![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I've always wondered why Stephen Fry's nose is so horribly bent. Does anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.158.70.67 ( talk) 20:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
In Moab (his autobiography), he said he broke it when he was young and never got it fixed. I have the audio version, so I can't tell you which page to look at, but it's there. Puccini999 01:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Did he spend time in prison? Three months for credit card fraud I think.
Actually, if anyone cares to have a look, Fry refers to his prison experience in a talk with Mark Lawson, available on YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJgxUzJh-SA , might be a clip back) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.124.209 ( talk) 12:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but the sentence: "At seventeen, after leaving Norfolk College of Arts and Technology, Fry absconded with a credit card stolen from a family friend, and as a result spent three months in Pucklechurch Prison for fraud." It just sounds like he intended to stay there, in the prison. "I hear the other classes purchase accommodations with these 'credit' cards. What can I get with this one?" "Three months in Pucklechurch." "Sounds lovely--Yes, let's book it starting to-day...." O0drogue0o ( talk) 13:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
We need a reliable source for this claim that Stephen Fry is related to C.B.Fry. Any suggestions of a link have been removed from the C.B.Fry article due to the fact that no one had been able to produce any proof other than Stephen Fry claimning so (perhaps in an attempt to purposely misinform) during an episode of QI. I think therefore that this claim should be removed, unless someone can cite a more reliable source.
Bold text==National Treasure?!?== Is Wikipedia supposed to be a fan site or an encyclopedia?
Why is it "probably a coincidence" that they are all anagrams or puns of their Monte Cristo counterparts? It seems very likely to me, given Stephen Fry's kind of humour. — OwenBlacker 21:40, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
This article needn't be in both Category:British actors and Category:English actors, nor in both Category:British comedians and Category:English comedians. Tim Ivorson 5 July 2005 08:47 (UTC)
The mention of 'stage fright' is a little too euphemistic for my liking. He was mentally unwell and has acknowledged this. - written by richardcavell in August 2005.
In the trivia section, on the book Tish and Pish - how to be of a speakingness like Stephen Fry ( ISBN 1840244666), the article states: "However, this... does not accurately reflect his mannerisms, and contains various grammatical errors (most notably in the title)." - Surely this is POV, and need not be included, has anyone noteworthy said this? And surely the fact that it is not grammatically correct is the whole point. I haven't personally read the book so I wouldn't know, but this just seemed to jump out at me. M A Mason 20:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I cut the ref to the reader of Harry Potter in the US, as entirely irrelevant to Stephen Fry article, but I can't work out where to add this info in the mass of HP pages. So here it is for anyone who cares enough to find a home for it: "(this is Jim Dale's job in the US)"
-- I don't understand why quite a large part of his work is "entirely irrelevant" to this article? -- Chris G
NORCAT is Norfolk College of Art and Technology, in King's Lynn. Stephen took his A levels there after expulsion from school and had his first (only?) hetrosexual experience with a fellow student. Is discussed in "Moab" but I don't have a copy to hand for reference. Epeeist smudge
Stephen also appeared on an anniversary edition which featured the then-current champions against a team of famous UC-alumni. Charles Moore is the only other competitor I can remember. Stephen completely dominated the show, winning it for the old-boys nearly single-handed.
I've taken out the link to the Daniel Cohen, because I felt it was causing more then a little confusion, what with the Cohen linked being a totally different one to the one being referred too. Voici 20:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure he no longer drives a black cab- if I find a source and remember to return, I'll alter this. EvocativeIntrigue TALK | EMAIL 23:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't help noticing that most of the sufferers with bi-polar disorder that Stephen Fry spoke to (or about, with regard to the Swartz's daughter) on his programme (and of course Stephen himself) had Jewish ancestry. Is bi-polar disorder more prevalent (or more diaganosed) among Jews or was this just a coincidence? Jooler 22:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Marianne Neumann, an Austrian of Jewish descent.
Didn't his recent appearance on the BBC's genealogy show Who Do You Think You Are? establish that his mother's family were actually from Slovakia? Indisciplined 21:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed references to Fry's supposed Atheism. He may well be an Atheist, but I cannot find any reference to suggest that he is. Not conforming to organised religion does not necessarily mean that one disbelieves in the existance of a god. 219.90.233.149 03:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
he does make frequent implicit reference to his atheism in QI. reinstate 144.82.194.68 23:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the fact that he is quoted as saying 'religion. shit it!' on the wikiquotes page kind of implies his atheism. Or at least agnosticism.
I don't think we need to point out that he's an atheist, any more than we need to point out that he can walk using his legs. He's British and not gormless, of course he's atheist. - 88.109.64.43 22:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
The following are what Fry said in a conversation with Hitchens for The Blasphemy Debate at the Hay Festival 2005.
Stop trying to package as though Fry is not an atheist. He clearly is. Stampit ( talk) 23:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
In Fry's latest work "Stephen Fry in America", he claims himself to be an atheist (p. 86) and to harbor anti-religious feelings (p. 145) Surely this should be worked in-no? 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 18:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
The exact quote from page 86 is: "Only sneering liberal atheist scrum like me would raise an eyebrow at this outward and visible form of an inward and spiritual creed" (Fry, S. "Stephen Fry in America". Hammersmith, UK, HarperCollins 2008).
And from page 145.
"The atheist anti-religionist in me bridles, but results are results"(ibid).
That's about as clear an admission as one could fine-no? 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 13:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Why the strident denial of two direct quotes, penned by the man under his own name? The strongest evidence this page has is the evidence that has come directly from its subject 167.102.242.130 ( talk) 19:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I think we can at least now be in agreement that Fry is anti religion. From page 226 of his new book: "As one who abominates religion and most religious organisations..." 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 16:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
"Atheist" is not a well-defined category, and we are not in the business of defining it, nor of figuring out what labels to stick on Mr. Fry. Our job is only to aggregate things said by other people, especially when it comes to such a totally subjective term as 'atheist'. Does an atheist specifically deny the existence of any gods? Does he make no truth-claims about the existence of gods, yet without asserting agnostically that no truth-claims could be made about the existence of gods? Or does he just reject some particular brand of theism? There are all sorts of epistemological and theological issues to be waded through in these matters, as our own article on atheism reflects. We would be perfectly justified in repeating, and citing, (1) things Mr. Fry himself has said on the topic of religion, and his own attitude toward it; or, failing that, (2) things our reliable sources say about his attitude toward religion, again with citations. It should never appear that "Wikipedia itself" is claiming that Mr. Fry is an atheist, or an agnostic, or any such contentious thing -- that's simply not our place. — Dan | talk 22:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
He has self-identified, both as an atheist and an anti-religionist in his own work; has broadly agreed with the work of atheist champion Christopher Hitchens (at the Hay in 05), and is openly supporting Richard Dawkins atheist pride movement. But if that is not proof enough, then I respect that.
