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Oppose - The Contact currently redirects to
Contact, and the word 'The' may be too weak to disambiguate this article with other topics named 'Contact' that are far more major. I do agree that the disambiguation should be toned down. '(1997 South Korean film)' is unnecessarily long. --
sovereign°
sentinel(contribs)17:30, 27 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes but that guideline has been stuffed around - see discussion. In fact such variance is extremely unusual and only applies to super notable cases.
In ictu oculi (
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13:01, 7 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Support. I think the number of people typing "The Contact" in the search box who would be looking for anything other than this film would be vanishingly small.
Jenks24 (
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14:21, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
But what is it disambiguating from? Obviously disambiguation terms are not simply meant as descriptors, but rather to distinguish from another topic of the same name. Which other topic on wikipedia could possibly be the intended target for a reader looking for "The Contact"?--
Yaksar(let's chat)19:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment - did nobody look in Google Books for "film The Contact"?
The Contact (1963 film) (which was a redlink from the Wendy Richards filmography) got as many references as the Korean film
Jeopsok, and the "the Contact" on the Korean film's non-released abroad working English title is very odd, why "the"? Jeopsok means connection or juncture, not "the" connection, this is relevant since it's far from intuitive that anyone looking for the Korean film in English would add "the". Anyway, to simplify matters I've created a stub for the early John Hurt film, someone who thinks an early Spastics Society film featuring a major UK actor isn't important can try to AFD it. But even without it, this move isn't helping anyone. We could move to
The Contact (1997 film) that would mess readers up a little, since the US film is also 1997, but not as much as the proposed move.
In ictu oculi (
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22:31, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose. There is no legitimate reasoning within any Wikipedia policy or guideline that would support such a move. Not to mention, the film's actual title is 접속, not The Contact. Not to mention, even the OP's reasoning is flawed:
The Contact already lists 3 items with that title. And as with any generic title, "
Contact" and "
The Contact" must remain disambiguation pages, per standard Wikipedia policies.
Softlavender (
talk) 23:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC); edited
Softlavender (
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23:42, 5 September 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Oppose - The Contact currently redirects to
Contact, and the word 'The' may be too weak to disambiguate this article with other topics named 'Contact' that are far more major. I do agree that the disambiguation should be toned down. '(1997 South Korean film)' is unnecessarily long. --
sovereign°
sentinel(contribs)17:30, 27 July 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes but that guideline has been stuffed around - see discussion. In fact such variance is extremely unusual and only applies to super notable cases.
In ictu oculi (
talk)
13:01, 7 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Support. I think the number of people typing "The Contact" in the search box who would be looking for anything other than this film would be vanishingly small.
Jenks24 (
talk)
14:21, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
But what is it disambiguating from? Obviously disambiguation terms are not simply meant as descriptors, but rather to distinguish from another topic of the same name. Which other topic on wikipedia could possibly be the intended target for a reader looking for "The Contact"?--
Yaksar(let's chat)19:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment - did nobody look in Google Books for "film The Contact"?
The Contact (1963 film) (which was a redlink from the Wendy Richards filmography) got as many references as the Korean film
Jeopsok, and the "the Contact" on the Korean film's non-released abroad working English title is very odd, why "the"? Jeopsok means connection or juncture, not "the" connection, this is relevant since it's far from intuitive that anyone looking for the Korean film in English would add "the". Anyway, to simplify matters I've created a stub for the early John Hurt film, someone who thinks an early Spastics Society film featuring a major UK actor isn't important can try to AFD it. But even without it, this move isn't helping anyone. We could move to
The Contact (1997 film) that would mess readers up a little, since the US film is also 1997, but not as much as the proposed move.
In ictu oculi (
talk)
22:31, 4 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose. There is no legitimate reasoning within any Wikipedia policy or guideline that would support such a move. Not to mention, the film's actual title is 접속, not The Contact. Not to mention, even the OP's reasoning is flawed:
The Contact already lists 3 items with that title. And as with any generic title, "
Contact" and "
The Contact" must remain disambiguation pages, per standard Wikipedia policies.
Softlavender (
talk) 23:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC); edited
Softlavender (
talk)
23:42, 5 September 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.