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Is the Persian word qanun actually a cognate of our word canon? 131.183.73.174 23:35 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Where are these books please? m.
It seems that instead of Galen, a picture of Ibn Sina/Avicenna should be pictured first, as he is the compiler. Shouldn't there be a Ibn Sina/Avicenna picture first? —Preceding
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Is this work still in print? The article makes no mention. -- 01:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Auric ( talk)
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This article says that Gerard of Cremona translated The Canon into Latin but the article about him clearly states that he has been mistakenly credited and mentions another Gerard Cremonensis as the translator. Does anybody have more insight? Lathrop1885 ( talk) 18:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Even skimming this article, one notices a tendency toward Avicenna-veneration (also evident in the main Avicenna article). Although no-one is denying the man's achievements, for he had many, this article should be about the document itself, and *not* how wonderful Avicenna was for coming up with this or that. Example:
- Ibn Sina contributed inventively... - ...he used to pioneer the idea of... - Avicenna was the first to describe the... - Avicenna's contribution to the...
Again, not that any of these are unremarkable by themselves, but that they all occur within the span of 3-4 sentences. Indeed, for most of the article, almost every single paragraph begins with "Avicenna ....." - and this is NOT an article on Avicenna, it is an article on a single document. It ends up reading like fanboy work, which is unfortunate. I've added the coatrack tag and the "too long" tag. Glacialfury ( talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC).
This isn't fanboy work, it's rabid religion disguised as 'science'. Apparently 'the qanun' describes most modern medical practices including cancer treatment!
This is a type of Database generated by India Govt to protect country ancient knowledge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.91.131 ( talk) 11:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
and verification is needed-- 222.67.208.20 ( talk) 04:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
If anyone can access to the following article, please add the info to this article http://www.ceps.com.tw/ec/ecjnlarticleView.aspx?atliid=286907&issueiid=22254&jnliid=2883 -- 222.67.208.20 ( talk) 04:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Well its better than what we have here AVICENNA x. Medicine and Biology [1] J8079s ( talk) 22:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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I will WP:AGF and allow them time to undo or correct their revert. J8079s ( talk) 04:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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WP:Assume good faith J8079s ( talk) 07:43, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Islamic medicine as a target page in wikipedia;1)re-directs are to be avoided. 2) there are two types of medicine that could be construed as Islamic readers should not be forced to follow the link. These are technical issues and should not be taken as endorsing or condemning any WP:POV J8079s ( talk) 22:49, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
The construction encyclopedia of Islamic medicine "encyclopedia" is an WP:Easter egg "Islamic medicine" is a redirect to the same page Medicine in the medieval Islamic world. Medicine in the medieval Islamic world ⋅needs to be linked in the lede. The page has other problems mostly technical. Substantial changes should use talk. J8079s ( talk) 04:24, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I have selected Canon of Medicine for editing because it was such an important medical text and the wikipedia article has very little concerning its actual content. This book was the textbook in medicine for hundreds of years and is even in use in smaller capacity today. I think this text deserves a closer inspection, and I intend on adding significant detail to the Wikipedia article.
I have found an English translation of the source material. Because of having access to this source, mistakes have been made very obvious. For example, many of the headings and chapters are misnamed or completely out of order.
I intend on laying out as much of the book as possible and giving a brief overview of what is in it. It is also my intention to find additional photos and other third party sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paullittle1979 ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I have been filling out content material so that we have a complete overview of the Canon. I have desired to post pictures of the source material in Arabic, however each page is indiscernible from the next. There are no pictures, diagrams, or such. So I'm coming to the decision that showing additional photos would be superfluous.
In the meantime, I am reading critical responses to Canon to bridge the content material with it's reception in a historical concept. How did it differ Canon differ from Galen's medical volumes? How did it differ from Hippocrates or Aristotle?
Presentist wording has been a major issue in the past in articles relating to science in Medieval Islam. A lot of that content was removed with the Jagged_85 cleanup a few years ago. This article still has some content which reads to me as grafting modern terminology onto a thousand year old text, specifically:
Because presentist wording is sometimes also found in the sources, I'm not sure what the best course of action is here. Dialectric ( talk) 11:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
This is really well fleshed out so far. I have no suggestions on how to improve this more. I can't wait to see how User:Paullittle1979 improves books 3-5. Theboywiththednatattoo ( talk) 03:03, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
In Volume III, the chapter beginning on p. 298 is titled,
Chapter on treatment of headaches caused by external wind which penetrated into the head
The first two sections of the chapter, in order are
- on treatment of headache caused by external bad vapors which inflicted the head 298
- On treatment of headache caused by perfume odors 298
http://ddc.aub.edu.lb/projects/saab/avicenna/book-three.html
Iranica says: "Book 1 is available in English, based on the twelfth-century Latin translation of Gerard of Cremona (with its own departures from the Arabic text) in O. C. Gruner, A Treatise on the Canon of Medicine, Incorporating a Translation of the First Book, London, 1930." [10] However this source says: "When [the fourth book, on surgery] was translated into Latin in the 13th century by Gerard of Cremona or Gerard de Sabloneta..." [11] I'm confused. Can anyone else shed any light? Were different books from the Canon translated into Latin at different times, by different people? -- Merlinme ( talk) 13:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Is the Persian word qanun actually a cognate of our word canon? 131.183.73.174 23:35 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Where are these books please? m.