I wasn't suggesting that we as authors have any authority-merely pointing out Fry's own admissions. 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 03:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that's fairly conclusive. Can we move on. Iiidonkeyiii ( talk) 12:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Sigh: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=stephen+fry+atheist Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
How can you source the fact that he does Twinings adverts (btw not just voiceovers, he appears physically in them and addresses the viewer)? He definitely does it though, I've seen the adverts...
Check the link: http://www.twinings.co.uk/everyday_tv_advert_intro.asp Arthur Holland 15:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
A previous version of this page mentioned Fry's sympathy for the Labour Party. The next sentence said, "He is on friendly terms with Prince Charles, however..." Since the monarchy is apolitical (and New Labour has not indicated a wish to abolish the monarchy) I feel that the "however" seems out of place. I have restructured the sentence too - I hope people feel this works better. "He is also on friendly terms with Prince Charles..."
Also - how can we go about sourcing the fact that Fry does lots of work for the Prince's Trust?
-- Philipdw 23:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
The article says that in "Stephen Fry: The Secret Life of the Manic-Depressive", Fry
interviews celebrities (such as Robbie Williams, Rick Stein, Carrie Fisher, Richard Dreyfuss, and Tony Slattery) and non-famous persons, all of whom also suffer from the illness.
I'm pretty sure that the programme said that Robbie Williams suffered from depression, not bipolar disorder. Fry interviews Williams because of the apparent 'mania' that Williams displays in public, but this is attributed to his stage persona rather than a symptom of bipolarity. -- Stratocastermagic 23:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Just a note about the "Cyclothymia" on the front page. I am a psychotherapist and Fry's diagnosis could be Bipolar I or II Disorder, not Cyclothymia if he ever had "Severe Depression" as the article states. It would be considered Bpolar II if he had Hypomanic episodes, that is the associated traits of Mania, but still managed to function in daily living. He would have Bipolar I if he ever had an episode of Mania, regardless of any state of depression. This diagnosis is based on the DSM-IV-TR (2000), a lot of people don't like the book, but this is what it says, take or leave it. I hope this was helpful.
It's either British (legal, civic national) or Jewish/English (ethnic national). But certainly not simply English. I amended this line last week, and have had to do so again. (I think British is best, but stick with the ethnic national theme that my betters insist on - only correct it). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.47.159.12 ( talk) 01:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC).
I agree with Gwernol. Personally i think it's good to be as specific as possible. We know he was born in England, we know he has been referred to in the media as "English", i'm sure you could find a number of sources where he self identifies as "English". Amo 03:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
It is none of our business whether to call England a nation, or to decide which of citizenship, 'nationality', and 'ethnicity' is the most important category of personhood. What we should be concerned with is describing Mr. Fry in terms accordant with those used by our reputable sources. If he is always called English and never British, then we should describe him as English and cite the sources that support our decision, regardless of what we think about the correctness of the term. If the reverse, then we should call him British. If the sources are split then we should say that. I suspect his Judaism is usually mentioned in addition to his being either British or English, so probably we should throw that in too. Perhaps it would be best to include all three, like this: ' British/ English; Jewish'. Thoughts? — Dan | talk 21:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Why no photo for the brilliant Stephen Fry?
He is English. Look at wiki pages for famous welsh people ([Tom Jones]) they more often than not they are welsh not British —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.224.143 ( talk) 12:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Hang on, there's a picture of him in Blackadder on this page now. Wouldnt a picture of the actual Stephen Fry without Second World War uniform and fake moustache be more suitable? I understand it's hard to put on picture but this seems like a really bad alternative. Allthecoolnamesweretaken 19:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I altered the (unsourced) comment indicating Fry himself said he was "born to play" the part of Oscar Wilde in the 1997 film. I altered it to say that many commentators at the time used the epithet "born to be Wilde". I did so for several reasons:
My change was reverted within a few minutes to the similarly unsubstantiated (but IMO less plausible and less informative) earlier version with a comment that my change wasn't sourced... 82.15.52.66 10:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
In the paragraph under Career on Vivian Stanshall, it says:
That "most notable Fry" is surely an error, but I'm not sure if it was supposed to be some other name there instead. Hv 15:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Why has someone added that Fry is cyclothymic? He has suffered both major depressive episodes and full manic episodes. He clearly meets the criteria for Bipolar 1 disorder. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.99.139.62 ( talk) 20:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC).
Why? Because we have the interview with him stating the facts as he knows them and they would seem to be well diagnosed. You may well have professional grounds to debate this but wikipedia is not a debating blogsite. Your opinions are, I am sure, well reasoned and speak to your background on the subject, but, until he becomes your patient they are opinions and should nott trump a sourced article. Especially since it is a first person item and not some third party recollection. However, I would suggest that you might want to take your concerns to the wikiproject for biographies to see if you can get some kind of consensus and whatever they decide will be okay by me. MarnetteD | Talk 04:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Gresham's often claim him as an old boy, but Fry himself denied ever going to Gresham's when I saw him at a book launch in Norwich in 1998. Is there a definite reference for the claim? Ghughesarch 12:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
In Frys latest book based on the TV series about his travels round America he states he never went to Gresham's and does know that people keep adding this incorrect information to Wikipedia Penrithguy ( talk) 14:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know, Mr. Fry started writing "Revenge" and then, at one moment, he realized he was writing what could be considered a modern day "Count Of Monte Cristo". So I don't know if it would be accurate to say "Revenge" is Stephen Fry's take on "The Count Of Monte Cristo", since he wasn't thinking of "The Count Of Monte Cristo" when he thought of his novel, but after he had started and noted the similarities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.45.41.59 ( talk • contribs).
