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Hello! Before you review this, I wanted to discuss: This was declined by David.moreno72, with the justification being that "the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia." The editor was referring to the Thanos comic book character's wikipedia page, however this page is for the Marvel Cinematic Universe's rendition of the character. Many MCU iterations of characters already have their own unique wikipedia pages, like Tony Stark ( /info/en/?search=Tony_Stark_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)) and Thor ( /info/en/?search=Thor_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)). It's also worth noting that a few of the MCU characters that already have dedicated pages are substantially less important to the franchise than Thanos, such as Erik Selvig ( /info/en/?search=Erik_Selvig) and Trevor Slattery ( /info/en/?search=Trevor_Slattery).
Furthermore, the Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe) page has significantly more detail than what's provided on the comic book character's "in film" section. There we get a simple overview of the character's plot line, and instead of adding more to that subsection, we could trim it and directed readers to this page instead. A dedicated Thanos-MCU page allows Wikipedia to expand on his behind the scenes development, character arc, reception, cultural impact, and more. It's one thing to say the Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe) article needs more work (an argument I might even agree with) but to say it's not necessary because it already exists is erroneous. Every MCU character has a comic book equivalent, but the MCU's rendition of the character unique and should get the attention and detail it deserves. If this Thanos' page shouldn't be on Wikipedia, than neither should the Tony Stark page, the Erik Selvig page, and the countless other MCU character pages that are either in draft form or already published.
The aforementioned was already detailed on the Help Desk for creating articles ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#17%3A53%3A58%2C_16_January_2020_review_of_submission_by_Delfino319). One user already has agreed with my note (I agree with Delfino319 - with the character having different arcs depending on the media, it's too much to keep straight in one article, and warrants a fork. Courtesy ping to David.moreno72 as the declining editor. TechnoTalk (talk) 19:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)) Similarly, Jéské Couriano posted on my talk page in reference to my attempts to get this page approved, and he also agrees with my assertion that MCU Thanos should have his own page.
Sorry for the lengthy post here of all places, I just wasn't sure how else to state my case. If you believe this Thanos page needs more fleshing out just let me know and I'll add more depth to this article. Also if anyone's capable of getting a picture of the character in here it'd be much obliged (my Wikiedpia prowess is not the best ever, as I'm sure you noticed). Thanks for your time and help! Delfino319 ( talk) 23:11, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanos in Avengers Infinity War.png appears in the Thanos film section ( /info/en/?search=Thanos#Film). Could someone help me put it in here?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Delfino319 ( talk • contribs) 02:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
All of the information in the currently citation-free "fictional character biography" is taken straight from the plot and dialogue of the MCU Films. Couldn't we cite the films themselves as the source? If so how is this done? Thanks, and stay safe I quarantine Delfino319 ( talk) 20:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
There are currently some disagreements regarding calling Thanos the "primary antagonist" of Infinity War and Endgame. User:Lutesque appears to feel pretty strongly about removing that term, and despite my attempts to discuss this civilly to determine a consensus, this user continues to edit war despite correction from myself and User:IronManCap to avoid this kind of behavior. WP: ANTAGONIST applies to film casts. My argument here is that Thanos is the antagonist of the films based on definitions, he is the "chief foe" of the protagonists, the Avengers, Guardians, etc. Wanted to gather some other thoughts regarding this so that we can come to an overall consensus. Thank you. Bloodyboppa ( talk) 18:10, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Original message moved from Talk:Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)/GA1
Not sure if this is intruding or not, my apologies if so. I had something to add, but in the Accolades table, what is the intended order of the Accolades table? By year is clear, but is the Award column intended to be sorted alphabetically or chronologically? I was going to sort 2018 alphabetically (which seems to be how the following years went, but it occurred to me that it might be going chronological by when awarded within the year. Regardless, the "Los Angeles Online Film Critics Society" should go up into 2018. (The renamed "Hollywood Critics Association Awards" was also dated November 2019). - 2pou ( talk) 18:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
