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Maybe something needs adding about the theories of Leslie White and Julian Steward. I'll do it if I get time soon! PatHadley ( talk) 11:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
The citations need some serious work. "(1997) isn't an appropriate citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.111.117.176 ( talk) 01:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I believe this session could be a little bit more expanded. Marshall McLuhan's views completely favored technological determinism when it comes to media. When he wrote that 'The Medium is the Message', the underlying meaning was that technology, or the media in this case, is what defines social and cultural scopes of human life instead of the other way around, like pointed out by Raymond Williams http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Williams . Such deterministic ideas grow even further when McLuhan says media is an extension of the body.. [1] I believe we should include such information in the article. What do you think? Cheers, Zalunardo8 ( talk) 10:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
I think that the Origin section is a bit vague so I added some information for clarity in the context of the section's purpose. Let me know if there are problems with my edit. By the way, I hope you guys wanting to make a big push are still around :) so we could improve this article further. Regards, Darwin Naz ( talk) 02:54, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Critiques in the academic and popular world in this section focus on the socially determined nature of technological determinism, stating that rather than technology having a simple cause and effect formula on the social world, it operates within a complex economic and socio-political networks, and thus social effects are caused by the interactions and contexts of these networks with technology. While this is a valid and key criticism of the theory, it is also a critique of the "hard deterministic" view. The soft view does view technological affects on society as a result of its interactions with other contextual factors within society.
This section should also include views of other deterministic theories such as linguistic determinism, stating that the way individuals operate is dictated by language, biological determinism, stating that social phenomena is determined by genetic factors. It is important to include these contrasting views on what factors are the determining drivers of society and history because these key deterministic theoretical debates also reveal flaws in technological deterministic views, such as previous criticisms on "hard" determinism in its simple cause-effect formula. These contrasting deterministic theories also show the network or possible interactions of social and historical drivers, rather than viewer each driver as the key determinant, favouring "soft" determinism. Q00p1d ( talk) 07:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
As the German version of this article correctly points out, people falsely accuse Marx being a technology determinist. Marx made the specific configuration of productive forces responsible for societal development. Productive forces are not just means of production (technology) but also include the labor forces as well as natural, organisational, intellectual and scientific resources available to a society for the production of goods. Moreover, a technology determinist would hardly claim that transferring the means of production into the hands of the workers is a revolutionary act. For the technology determinist, that would not make any difference. Dormux ( talk) 19:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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Maybe something needs adding about the theories of Leslie White and Julian Steward. I'll do it if I get time soon! PatHadley ( talk) 11:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
The citations need some serious work. "(1997) isn't an appropriate citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.111.117.176 ( talk) 01:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I believe this session could be a little bit more expanded. Marshall McLuhan's views completely favored technological determinism when it comes to media. When he wrote that 'The Medium is the Message', the underlying meaning was that technology, or the media in this case, is what defines social and cultural scopes of human life instead of the other way around, like pointed out by Raymond Williams http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Williams . Such deterministic ideas grow even further when McLuhan says media is an extension of the body.. [1] I believe we should include such information in the article. What do you think? Cheers, Zalunardo8 ( talk) 10:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
I think that the Origin section is a bit vague so I added some information for clarity in the context of the section's purpose. Let me know if there are problems with my edit. By the way, I hope you guys wanting to make a big push are still around :) so we could improve this article further. Regards, Darwin Naz ( talk) 02:54, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Critiques in the academic and popular world in this section focus on the socially determined nature of technological determinism, stating that rather than technology having a simple cause and effect formula on the social world, it operates within a complex economic and socio-political networks, and thus social effects are caused by the interactions and contexts of these networks with technology. While this is a valid and key criticism of the theory, it is also a critique of the "hard deterministic" view. The soft view does view technological affects on society as a result of its interactions with other contextual factors within society.
This section should also include views of other deterministic theories such as linguistic determinism, stating that the way individuals operate is dictated by language, biological determinism, stating that social phenomena is determined by genetic factors. It is important to include these contrasting views on what factors are the determining drivers of society and history because these key deterministic theoretical debates also reveal flaws in technological deterministic views, such as previous criticisms on "hard" determinism in its simple cause-effect formula. These contrasting deterministic theories also show the network or possible interactions of social and historical drivers, rather than viewer each driver as the key determinant, favouring "soft" determinism. Q00p1d ( talk) 07:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
As the German version of this article correctly points out, people falsely accuse Marx being a technology determinist. Marx made the specific configuration of productive forces responsible for societal development. Productive forces are not just means of production (technology) but also include the labor forces as well as natural, organisational, intellectual and scientific resources available to a society for the production of goods. Moreover, a technology determinist would hardly claim that transferring the means of production into the hands of the workers is a revolutionary act. For the technology determinist, that would not make any difference. Dormux ( talk) 19:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)