My latest novel, "Revenge", cause me a very specific hair-raising and sleep-depriving problem. I had planned it out in my head, which is about as much planning as I ever do, not being an index-card, scnario, or flow-chart person. It was a story of wrongful imprisonment and subsequent vengeance. As I thought the narrative through, a little voice started whispering wicked thoughts into my ear.
"This isn't very original", it would say. "I've heard it before."
At first I didn't pay much attention. When did any of us last read an original story? Original writing is the issue. Treatment is all. But then one night I sat bolt upright in bed and screamed in horror. The truth had suddenly exploded into my consciousness.
The story, the plot I had been working out with such pleasure, was not just unoriginal, it was a straight steal, virtually identical in all but period and style to Alexandre Dumas's "The Count Of Monte Cristo".
What does a writer do on such ocassions? Abandon his narrative and embark upon another? I was already three chapters in, and those authorial juices that take so long to summon up were flowing nicely. "
There is more, but right now I'm in a hurry and can't write it all, so if someone has a copy and can write it, it would be nice. Anyway, he goes on telling that he then went to buy all the editions of The Count Of Monte Cristo he could find, because he was sure that "Dumas pinched the story too", and he found one introduction to one of the editions that said that the story was, in Dumas's day, a kind of urban legend that he had "gratefully lifted". The then continued working since he was sure the outline was not original to Dumas,that a "literally reworking" or "homage" was perfectly acceptable, and that it wasn't plagiarism.
Now, in my opinion, that constitutes an original idea that happened to be incredibly similar to another idea who wasn't that original after all. Fry thought of that story in his head, Dumas's took it from an urban legend. It is debatable but I don't think it would be fair that it's his take on the novel, since he said that it's a homage or reworking after he had already started to write it as an original, probably to shut up critics and people who would accuse him of plagiarism.
It's a fact - I've seen it on QI
I feel it is a fact that will enhance and complete the picture that we are painting about the great man himself.
I'm watching Channel 4's Shrink Rap and they're doing Fry, he is talking about being abused by a 17/18 year old boy when he was 15 at school. I would consider this notable for the article, can somebody add this? Andrewjd 22:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
"his renowned intellect has most recently led to the success of television panel game QI, of which he is host."
isn't that slightly biased? :P -- Leladax 17:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
While I understand that much of this article is written in an homage to the style of its subject, I have nonetheless made some edits to put a lid on some of the excess. Piperdown 02:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I know there's a source for it, but the claim he was one of 5 people to know the ending of the final Harry Potter book is pretty wrong.
JK Rowling knew it. She's also said someone in her family also was allowed to read it, I think it was her husband. Then there's the two audiobook readers, Jim Dale and Stephen Fry. Also, the two illustrators, Mary Grandpre and Jason Cockcroft. And there's her editors at both Bloomsbury and Scholastic. And, the translators for the various world editions. There are quite a few more people than 5 who knew the ending of the book.
Don't know if this is worth putting in the article, but I just thought I'd mention it. Tredanse 14:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and added an extra comment to that paragraph, sourcing each person involved (apart from JK Rowling, you don't need a source to know that she knew the ending of her own book). The sources were a Jonathan Ross interview, a Time Magazine article, Detroit Free Press and a verbatim excerpt from a New York Times article on a fansite - the latter being the only one people might have a problem with in terms of reputable sources, but the actual New York Times article needs registration to view. Tredanse 01:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
What happened to that picture of him? I think he was holding a game show card or something... Speedboy Salesman 20:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
As we don't have a free image for Mr Fry yet, I inserted the placeholder image, which is used on many infoboxes without images ( Image:Replace this image male.svg). MarnetteD seems to think the infobox looks better without it, so I'd like to get a consensus (Keep placeholder image or Remove) -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 08:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I've replaced the placeholder image. It provides a good link to info about uploading, and stimulates action. Plus it was added by User:David Gerard, who is the Wikimedia UK press contact, and knows of which he speaks... ;) -- Quiddity ( talk) 20:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Allegedly Fry was the first of the 'alternative' comedians to say 'F-ck' on British TV. I believe it happened on Central Weekend ( Trevek 12:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC))
-G
"Fry struggled to keep his homosexuality secret during his teenage years at public school, and was celibate for 16 years." Does this mean he was celibate until 16 years old which is not particulary noteworthy or from some particular time which is not specified. I don't quite understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.192.84 ( talk) 21:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.11.8 ( talk) 20:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I have added dates for this period (reffed from a Sunday Herald article) to clarify that sentence - Dumelow ( talk) 20:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Are there any sources that confirm Stephen Fry's father is a Physicist? On "Who do you think you are", Fry stated that his father achieved a First in Physics, but I don't think he said that he was actually a Physicist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinjk ( talk • contribs) 06:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Humourist or Humorist. Well you learn something everyday!
After I was sure it was spelt with a u and found this, which showed it was humour, I assumed it must be humourist
Chris 42 put me right. Pretty conclusive.
Checking with <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humourist>, I found these references for humourist
and these for humorist at <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humorist>.
Cambridge Dictionaries Online has...
The free dictionary has both spellings.
chambers goes for humorist
wiktionary likes humourist as an alternative spelling.
www.google.co.uk has 13,400 entries for humourist and 31,500 for humorist so I guess I am not alone in spelling it incorrectly.
Conclusion: humorist is strongly preferred to humourist (in the UK and US) but as with all living languages it may yet change.
