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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen ( talk)  23:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC) reply

• ... that in 1996, Indonesian health minister Sujudi called the government's campaign to promote condom use as "culturally unacceptable"? Source: Indonesia 'risks huge surge in Aids orphans'
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Volin
  • Comment: Special thanks to Juxlos for suggesting this hook off-wiki.

Moved to mainspace by Jeromi Mikhael ( talk). Self-nominated at 06:23, 16 January 2023 (UTC). reply

• The article is new enough and long enough. No copyvio or close paraphrasing found in spotchecks (most are non-English anyway). QPQ is done. However, the hook as it stands will not work, it attributes a direct quote that is both a different wording to the one in the source, and which the source does not note as a direct quote. CMD ( talk) 10:26, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply
• @ Chipmunkdavis: how about: theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC) reply
• ALT0a: ... that Indonesian health minister Sujudi objected to the government's campaign to promote condom use?
  • "rejected" a "proposed plan" might work. CMD ( talk) 01:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC) reply
    • Jeromi Mikhael? theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:33, 9 February 2023 (UTC) reply
      • I think ALT0a is ok. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC) reply
        • CMD, are there any more issues? Is this ready? Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 04:00, 28 February 2023 (UTC) reply
          • Alt0a is as written incorrect. A reformulation may work but I don't think I should do that myself as the reviewer. CMD ( talk) 05:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC) reply
            • @ Chipmunkdavis: I'm not sure what you mean; nothing I can see in the Guardian piece explicitly says that Sujudi used his government authority to kill the plan. theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:15, 1 March 2023 (UTC) reply
              • The way I interpret the Guardian article aligns with the article text, "There were suggestions to initiate a government campaign of condom usage", rather than there being a plan. I did a bit of digging, the information seems quite vague, but this source says that while there was a official position on condoms as early as 1996 among the health department it was not something that was really implemented. CMD ( talk) 11:31, 1 March 2023 (UTC) reply
                • CMD, this just isn't moving, and it can't without a workable hook. I'd like to suggest that you propose a hook that you think works, and then we find another reviewer to check it, perhaps theleekycauldron. Otherwise, either Jeromi Mikhael proposes their own hook, or this needs to close—at nearly three months, it's the oldest outstanding nomination, and some progress soon is imperative. Thank you. BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:28, 12 April 2023 (UTC) reply

• ALT 1: ... that Sujudi had his election to the post of rector at the University of Indonesia overruled by the Indonesian government?
• ALT 2: ... that Indonesian health minister Sujudi felt a campaign to encourage condom use would be culturally unacceptable?
• ALT 3: ... that while Indonesian health minister Sujudi restricted alcohol sales in the country, he was reluctant to do the same for tobacco due to the potential economic impact?

CMD ( talk) 11:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC) reply

• • ticking ALT1 in good faith :) theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:43, 14 April 2023 (UTC) reply