the article locked. Thanks. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 20:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Final Destination (film series) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 21:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
This is the correct order the cast were listed in the opening:
I think he should be removed, because the actor is not even credited for the role, nor does he have any big scenes. The casting section is for main or notable characters, not every member of the cast. Scream4man ( talk) 19:43, 29 October 2015 (UTC)