This article doesn't mention the role he played as Titus Groan's teacher (and later headmaster) in the miniseries adaption of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.240.65.152 ( talk) 20:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
There's no obvious section for this, and it doesn't seem big enough to deserve its own, but should Stephen's work with the Bonzos get a mention? He appeared with them in their reunion concert, and is also on their new cd released this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjl16 ( talk • contribs) 13:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I changed it to a 1988 former black cab, rather that a former 1988 black cab. As it was, it appeared that the cab was formerly 1988; which obviously makes little sense. 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 15:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone find the quotation where Hugh Laurie says that SF is not as intelligent as people seem to imagine? Was it in the Radio Times? 62.64.210.122 ( talk) 16:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
how come there is no metion of this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.246.66.77 ( talk) 01:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
This article says:
In 1983, the BBC offered them their own show, which became The Crystal Cube, a mixture of science fiction and mock documentary that was axed after the first episode… Forgiving Fry and Laurie for The Crystal Cube, the BBC commissioned…
yet The Crystal Cube says that the show was only a pilot. Which is correct? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
If it is established that Mr Fry is anti-religious (see above) does that not make his claim to be 'Jewish' utterly preposterous? He was baptised and raised a Christian (although his mother was of Jewish parentage) so that is his default religion, unless he has formally re-entered the Jewish faith. Fiddleback ( talk) 10:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Talk page now archived into two smaller, manageable pages. -- Uksam88 ( talk) 21:28, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
The guidance from
WP:ELNO is normally interpreted so that links to
twitter should be avoided (as External Links) and I propose removing Stephen Fry's twitter feed from the
External Links section. Considering more than one source in the
References section already cites and links to twitter.com, is there a consensus to apply the general policy here as I suggest and the link removed from
External Links (considering Fry's official site and blog is already linked in the infobox)?
Alternatively, if the consensus is to keep, and a clear rationale can be put forward, I suggest this example is then added to the
Wikipedia talk:External links#Twitter proposal to help with improvements to that guideline with respect to unique and noteworthy cases.—
Teahot (
talk) 12:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
No sure how reputable this link is but to give a balanced view of the man would it not be wise to include brushes with drugs?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20010218/ai_n14523575/
And there are probably more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.116.180 ( talk) 14:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure Stephen's position as an Atheist is fairly obvious now. He on numerous occasions has criticized belief in God and religion e.g. "Religion, shit it", and I point example to his discussion's with Christopher Hitchens. [10]. "If there was a God". We should at least regard him as a Humanist, surely? Whatever the case, he certainly isn't religious. Jacob Richardson ( talk) 17:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes belief means credulity, sometimes an expression of faith and hope which even the most sceptical atheist such as myself cannot but find inspiring. 'I have a dream' is the refrain of the most famous American speech of the last 100 years. Martin Luther King's chorus is perhaps the signature American credo..
Directly asked? He was asked on Never Mind the Buzzcocks if there was a God, he instantly said "no". Hardly a reliable source, but still :) J Milburn ( talk) 22:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) It seems apparent that we now have a reliable source stating his atheism clearly. Is there any point debating it further? VsevolodKrolikov ( talk) 02:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
he said I don't believ in God at the Hay- how many more times does he have to say it? 68.48.213.37 ( talk) 03:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Suran (most probably Surany at the time) could not have been a part of Slovakia, since the country did not come into existence until the late '90s. It was either in the Kingdom of Hungary or Chechoslovakia, please don't revert changes pointing to more accurate historical descriptions. Claiming that his maternal grandparents came from Slovakia is like saying Troy was a Turkish town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.1.215 ( talk) 17:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
In the article it says, "Fry would have been brought up in the United States had his father not turned down a job at Princeton University." Surely there are an infinite number of things which Fry might have been, had something which occured in his life, occured differently. What is the point of such a statement? Stephen Fry would have been brought up in Poland had Britain invaded that country two centuries ago and established a centre of academic excellence there to which Fry's father had been invited to become a permanent member of staff - unless he had married a different woman as a result and consequently not had Stephen Fry as a son. It didn't happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 ( talk) 11:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone object to a Bibliography section being added for books written by Fry? This would make cross-referencing them easier and a full {{ citation}} rather than the current prose of Stephen Fry#Literature.— Ash ( talk) 07:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Fry's influence through the use of Twitter has become considerable. I think there should be a wholly new section on this page entailing these new developments. Not to mention his original advocacy of and aid in publicising the site. As of now, his involvement with the website is mentioned a grand total of...1 time. Please see these articles for reference. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/gill-hornby/6349700/Dont-laugh---Stephen-Fry-is-giving-the-orders-now.html, http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/14/did-stephen-fry-and-twitter-really-score-a-victory-for-free-speech/, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7845823.stm Crazy Eddy ( talk) 19:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Something needs to go into the article about his slanderous incinuation that Poland was in some way complicit with Auschwitz. This "nonsense" is eminating from the lips of Stephen Fry. This is discrimination against Poles. It is the Poles that require protection, not Stephen Fry.
I believe the statement by Robert Szaniawski of the Polish Embassy in London was given in ENGLISH, so the source is acceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 19:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Why was Fry singling out Poland for anti-semitism? There are numerous stories of (gentile) Poles helping Jews around the period of WW2, despite the dangers if they were found out, and Jews have inhabited Poland for many centuries. Why is Fry linking his allegations about anti-semitism and homophobia in Poland with Auschwitz, given that it was a German concentration camp on German occupied territory throughout its period of operation? Although the largest ethnic grouping to be victems of the atrocites carried out in the Auschwitz concentration camp, there were also many gentile Poles who suffered there. Most of Poland was occupied and the small bit that was left was surrounded by enemy troops, so it makes no sense to talk about borders. Whatever the (legal) definition of slander and of discrimination, his remarks are deeply offensive to Poles. Everyone has the right to free speech, but for Stephen Fry to broadcast such blatently historically inaccurate statements (without being challenged by Jon Snow, the Channel Four News interviewer) is unacceptable. Would similar remarks against, say muslims, be tolerated? Stphen Fry is showing his ignorance of history, as are some of the others who are contributing to this discussion.
Anyway, I hope the actual Wikipedia articles are of quality and factually correct, unlike some of the comments on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 17:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Let's not jump to conclusions... Maybe Stephen Fry will apologise and retract his statement about Auschwitz?
