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Support the move. Would have been quicker the other way before. This might take awhile as people don't seem to read these or take part! :/
Govvy (
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09:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Looks okay. Sorry for the somewhat unnecessary bureaucracy, but having the potential of the discussion swinging towards "oppose" means there was also the potential for the move to be reversed.
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14:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 10 March 2022
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Hi, has a recent discussion resulted in consensus to move all of them? If so, can you please point us to it? Because otherwise
this RM from a year and a half ago applies.
Dr. Vogel (
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01:13, 7 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Haven't seen this discussion. I just pointed out that only these 3 articles about clubs in Poland have prefixes in their names (like OKS or MPK); in the rest they are not (instead of KP Legia Warsaw, there will be Legia Warsaw, and a possible section in parentheses). What should I do in this situation? To start a discussion on the change of the name of Stomil, is this argument for the restoration of the proposed names sufficient? If it is not enough, then I am asking for the restoration of Pogoń Siedlce and Ruch Zdzieszowice, and in the case of Stomil Olsztyn I will take other steps.
Atlantico 000 (
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07:53, 7 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Given the recent RM about one of them going in the opposite direction, I'd be apprehensive about making these moves without a new RM.
Dr. Vogel (
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13:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that Ruch Zdzieszowice is no longer called HKS Ruch Zdzieszowice, but MKS Ruch Zdzieszowice. Introducing changes will avoid chaos when a club changes its name prefix.
Atlantico 000 (
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08:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment@
GiantSnowman: But now the situation is different. 1) At that time, "Stomil Olsztyn" was also redirected to the Michelin factory; 2) Stomil's name is not OKS Stomil, but Stomil Olsztyn S.A. I would like to remind you that, according to the names of Polish clubs, these prefixes are not added (only 2 other clubs have them, and there is a discussion about this).
Atlantico 000 (
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11:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)reply
@
GiantSnowman: In my opinion, user GiantSnowman's objection contains factual errors and should not be taken into account. However, he has the opportunity to respond to it by withdrawing the objection.
Atlantico 000 (
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13:40, 20 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment In my opinion, if my proposal was to be rejected, the name of the article cannot remain under the current name anyway, because the club changed the prefix.
Atlantico 000 (
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17:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per prefixes change often, and I found that the OKS Stomil Olsztyn is the former name (in years of 2012-14) and now its the Stomil Olsztyn S.A.[1]Soorma221 (
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20:52, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Sockpuppet of Atlantico 000reply
Support per WP:COMMONNAME, I've checked articles in Polish they are to indicate the Stomil Olsztyn and the antoher argument is the Stomil is not OKS anymore
Natapanedd (
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15:29, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Sockpuppet of Atlantico 000reply
Oppose It's clearly not the adopted nomenclature given that multiple articles in
Category:Football clubs in Poland and its subcategories use prefixes. This probably needs a centralised discussion rather than ad hoc RMs that (erroneously) claim there is an established naming convention. Cheers,
Number5722:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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NOTE - I am the sock puppet (???) of none, don’t know why my previous account was banned! Anyway, keeping the name from 2014 is acting to the Wikipedia detriment, so any vendetta is stupid. Keeping out of date clubs name is nonsense!!!
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10:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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Support the move. Would have been quicker the other way before. This might take awhile as people don't seem to read these or take part! :/
Govvy (
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09:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Looks okay. Sorry for the somewhat unnecessary bureaucracy, but having the potential of the discussion swinging towards "oppose" means there was also the potential for the move to be reversed.
Primefac (
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14:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 10 March 2022
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Hi, has a recent discussion resulted in consensus to move all of them? If so, can you please point us to it? Because otherwise
this RM from a year and a half ago applies.
Dr. Vogel (
talk)
01:13, 7 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Haven't seen this discussion. I just pointed out that only these 3 articles about clubs in Poland have prefixes in their names (like OKS or MPK); in the rest they are not (instead of KP Legia Warsaw, there will be Legia Warsaw, and a possible section in parentheses). What should I do in this situation? To start a discussion on the change of the name of Stomil, is this argument for the restoration of the proposed names sufficient? If it is not enough, then I am asking for the restoration of Pogoń Siedlce and Ruch Zdzieszowice, and in the case of Stomil Olsztyn I will take other steps.
Atlantico 000 (
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07:53, 7 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Given the recent RM about one of them going in the opposite direction, I'd be apprehensive about making these moves without a new RM.
Dr. Vogel (
talk)
13:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that Ruch Zdzieszowice is no longer called HKS Ruch Zdzieszowice, but MKS Ruch Zdzieszowice. Introducing changes will avoid chaos when a club changes its name prefix.
Atlantico 000 (
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08:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment@
GiantSnowman: But now the situation is different. 1) At that time, "Stomil Olsztyn" was also redirected to the Michelin factory; 2) Stomil's name is not OKS Stomil, but Stomil Olsztyn S.A. I would like to remind you that, according to the names of Polish clubs, these prefixes are not added (only 2 other clubs have them, and there is a discussion about this).
Atlantico 000 (
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11:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)reply
@
GiantSnowman: In my opinion, user GiantSnowman's objection contains factual errors and should not be taken into account. However, he has the opportunity to respond to it by withdrawing the objection.
Atlantico 000 (
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13:40, 20 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment In my opinion, if my proposal was to be rejected, the name of the article cannot remain under the current name anyway, because the club changed the prefix.
Atlantico 000 (
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17:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per prefixes change often, and I found that the OKS Stomil Olsztyn is the former name (in years of 2012-14) and now its the Stomil Olsztyn S.A.[1]Soorma221 (
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20:52, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Sockpuppet of Atlantico 000reply
Support per WP:COMMONNAME, I've checked articles in Polish they are to indicate the Stomil Olsztyn and the antoher argument is the Stomil is not OKS anymore
Natapanedd (
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15:29, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Sockpuppet of Atlantico 000reply
Oppose It's clearly not the adopted nomenclature given that multiple articles in
Category:Football clubs in Poland and its subcategories use prefixes. This probably needs a centralised discussion rather than ad hoc RMs that (erroneously) claim there is an established naming convention. Cheers,
Number5722:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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NOTE - I am the sock puppet (???) of none, don’t know why my previous account was banned! Anyway, keeping the name from 2014 is acting to the Wikipedia detriment, so any vendetta is stupid. Keeping out of date clubs name is nonsense!!!
Consiiid2 (
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10:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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