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Why is it only "allegedly" written by Musashi? Is there any evidence that it was not? I believe I will remove "allegedly" for now, as I believe it throws uncertainty into the start of the article. Also, the article does not discuss this allegation. Skywalkert65b 04:55, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
The article has multiple (conflicting) translations of "ni-ten ichi-ryu". "Two Heavens, One Style" seems accurate to me, but what is "Two Swords, one heaven" based on? Japanese wikipedia gives the kanji as 二天一流 (ni ten ichi ryū), which interpreted literally are "two", "heaven/sky", "one", (here) "school/style of" (also "current/flow"). Vuori 18:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
The "misconeption" statement about the name of the book seems to stem from the translation note in the 2005-08-26 edit, but it was incorrect. "五輪" literally means "five rings" and, according to the ja edition, refers to the concept of "five elements" of Vajrayāna Buddhism, which are used as the name of the chapters. The mistaken belief about meaning of "piety" probably came from looking up "Gorin" in a dictionary and coming up with "五倫" (five ethics), which is not what the title is. Similarly, "Sho" (書) does mean "book" and not "reward" or something else. Juxtap 01:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
In the related articles it gives the Thirty-Six Strategies as a related article (which is fine), and calls it "another" Chinese work. Since the Book of Five Rings is Japanese, I'm removing "another" from that link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.42 ( talk) 14:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
There is mention of business leaders using the tome.
Our company was founded 15 years ago based on this books principle (we are called fifth ring) and it is embedded in our company ethos. Is a link to our website blatant advertising or does it support the claim that it is used by business leaders?
thoughts please
So long as you put an in-line citation in the 'used by business leaders' bit, it will probably raise few enough hackles to squeak by. Someone might still get torqued off, though. One never knows. I personally like the idea. - Toptomcat 21:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
It's on Public Domain, is it not?-- Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves/Saoshyant talk / contribs 13:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
The article states that perhaps Musashi did not wield dual swords, but rather was ambidextrious. I have not heard that before, but I can say that I visited Kumamoto, Japan and I visited the Budokan while I was there. I was able to watch students practice Ni Ten Ichi Ryu and they were using two swords at one time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonofgib ( talk • contribs) 03:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC).
The first external link is to an online version of Victor Harris' translation of the book. Not sure exactly how these things work, but surely that's not public domain? Admittedly the original isn't in English, but... is this allowed? Leushenko ( talk) 03:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I've added a link to this game under "see also" as it's a card(&RPG) game whose name and elemental structure(that is, the five elelments it uses) are based on this Book. Kairos ( talk) 07:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I haven't had the chance to read all the article, but I'm sure I will. I was genuinely surprised to see it existed and pleased none-the-less. I would like to remind the reading students that his views are based on the time when modern weapons were just emerging and (if his views were alive today) his strategey would undoubtly incorporate the weapons at his leisure. I notice, generally, that the authors of this article may need more info re the Master, which, for myself is not a problem. If you feel that more info is a good idea, just let me know - Wiki User 68 ( talk) 22:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I understand the kanji for it is 空. Wouldn'y it be better to translate it as "the book of void"? 222.153.233.249 ( talk) 14:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Similar to the incorrect translation of the first element, no-thing isn't the English translation of the element name. It is a literal translation. The correct translation is "Void". Chi is Earth, not ground. When you recite the 5 elements to yourself, you don't say Ground, Wind, Fire, Water, Nothing....it's Earth, Wind, Fire, Water, Void. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.157.67 ( talk) 14:44, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
The archive.org link is no longer available due to that site's current robots.txt version so I tried to replace it with archive. is/Gncpn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.13.147.118 ( talk) 10:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
"The idea of strategy would be encouraged to be very astute in their study and strategy" Lewis Goudy ( talk) 00:47, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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Why is it only "allegedly" written by Musashi? Is there any evidence that it was not? I believe I will remove "allegedly" for now, as I believe it throws uncertainty into the start of the article. Also, the article does not discuss this allegation. Skywalkert65b 04:55, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
The article has multiple (conflicting) translations of "ni-ten ichi-ryu". "Two Heavens, One Style" seems accurate to me, but what is "Two Swords, one heaven" based on? Japanese wikipedia gives the kanji as 二天一流 (ni ten ichi ryū), which interpreted literally are "two", "heaven/sky", "one", (here) "school/style of" (also "current/flow"). Vuori 18:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
The "misconeption" statement about the name of the book seems to stem from the translation note in the 2005-08-26 edit, but it was incorrect. "五輪" literally means "five rings" and, according to the ja edition, refers to the concept of "five elements" of Vajrayāna Buddhism, which are used as the name of the chapters. The mistaken belief about meaning of "piety" probably came from looking up "Gorin" in a dictionary and coming up with "五倫" (five ethics), which is not what the title is. Similarly, "Sho" (書) does mean "book" and not "reward" or something else. Juxtap 01:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
In the related articles it gives the Thirty-Six Strategies as a related article (which is fine), and calls it "another" Chinese work. Since the Book of Five Rings is Japanese, I'm removing "another" from that link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.42 ( talk) 14:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
There is mention of business leaders using the tome.
Our company was founded 15 years ago based on this books principle (we are called fifth ring) and it is embedded in our company ethos. Is a link to our website blatant advertising or does it support the claim that it is used by business leaders?
thoughts please
So long as you put an in-line citation in the 'used by business leaders' bit, it will probably raise few enough hackles to squeak by. Someone might still get torqued off, though. One never knows. I personally like the idea. - Toptomcat 21:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
It's on Public Domain, is it not?-- Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves/Saoshyant talk / contribs 13:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
The article states that perhaps Musashi did not wield dual swords, but rather was ambidextrious. I have not heard that before, but I can say that I visited Kumamoto, Japan and I visited the Budokan while I was there. I was able to watch students practice Ni Ten Ichi Ryu and they were using two swords at one time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonofgib ( talk • contribs) 03:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC).
The first external link is to an online version of Victor Harris' translation of the book. Not sure exactly how these things work, but surely that's not public domain? Admittedly the original isn't in English, but... is this allowed? Leushenko ( talk) 03:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I've added a link to this game under "see also" as it's a card(&RPG) game whose name and elemental structure(that is, the five elelments it uses) are based on this Book. Kairos ( talk) 07:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I haven't had the chance to read all the article, but I'm sure I will. I was genuinely surprised to see it existed and pleased none-the-less. I would like to remind the reading students that his views are based on the time when modern weapons were just emerging and (if his views were alive today) his strategey would undoubtly incorporate the weapons at his leisure. I notice, generally, that the authors of this article may need more info re the Master, which, for myself is not a problem. If you feel that more info is a good idea, just let me know - Wiki User 68 ( talk) 22:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I understand the kanji for it is 空. Wouldn'y it be better to translate it as "the book of void"? 222.153.233.249 ( talk) 14:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Similar to the incorrect translation of the first element, no-thing isn't the English translation of the element name. It is a literal translation. The correct translation is "Void". Chi is Earth, not ground. When you recite the 5 elements to yourself, you don't say Ground, Wind, Fire, Water, Nothing....it's Earth, Wind, Fire, Water, Void. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.157.67 ( talk) 14:44, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
The archive.org link is no longer available due to that site's current robots.txt version so I tried to replace it with archive. is/Gncpn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.13.147.118 ( talk) 10:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
"The idea of strategy would be encouraged to be very astute in their study and strategy" Lewis Goudy ( talk) 00:47, 6 October 2016 (UTC)