However, the atrocities carried out at Auschwitz and other concentration camps were notable for how low the human race can stoop. This is an important topic and should not be clouded by falsehoods, such as those implied by Stephen Fry. Has it been established, by the way, that Saint Maximilian Kolbe was killed in Auschwitz by Polish Catholics? Or am I premature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 19:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone wrote above that statement by Robert Szaniawski of the Polish Embassy in London was given in ENGLISH, so the source is acceptable. Are statements in Polish unacceptable? 83.31.75.199 ( talk) 20:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
So why, Ghughesarch, did he say remember which side of the border Auschwitz was on? What do you expect Poles to do, even if there was someone who knew about a concentration camp? If a gun is pointed at your head, or a gun is pointed at your family, are you suprised people complied with the Germans? I reiterate, such comments by Stephen Fry are grossly offensive and it is quite reasonable for wikipedia to record such statements by Stephen Fry and the reaction to them. See for example rivers of blood speech. I agree the article should state (only) the facts, e.g. verbatim quotes, and should link to relevant moderated articles on issues such as WWII history and German concentration camps. Please let's quote the facts, rather than quoting wiki rules and regulations! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 20:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The actual video of the interview was on the web - I'll try to add a link to this discussion page.
See wiki-article Collaboration during World War II which states that There is a general consensus among historians that there was very little collaboration with the Nazis among the Polish nation as a whole, compared to other German-occupied countries and gives three sources. Perhaps the Stephen Fry wiki-article should link to and/or make use of this information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 21:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
You should be able to listen to the whole interview from the URL below: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/06/video-stephen-fry-says-david-cameron-has-aligned-himself-with-homophobes/
Note there is an entries for the Polish Law and Justice (PiS) party - suggest the links are added to the main article. Perhaps the Law and Justice entry should link back to Stephen Fry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 21:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Can we please remove the See Also links, they are over the top and very misleading! Filastin ( talk) 01:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Please do not continue to add this section regarding eUK for the following reasons:
If my last point is incorrect, I apologize. However, each of the other points must be addressed before this section meets Wikipedia standards. DKqwerty ( talk) 20:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
"All references are sourced from erepublik.co.uk, which is a first-party source. This is a conflict of interest of sorts, as only third-party sources are considered reliable sources." What!? So, let me get this straight, if Stephen Fry won the Nobel Peace Prize, it would be unacceptable to cite the Nobel Committee saying they'd awarded the prize? Who the hell are you supposed to cite!? "Nobel Prize Watchers Anonymous"? Where are they getting their references from in not the Nobel Committee? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.65.83 ( talk) 12:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
How about the newspapers that reported it? Sources should be reporting upon something that has nothing to do with themselves in order to be a third party source. Hope I was of assistance. Tory88 ( talk) 14:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Fry also appeared in the 1998 film "A Civil Action" where he played the part of Pinder, the expert witness on geological evidence. Lds8714 ( talk) 20:50, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
"Fry was the last person to be named Pipe Smoker of the Year before the award was discontinued.[citation needed]"
Stephen mentioned this in a B-series episode of QI (bears, bulbs, and bamboo; ty Dave). I'm not quite sure how to put in a citation, but the article is protected so an attempt would be moot. It's also interesting to note that he's the last listed on Pipe Smoker of the Year. — Kurr 21:51, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Stephen Fry also annouced that he wanted his name to be carved onto his gravestone as Stephen 'My Bottom is a Treasure House' Fry, in reference to one of the guests claiming that Thesaurus (the Latin word meaning 'Treasure House' of, in this case, words) could be used to refer to someones bottom, since the romans refered to their penis's as 'Saurus' (Latin for lizard) on an Episode of QI that was aired on Fashion week with fashion being the episodes theme. Shouldn't we honor Stephens wishes, but instead of waiting for him to die and put it on his gravestone, we should type his name on Wikipedia as Stephen John 'My Bottom is a Treasure House' Fry, as per his request. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TerryHopkins ( talk • contribs) 11:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the Blasphemy Debate here? In recent days Fry has become a more prominent critic of religion and the Blasphemy Debate is a good source to base a possible section on Fry's stance on religion. Also worth noting is his appearance on Channel 4's "history of the bible" in which he argues that the ten commandments are bad for society. Perhaps the fact that he remains a popular 'national treasure' in Britian whilst being so much against religion is worthy of mention as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chairmaneoin ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree. That is important. Is there a transcript?-- 99.41.172.224 ( talk) 03:00, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} "Advertisment" (Article sub-header) spelled incorrectly. Yorkshirelad6 ( talk) 00:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Done
This was recently reversed as unsourced. The Independent now has this article: Ella Pickover, Press Association (04 January 2010).
"Fry to take a break from Twitter".
The Independent. {{
cite news}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help) —
Ash (
talk) 23:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Fry's own website "The New Adventures Of..." stated on the 28th January 2010 that he will be withdrawing from his usual activities until the end of April. In the past he has done this to write novels, or to concentrate on specific projects.
His self imposed silence was broken at the start of April by the launch of Apple's new iPad device. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rend00 ( talk • contribs) 21:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Fry thought that he was born from a generation which was considered "Post-Punk", in which his manner and way of speaking would have been considered as "shoving someone's face in dirt" [1]. An interview with Craig Ferguson 2/23/10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arvindan Thekkadath ( talk • contribs) 02:11, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Please change Cock Tavern Theatre to The Cock Tavern Theatre, as the theatre now has its own wiki page to link to.
Mattebers 11:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Done
{{editsemiprotected}} Please update the "Video Game" section to include is upcoming continued role in the sequel to Fable II, Fable III.
Ciaran94 ( talk) 17:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Please update the section about Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry's friendship, adding the following citation:
http://www.hughlaurie.net/fryandlaurie.html
See sidebar for this quotation:
The best thing that could have happened to me, both in career terms and emotionally. He is absolutely my best friend. People sometimes call me a Renaissance man, but I'm not and Hugh is. He's a natural athlete. He's a gifted musician. He is clever, perceptive, has natural charisma. Sometimes it is thought that I'm the loud mouth and the dominant one, but we have been an equal partnership. And we have not been jealous of each other — I'm genuinely thrilled when good things happen for him. And I'm particularly thrilled by the way his acting career is going. -Stephen Fry, on Hugh Laurie
67.169.13.68 (
talk) 18:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Not done
'Twinings' has been misspelled as 'Twinnings' in the section mentioning the advertisements in which Stephen has appeared. Can someone fix this, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.20.162 ( talk) 10:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
The first picture of Fry has a caption containing a link to the GNU Project, which seems very improbable. Fry is not a computer scientist or software developer, as far as I can tell. I tried to alter the pipe to link to the GNU disambiguation page, but I have not succeeded yet. Perhaps someone who knows how can help. Ideally, the link should point to one of the pages the disambig page links to—possibly, Good News Unlimited? Donfbreed ( talk) 08:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.