I guess I would lean towards date of the ceremony since if the award was won, it happened on the date of the ceremony/announcement. From the Featured Lists, List of awards and nominations received by James Cameron has an efn note in the year column saying "Indicates the year of ceremony." Adding this note might help here as well. - 2pou ( talk) 19:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Does the category actually apply to this page? Or does adapting Thanos qualify? Most or all of the other characters in the category are original characters created by him. -- Zoo ( talk) 19:05, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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Overall: @ ZooBlazer: Good article but i think it would be better to say that the system helped create the look rather than flatly saying that this new system created his look. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 18:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm suggesting that we update the infobox image as the current one was overly brightened by the orignal source. If we decide to change it, here are some options:
-- ZooBlazer talk 22:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
I feel that somewhere in the article it should mention that Thanos is about the same size as the Hulk. Right now, one could read the entire article and never realize that Thanos was not a regular human-sized character. BD2412 T 21:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Per request at WT:FAC, some comments on the article, reviewing it with an eye to the FAC criteria, as if it were at FAC:
-- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
There is consensus that Screen Rant is a marginally reliable source. It is considered reliable for entertainment-related topics, but should not be used for controversial statements related to living persons.As this is an entertainment related article, shouldn't it be fine? -- ZooBlazer talk 15:47, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Okay, let me see if I've got this straight: Before Thanos realized he could collect the Infinity Stones and instantly eliminate half the life in the universe, he set out visiting one planet at a time, half-decimating each one.
Now, I'm the first to agree, the Stones route was much, much more expedient—but really? A planet at a time? Considering there are about a billion stars in your average galaxy, and about two trillion galaxies in the known universe, how could Mr. T. imagine he could make the slightest dent manually? Was he severely math-challenged? If so, shouldn't that be mentioned in the article? It seems like a significant character trait. –
AndyFielding (
talk) 15:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
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Hello! Before you review this, I wanted to discuss: This was declined by David.moreno72, with the justification being that "the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia." The editor was referring to the Thanos comic book character's wikipedia page, however this page is for the Marvel Cinematic Universe's rendition of the character. Many MCU iterations of characters already have their own unique wikipedia pages, like Tony Stark ( /info/en/?search=Tony_Stark_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)) and Thor ( /info/en/?search=Thor_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)). It's also worth noting that a few of the MCU characters that already have dedicated pages are substantially less important to the franchise than Thanos, such as Erik Selvig ( /info/en/?search=Erik_Selvig) and Trevor Slattery ( /info/en/?search=Trevor_Slattery).
Furthermore, the Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe) page has significantly more detail than what's provided on the comic book character's "in film" section. There we get a simple overview of the character's plot line, and instead of adding more to that subsection, we could trim it and directed readers to this page instead. A dedicated Thanos-MCU page allows Wikipedia to expand on his behind the scenes development, character arc, reception, cultural impact, and more. It's one thing to say the Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe) article needs more work (an argument I might even agree with) but to say it's not necessary because it already exists is erroneous. Every MCU character has a comic book equivalent, but the MCU's rendition of the character unique and should get the attention and detail it deserves. If this Thanos' page shouldn't be on Wikipedia, than neither should the Tony Stark page, the Erik Selvig page, and the countless other MCU character pages that are either in draft form or already published.
The aforementioned was already detailed on the Help Desk for creating articles ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#17%3A53%3A58%2C_16_January_2020_review_of_submission_by_Delfino319). One user already has agreed with my note (I agree with Delfino319 - with the character having different arcs depending on the media, it's too much to keep straight in one article, and warrants a fork. Courtesy ping to David.moreno72 as the declining editor. TechnoTalk (talk) 19:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)) Similarly, Jéské Couriano posted on my talk page in reference to my attempts to get this page approved, and he also agrees with my assertion that MCU Thanos should have his own page.
