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I recall reading that a syringe, of the type used to administer medicines orally to children, was among the paraphernalia recovered. This may be the cause of the journalistic misunderstanding; I'll scan back through the news and try to find it.
Keri (
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15:31, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
BBC says
here: "The men's accounts were all similar - Port spiked their drinks or injected them with a small syringe, of the type used to give children medicine." But there is a claim
here from a previous victim's testimony at trial that he was actually injected: "When he returned, the man said he had felt "a sharp pain and very intense sting" after he was injected with a "plastic syringe" he had not seen the defendant carrying." The Daily Telegraphreports that when Taylor's body was found a needle and syringe were in his pocket. So it would appear Port did use a needle in some of his crimes.
Keri (
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15:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I'm a bit confused now. The types of syringes used for oral and hypodermic injections are very different. Perhaps it's only a minor detail. (On a completely different note, I think details about Barbara Denham who found two of the bodies, and the investigations undertaken by the families themselves, should be added. This must be one of the most serious cases of police incompetance for many years. I'm surprised no-one has nominated this article for ITN.)
Martinevans123 (
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15:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
The Guardian also
reports that he used the syringe to administer GHB rectally: "Once at his flat, he drugged them with GHB by spiking their drinks or injecting them in the anus." That would seem more compatible with an oral syringe. At trial, the prosecutor, Jonathan Rees, said that Port administered the drug rectally under the pretense that it was a lubricant. wrt the police investigation, shocking level of incompetence; per
The Moscow rules, "Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is an enemy action."
Keri (
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16:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
This case is interesting because Poret was given a
whole life order even though the trial judge accepted that he had no intention to kill his victims (see
Sentencing Remarks). I believe he is the only
whole lifer that did not intend to kill anyone. I have added a reference to the judge's sentencing remarks but I have not made the point that he is unusual/unique in this respect because I cannot find a reliable source saying, per
WP:NOR and
WP:SYNTH.
Yes, very unusual. Reading that part of the judge's sentencing remarks did cause me some cognitive dissonance! But as you correctly identify, it's one of those things that is difficult to convey/report on Wikipedia. I often find myself having to abandon what seemed like a perfectly reasonable edit because it started to sound like OR/SYNTH.
Keri (
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23:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Richard Huckle
Block evasion by
User:HarveyCarter, using IPs from Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
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I recall reading that a syringe, of the type used to administer medicines orally to children, was among the paraphernalia recovered. This may be the cause of the journalistic misunderstanding; I'll scan back through the news and try to find it.
Keri (
talk)
15:31, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
BBC says
here: "The men's accounts were all similar - Port spiked their drinks or injected them with a small syringe, of the type used to give children medicine." But there is a claim
here from a previous victim's testimony at trial that he was actually injected: "When he returned, the man said he had felt "a sharp pain and very intense sting" after he was injected with a "plastic syringe" he had not seen the defendant carrying." The Daily Telegraphreports that when Taylor's body was found a needle and syringe were in his pocket. So it would appear Port did use a needle in some of his crimes.
Keri (
talk)
15:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I'm a bit confused now. The types of syringes used for oral and hypodermic injections are very different. Perhaps it's only a minor detail. (On a completely different note, I think details about Barbara Denham who found two of the bodies, and the investigations undertaken by the families themselves, should be added. This must be one of the most serious cases of police incompetance for many years. I'm surprised no-one has nominated this article for ITN.)
Martinevans123 (
talk)
15:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
The Guardian also
reports that he used the syringe to administer GHB rectally: "Once at his flat, he drugged them with GHB by spiking their drinks or injecting them in the anus." That would seem more compatible with an oral syringe. At trial, the prosecutor, Jonathan Rees, said that Port administered the drug rectally under the pretense that it was a lubricant. wrt the police investigation, shocking level of incompetence; per
The Moscow rules, "Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is an enemy action."
Keri (
talk)
16:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
This case is interesting because Poret was given a
whole life order even though the trial judge accepted that he had no intention to kill his victims (see
Sentencing Remarks). I believe he is the only
whole lifer that did not intend to kill anyone. I have added a reference to the judge's sentencing remarks but I have not made the point that he is unusual/unique in this respect because I cannot find a reliable source saying, per
WP:NOR and
WP:SYNTH.
Yes, very unusual. Reading that part of the judge's sentencing remarks did cause me some cognitive dissonance! But as you correctly identify, it's one of those things that is difficult to convey/report on Wikipedia. I often find myself having to abandon what seemed like a perfectly reasonable edit because it started to sound like OR/SYNTH.
Keri (
talk)
23:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Richard Huckle
Block evasion by
User:HarveyCarter, using IPs from Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.