The following request appears on that page:
![]() | Many of the articles were selected semi-automatically from a list of indefinitely semi-protected articles. Please confirm that the protection level appears to be still warranted, and consider unprotecting instead, before applying pending changes protection to the article. |
Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.
Please update the Queue page as appropriate.
Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC).
Is Stephen Fry DrSamuelJohnson [15] on Twitter? The Twitter character is erudite like him and has a sense of humour like him, and we all know what a Twitter junkie Fry is so has he created a comic alter ego on it? Does he have any alternative accounts on Twitter that are known about? 86.133.213.93 ( talk) 12:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Stephen Fry's domestic partnet was born in 1984. If they started their relationship in 1995 (as stated in the bio info sidebar), he would have been 11 years old! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.157.224.54 ( talk) 03:33, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
he is a Kentucky colonel 67.176.160.47 ( talk) 04:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I was bold, and removed this on the grounds that it is not a neutral, disinterested point of view suitable for an article about a living person:
However, there has also been criticism, one journalist describing him as a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person looks like. [2]
The journalist doesn't like the look of him? Really? I don't think this provides the balance that was being looked for. Trishm ( talk) 10:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Would an established contributor like to take one of my photos, here http://www.flickr.com/photos/iandrake/sets/72157623582140316/ to illustrate Stephen Fry's time at NorCat? (ref Early Life) Eyeeffdee ( talk) 23:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Since the Article page is semi-protected and I've not met the contribution conditions I'm not able to make any edits to the article. I'd be happy to make the photos of suitable licensing for Wikipedia usage Eyeeffdee ( talk) 16:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I have changed the licensing on this picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/iandrake/4415510656/in/set-72157623582140316/. An established contributor is welcome to add it to the article in some way. If you read the description on the flickr collection you will read how the photos were taken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyeeffdee ( talk • contribs) 22:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC) Eyeeffdee ( talk) 13:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the kind person that included my photo in the articles Eyeeffdee ( talk) 23:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
My addition:
was just reverted as "not credible and improperly cited". We can argue about citation style all night; but it's certainly credible - look in the OED. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 00:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok then, our obscure word loving friend, please explain how this controvesy centres around Auschwitz? When in fact most controversy was caused by what he said about Poland in the sense of them harbouring anti-semitism, nationalism etc. ValenShephard ( talk) 18:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Fry has repeatedly expressed his rejection of religion, though he says he prefers to call himself a humanist rather than an atheist. He appears (sourced) on Wikipedia's own List of atheists (film, radio, television and theater). There are many videos of him expressing these views, though there is a question of defining sourcing. [17] There are newspaper reports referring to him as an atheist, especially following his debate about the RC church Catholic Herald. There does not seem to be any real doubt about this. The citations used on the List page are: "I knew I couldn't believe in God, because I was fundamentally Hellenic in my outlook." Fry, Stephen (2004 (1997)). Moab is my washpot. Arrow books. pp. 382. ISBN 9780099457046. ^ "Sometimes belief means credulity, sometimes an expression of faith and hope which even the most sceptical atheist such as myself cannot but find inspiring." Stephen Fry, Spectator Lecture at the Royal Geographical Society, reprinted as 'Would I live in America? In a heartbeat', The Spectator, 9 May 2009, Pg. 28. Paul B ( talk) 15:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Stephen revealed in the Home and Houses episode of QI that he's given up smoking. While I am willing add this fact, it seems incomplete without know precisely when he stopped. Will it be fine to add this fact anyway? 81.23.57.177 ( talk) 14:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that the health section needs scrubbing for both irrelevancy and structure 121.45.202.29 ( talk) 12:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
His religion is marked as "None (Atheist)" but it can't be both "none" and "atheist". Perhaps it should be changed to non-theist? Are there any references? KylePIB ( talk) 00:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
That's what I came here to learn... Huw Powell ( talk) 07:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Fry is very much "out" about his close friendship with Steven Webb. There has been no denial that they are an item, widely reported in the press. As the pair have been photographed together at several social events, their "friendship" should at least be acknowledged and not doctored out of the respective entries as some keep doing. If they were not "out" they would not be out together as a couple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.243.76 ( talk) 22:05, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't mind replacing the old relationship, it was long and well reported, I just though as they were not married and is over it had little value in the infobox, but no worries. As for the daily mail claimed new lover ...there is little strength of report that he is in a new relationship, he has been seen with, I think its pretty soon to say its a relationship. Off2riorob ( talk) 22:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
It is now well beyond speculation that Fry and Steven Webb are partners. They appeared together as such at the Baftas and have done so for many months now. So stop editing out this fact, it's beyond dispute and has not been denied by either party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.83.194 ( talk) 15:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Heres the addition you are desirous of -
Fry's partner is now the actor Steven Webb with whom he has appeared at a number of recent public events.
only content about webb ... " is now reported to be seeing the 25-year-old actor Steven Webb."