Sorry for the lengthy post here of all places, I just wasn't sure how else to state my case. If you believe this Thanos page needs more fleshing out just let me know and I'll add more depth to this article. Also if anyone's capable of getting a picture of the character in here it'd be much obliged (my Wikiedpia prowess is not the best ever, as I'm sure you noticed). Thanks for your time and help! Delfino319 ( talk) 23:11, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanos in Avengers Infinity War.png appears in the Thanos film section ( /info/en/?search=Thanos#Film). Could someone help me put it in here?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Delfino319 ( talk • contribs) 02:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
All of the information in the currently citation-free "fictional character biography" is taken straight from the plot and dialogue of the MCU Films. Couldn't we cite the films themselves as the source? If so how is this done? Thanks, and stay safe I quarantine Delfino319 ( talk) 20:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
There are currently some disagreements regarding calling Thanos the "primary antagonist" of Infinity War and Endgame. User:Lutesque appears to feel pretty strongly about removing that term, and despite my attempts to discuss this civilly to determine a consensus, this user continues to edit war despite correction from myself and User:IronManCap to avoid this kind of behavior. WP: ANTAGONIST applies to film casts. My argument here is that Thanos is the antagonist of the films based on definitions, he is the "chief foe" of the protagonists, the Avengers, Guardians, etc. Wanted to gather some other thoughts regarding this so that we can come to an overall consensus. Thank you. Bloodyboppa ( talk) 18:10, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Original message moved from Talk:Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)/GA1
Not sure if this is intruding or not, my apologies if so. I had something to add, but in the Accolades table, what is the intended order of the Accolades table? By year is clear, but is the Award column intended to be sorted alphabetically or chronologically? I was going to sort 2018 alphabetically (which seems to be how the following years went, but it occurred to me that it might be going chronological by when awarded within the year. Regardless, the "Los Angeles Online Film Critics Society" should go up into 2018. (The renamed "Hollywood Critics Association Awards" was also dated November 2019). - 2pou ( talk) 18:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
I guess I would lean towards date of the ceremony since if the award was won, it happened on the date of the ceremony/announcement. From the Featured Lists, List of awards and nominations received by James Cameron has an efn note in the year column saying "Indicates the year of ceremony." Adding this note might help here as well. - 2pou ( talk) 19:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Does the category actually apply to this page? Or does adapting Thanos qualify? Most or all of the other characters in the category are original characters created by him. -- Zoo ( talk) 19:05, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
BorgQueen (
talk) 13:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by ZooBlazer ( talk). Self-nominated at 03:20, 27 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: @ ZooBlazer: Good article but i think it would be better to say that the system helped create the look rather than flatly saying that this new system created his look. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 18:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm suggesting that we update the infobox image as the current one was overly brightened by the orignal source. If we decide to change it, here are some options:
-- ZooBlazer talk 22:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
I feel that somewhere in the article it should mention that Thanos is about the same size as the Hulk. Right now, one could read the entire article and never realize that Thanos was not a regular human-sized character. BD2412 T 21:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Per request at WT:FAC, some comments on the article, reviewing it with an eye to the FAC criteria, as if it were at FAC:
-- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
There is consensus that Screen Rant is a marginally reliable source. It is considered reliable for entertainment-related topics, but should not be used for controversial statements related to living persons.As this is an entertainment related article, shouldn't it be fine? -- ZooBlazer talk 15:47, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Okay, let me see if I've got this straight: Before Thanos realized he could collect the Infinity Stones and instantly eliminate half the life in the universe, he set out visiting one planet at a time, half-decimating each one.
Now, I'm the first to agree, the Stones route was much, much more expedient—but really? A planet at a time? Considering there are about a billion stars in your average galaxy, and about two trillion galaxies in the known universe, how could Mr. T. imagine he could make the slightest dent manually? Was he severely math-challenged? If so, shouldn't that be mentioned in the article? It seems like a significant character trait. –
AndyFielding (
talk) 15:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)