It seems that instead of Galen, a picture of Ibn Sina/Avicenna should be pictured first, as he is the compiler. Shouldn't there be a Ibn Sina/Avicenna picture first? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
152.7.25.145 (
talk)
05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Is this work still in print? The article makes no mention. -- 01:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Auric ( talk)
Along with biographies, academic journals, and hospitals, works of chiefly historical importance are usually rated "Low" by the medicine project. This doesn't mean that they weren't important at the time, just that improving an article on this subject is a low priority for the project when compared to (for example) articles on current diseases. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
This article says that Gerard of Cremona translated The Canon into Latin but the article about him clearly states that he has been mistakenly credited and mentions another Gerard Cremonensis as the translator. Does anybody have more insight? Lathrop1885 ( talk) 18:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Even skimming this article, one notices a tendency toward Avicenna-veneration (also evident in the main Avicenna article). Although no-one is denying the man's achievements, for he had many, this article should be about the document itself, and *not* how wonderful Avicenna was for coming up with this or that. Example:
- Ibn Sina contributed inventively... - ...he used to pioneer the idea of... - Avicenna was the first to describe the... - Avicenna's contribution to the...
Again, not that any of these are unremarkable by themselves, but that they all occur within the span of 3-4 sentences. Indeed, for most of the article, almost every single paragraph begins with "Avicenna ....." - and this is NOT an article on Avicenna, it is an article on a single document. It ends up reading like fanboy work, which is unfortunate. I've added the coatrack tag and the "too long" tag. Glacialfury ( talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC).
This isn't fanboy work, it's rabid religion disguised as 'science'. Apparently 'the qanun' describes most modern medical practices including cancer treatment!
This is a type of Database generated by India Govt to protect country ancient knowledge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.91.131 ( talk) 11:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
and verification is needed-- 222.67.208.20 ( talk) 04:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
If anyone can access to the following article, please add the info to this article http://www.ceps.com.tw/ec/ecjnlarticleView.aspx?atliid=286907&issueiid=22254&jnliid=2883 -- 222.67.208.20 ( talk) 04:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Well its better than what we have here AVICENNA x. Medicine and Biology [1] J8079s ( talk) 22:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
For background information, please see RFC/U and Cleanup. With 205 edits, User:Jagged 85 is the main contributor to this article by far (2nd: 7 edits). The issues are a repeat of what had been exemplarily shown here, here, here or here. As the last pre-Jagged85 version (06 June 2007) is itself unreferenced I stubbed the article completely. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 18:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
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I will WP:AGF and allow them time to undo or correct their revert. J8079s ( talk) 04:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
points of agreement:
Points for discussion:
Point of disagreement:
My points are these:
WP:Assume good faith J8079s ( talk) 07:43, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Islamic medicine as a target page in wikipedia;1)re-directs are to be avoided. 2) there are two types of medicine that could be construed as Islamic readers should not be forced to follow the link. These are technical issues and should not be taken as endorsing or condemning any WP:POV J8079s ( talk) 22:49, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
The construction encyclopedia of Islamic medicine "encyclopedia" is an WP:Easter egg "Islamic medicine" is a redirect to the same page Medicine in the medieval Islamic world. Medicine in the medieval Islamic world ⋅needs to be linked in the lede. The page has other problems mostly technical. Substantial changes should use talk. J8079s ( talk) 04:24, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I have selected Canon of Medicine for editing because it was such an important medical text and the wikipedia article has very little concerning its actual content. This book was the textbook in medicine for hundreds of years and is even in use in smaller capacity today. I think this text deserves a closer inspection, and I intend on adding significant detail to the Wikipedia article.
I have found an English translation of the source material. Because of having access to this source, mistakes have been made very obvious. For example, many of the headings and chapters are misnamed or completely out of order.
I intend on laying out as much of the book as possible and giving a brief overview of what is in it. It is also my intention to find additional photos and other third party sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paullittle1979 ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I have been filling out content material so that we have a complete overview of the Canon. I have desired to post pictures of the source material in Arabic, however each page is indiscernible from the next. There are no pictures, diagrams, or such. So I'm coming to the decision that showing additional photos would be superfluous.
In the meantime, I am reading critical responses to Canon to bridge the content material with it's reception in a historical concept. How did it differ Canon differ from Galen's medical volumes? How did it differ from Hippocrates or Aristotle?
Presentist wording has been a major issue in the past in articles relating to science in Medieval Islam. A lot of that content was removed with the Jagged_85 cleanup a few years ago. This article still has some content which reads to me as grafting modern terminology onto a thousand year old text, specifically:
Because presentist wording is sometimes also found in the sources, I'm not sure what the best course of action is here. Dialectric ( talk) 11:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
This is really well fleshed out so far. I have no suggestions on how to improve this more. I can't wait to see how User:Paullittle1979 improves books 3-5. Theboywiththednatattoo ( talk) 03:03, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
In Volume III, the chapter beginning on p. 298 is titled,
Chapter on treatment of headaches caused by external wind which penetrated into the head
The first two sections of the chapter, in order are
- on treatment of headache caused by external bad vapors which inflicted the head 298
- On treatment of headache caused by perfume odors 298
http://ddc.aub.edu.lb/projects/saab/avicenna/book-three.html
Iranica says: "Book 1 is available in English, based on the twelfth-century Latin translation of Gerard of Cremona (with its own departures from the Arabic text) in O. C. Gruner, A Treatise on the Canon of Medicine, Incorporating a Translation of the First Book, London, 1930." [10] However this source says: "When [the fourth book, on surgery] was translated into Latin in the 13th century by Gerard of Cremona or Gerard de Sabloneta..." [11] I'm confused. Can anyone else shed any light? Were different books from the Canon translated into Latin at different times, by different people? -- Merlinme ( talk) 13:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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I would like to know the relationship between Sushruta Samhita and the Canon of Medicine. To my knowledge the medical text Sushruta Samhita was translated to Arabic in the early 8th century in Baghdad. Considering The Canon of Medicine was written in the 10th century in Baghdad, I would think there is a relationship between the two medical texts. If anyone could provide more info on how these texts relate to one another I would be most grateful. Thank you.
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