and - Fry "and has, I gather, been spending a lot of time with aspiring young actor Steven Webb, 26"
Even if that is true, it still needs to be sourced. Creation7689 ( talk) 14:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
If there is more than one editor who agrees that a better source is needed, to me at least that a different source should be used. No one is against adding that information. Creation7689 ( talk) 16:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
But Fry has already had problems with the pitfalls of Twitter so probably he would not discuss it there, so Twitter is no more a reliable "source" than a newspaper article. The public outings are the "statement" and now that they have appeared socially together at major arts events, this says more than a social media posting which is not a "source". He probably does not Tweet on this to avoid spoiling the relationship with obsessive Tweeting after the previous break-up. And again, I have only suggested they are acknowledged as social "partners", nothing more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.83.194 ( talk) 21:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
This: [19] states they are indeed "partners". Has Fry Tweeted to contradict this source? Not just QI but also QED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.83.194 ( talk) 22:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Parentheses following a reference to The Liar describe it as a 1993 novel, which I know to be untrue. The article on the novel categorizes it as a 1991 novel which seems plausible. I lack the resources to do extensive research or even to edit the article at the moment (it's a telephone about half the size of a chocolate bar) but this error definitely needs to be fixed. -- Tasty monster (= TS ) 17:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
He is Cyclothymic, a more specific form of bipolar ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZb5YbtvYhw&feature=player_embedded). The article is half-locked so I cannot edit. Sverri ( talk) 20:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
So, over at Wim Kok they are placing honorary degrees under Alma Mater, this would clean things up a lot. But I don't know if Dr.h.c. is also the prefix for British universities. -- IIVeaa ( talk) 23:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Stephen Fry/Archive 1 | |
---|---|
Alma mater |
Queens' College, Cambridge University of Dundee ( Dr.h.c.) Anglia Ruskin University ( Dr.h.c.) University of Sussex ( Dr.h.c.) |
It might be nice to have a seperate paragraph for the charities he supports. An outline for a paragraph could be:
![]() |
An image used in this article,
File:Stephen Fry cropped.jpg, has been nominated for deletion at
Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests August 2011
Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.
This notification is provided by a Bot -- CommonsNotificationBot ( talk) 00:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC) |
Ariadne on Naxos
Features in 2010 recording performing as Major-Duomo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.78.158 ( talk) 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
He also recently did "Stephen Fry and the Great American Oil Spill" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.33.89.83 ( talk) 21:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Narrates Ocean Giants documentary series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.33.89.83 ( talk) 17:28, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Recently did "Stephen Fry's 100 Greatest Gadgets" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.33.89.83 ( talk) 19:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
please add in Other series that Stephen Fry is now involved in another nature documentary. He narrates a series of three episodes called Ocean Giants on BBC one about whales and dolphins.
PeachyFanOfFry ( talk) 16:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
This sentences is not correct;-
in fact, he met met Hugh Laurie through Emma Thompson and then was invited to join Footlights in his third year. This is is in his book "The Fry Chronicles" 81.136.149.137 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:38, 28 August 2011 (UTC).
Why is information about his recent television series, "Planet Word", not staying in the article? Is it because this page has been semi-protected? ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 23:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, if you look at this website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b015qqkl/Frys_Planet_Word_Identity/
that will give a source for the programme. People could also read about the programme in copies of the Radio Times or other television guides that they might have. If we really do need to have a source for this, I hope that the above website, coupled with references to the "Radio Times" (appropriate issues), will be sufficient. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 09:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, I think that the information should certainly be in about this series now. In the last edition of this series,
Jimmy Wales was on and mention was made of
Wikipedia!
ACEOREVIVED (
talk) 14:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Do you think this section might be better in the QI article? It probably belongs here too, but it seems odd to me that the information is in this article but not the other, considering there were other people involved. There were the QI researchers who originally wrote the "unluckiest man in the world" question and the guests who made jokes about it (though it doesn't say who they were).
It also seems odd that the section calls them the "other guests", Fry isn't a guest, he's the presenter. 114.75.60.48 ( talk) 13:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
It seems we at least are in agreement. Any other users around to comment on this? I have removed the text for now, but I dislike acting on the consensus of two. Яehevkor ✉ 23:44, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Right, I've said this before with regard to other articles and it's not come to much, but I'm going to have a crack at getting the Stephen Fry article up to at least Good Article standard. He's a pretty major figure (in the UK at least) and his popularity, occasionally controversial nature, and activity in so many fields appears to have attracted a somewhat scattergun input to the article, with drive-by editors dropping in individual bits of trivia, resulting in a lot of cruft and not much structure.
Therefore I'm doing a polish/rewrite in my userspace ( here) and will drop a first draft of that into the main article in a day or two. Feel free to comment on/criticise/make suggestions with regard to what I'm doing in my userspace version. Arthur Holland ( talk) 10:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I think it's a bit unruly and out of control at the minute. Is there any way some of this info could be migrated to other sections? Could do with a trim I think. Kaleeyed ( talk) 22:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
![]() |
An image used in this article,
File:Stephen Fry signature.svg, has been nominated for deletion at
Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests January 2012
Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.
This notification is provided by a Bot -- CommonsNotificationBot ( talk) 19:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC) |
Am I the only one not nauseated by this over-long eulogy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.63.119 ( talk) 17:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
This part of thread collapsed per WP:SOAPBOX, WP:TPG, etc. |
---|
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
|
One of the most noticeable features of Fry is his nose; is there any info on what happened t make it appear so 'distinguished'? Kitbag ( talk) 23:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
"While in the playground of Chesam Prep school, Stephen tripped, fell on his face and broke his nose. He intended on one day getting it fixed, but feared that it wouldn't make much of a difference in his appearance." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.145.74 ( talk) 00:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The OED needs to discover GoogleBooks Advanced Search. Uses in 1857 [21], 1867 [22], 1886 [23], 1908 [24], 1957 [25], 1959 [26], for starters. Need I go on? Now can we please delete this ridiculous misattribution? Softlavender ( talk) 04:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
In the Television section, Fry's work in Pocoyo is listed under the subsection Drama, which doesn't fit the series' spirit. Should it be listed in subsection Comedy or in a new subsection?-- Javierme ( talk) 21:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to make the addition that Stephen has an incredibly brief cameo at the beginning of Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes at the start of the film as the photographer - its all of 3/4 of second, but made me gasp when I did see it. Is this worth making as an addition ? Screencaps are available on Google Image search...your thoughts please. Deepshark ( talk) 07:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Not something necessarily worth mentioning in the article, but it would be great if we would be able to update the portrait picture -- Vera ( talk) 14:02, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
'He is on cordial terms with Prince Charles (despite a mild parody Fry performed in his role of King Charles I in the comedy programme Blackadder: The Cavalier Years), through his work with the Prince's Trust.'
Where is the 'mild parody' in this sketch. I will watch it but on first reading I can't seem to recall a similarity. Please forgive me if I am overlooking an obvious point.
Thanks.
DAFMM ( talk) 15:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
According to here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22782913 ,he made another suicide atempt in 2012. Probably worth putting in. Hammerfrog ( talk) 17:49, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
"Stephen Fry visits Nightingale House, London, December 2009". Link Nightingale House — home in San Francisco. Nightingale House = Florence Nightingale School of Nursing and Midwifery, isn't it? — Андрей Бондарь ( talk) 12:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
He had played Gordon Wyatt/Gordon Gordon/Noddy Comet in the television series bones. Booth's first psychologist in the series after Booth had shot a clown stereo box on the top of an ice cream truck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.74.179.66 ( talk) 19:11, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Also, Wagner & Me was 2010, not 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.29.234 ( talk) 17:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
I had always been under the impression that Stephen Fry was graduated with a First. The two citations in the article mention that his degree is in English Literature but not the honours classification. Ziyingjiang ( talk) 04:31, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Is Fry now an atheist or an agnostic? Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
References
I've recently brought up the subject of this article elsewhere and a half dozen or so of us agree that this article is far below par for such an esteemed fellow. It reads like a magazine/blog and it's about time it was rewritten from scratch in a chronologically structured proper encyclopedia article rather than scraps of trivia by topic. Especially given the traffic this gets and news reports mentioning Fry's wikipedia article and that the great man himself pops in here occasionally. He deserves a high quality article in which wikipedia can be proud of when people visit the page. We're all currently busy right now, but I just want anybody who watches this page to know that some of us intend working on a new article in a sandbox within the next few weeks. If there is anything you object to or would like to discuss please do so now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The article has been edited to include a very offensive homophobic statement at the beginning of the article. Please remove this ASAP 109.154.197.197 ( talk) 18:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
IMHO the mention of an age difference between any couple is WP:INDISCRIMINATE at best> It is also a WP:POV situation. Thus, it does not belong in this article. MarnetteD| Talk 15:37, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
He has also narrated the game The Stanley Parable, as the man who leads the main character Stanley through his office building, to try and discover where his colleagues have gone. 2A00:E60:7000:100:7:0:0:1 ( talk) 12:56, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to 8 external links on
Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 18:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
The voice recording here sounds absolutely nothing like Stephen Fry! It can't be him, or if it was him it has been altered from his natural voice entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.7.54.94 ( talk) 12:23, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Stephen Fry, referenced Guardian (UK) article, "New Labour's love of money is the root of all our troubles."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/oct/23/comment.politics2
The reference given is verifiable but is not a reliable source as Wikipedia references are required to be; it should therefore be stricken. Fry apparently has a diagnosis from the psychiatrist he currently sees. Fry cannot be Oliver James’s patient or else James would certainly have been struck off by the UK's General Medical Council for talking about Fry’s health publicly, which he has not been. James’s opinion on Fry’s condition is therefore medically irrelevant.
Wikipedia need not include or refer to every single verifiable mention of a topic. If it were to do so, we could not truly call it an "edited" site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feeling uncreative ( talk • contribs) 12:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Martinevans123, I saw you reverted [29] my edit, and the reason you gave was "yes, they are totally connected, the documentary makes this very clear - The Evening Standard is mentioned by name". I assume you're correct, as I cannot check it myself, that the documentary says Fry read reviews in The Evening Standard that night. However, I believe there's no reason to say he read bad reviews before his symptoms began; what is relevant to the article is that the show had to be cancelled, and the reason why it happened i.e. he suffered a serious psychiatric episode and required care. I don't think it's appropriate to say why he felt suicidal, or imply things about his mind and emotions; he did not kill himself, we're not a tabloid press or someone's memoirs, and that information isn't needed to understand some other part of the article.
I also believe it violates
WP:NPOV and
WP:BLP to claim or imply a person's severe psychiatric symptoms were caused by something other than psychiatric illness, even if a documentary makes that claim. I'm not sure the wording used in the documentary, but even if Fry literally says that, documentaries are edited and things are often taken out of context, and since we're dealing with a biography of a living person as well as addressing mental illness, I think it's best to be cautious. The claim goes against mainstream psychiatry, it's contentious, I believe it implies negative and potentially demanding damaging things about the article's subject, and it has no other relevance to the rest of the article, so I do not believe it should be included. For these reasons, I've reverted it. If you disagree, I would appreciate if you would discuss it here before reverting again. Thanks.
LibertyOrDeath (
talk) 01:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey Guys, just thought I would alert you to the fact that Stephen Fry has deleted his Twitter. This will have to be updated. Sorry I can't make the edit, I am currently working on another edit when I heard this. JoshMuirWikipedia ( talk) 07:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Fry is President of the Mental Health Chartity. In April 2016 he made comments saying victims of abuse should grow up and stop being self-pitying. Link( Coachtripfan ( talk) 11:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC))
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I request that we show a padlock on the page because i cant see one. 81.106.30.36 ( talk) 15:24, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Removal of all categories with the word "JEW" in!!! 81.106.30.36 ( talk) 20:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Not done Reasons not given for category removal. --‖
Ebyabe
talk -
Opposites Attract ‖ 20:57, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Because he isnt "JEWISH"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.49.239 ( talk) 08:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, he is, according to the Jewish Halacha. Everybody who was born to a Jewish mother is considered Jewish, no matter how he may define himself.
-- 88.73.242.208 ( talk) 14:16, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Fry [@stephenfry] (2014-06-24).
"@JulianStorey @JewishNewsUK Being Jewish is not a matter of religion: I'm a Jew, but don't follow judaism" (
Tweet). Archived from
the original on 2016-09-10. Retrieved 2016-09-10 – via
Twitter. {{
cite web}}
: |archive-date=
/ |archive-url=
timestamp mismatch; 2016-09-11 suggested (
help)
Use it how you want, full archive and everything if it ever goes away. Jerod Lycett ( talk) 03:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
What is this, a biography or a hagiography? The issue though is not in the information or the content, it is the tone in which is written which gives the impression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.78.16.172 ( talk) 20:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Fry [@stephenfry] (2015-01-17). "Gosh. @ElliottGSpencer and I go into a room as two people, sign a book and leave as one. Amazing" ( Tweet). Archived from the original on 2016-11-22. Retrieved 2016-11-22 – via Twitter.
Dropping this for future use too. Jerod Lycett ( talk) 19:08, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I do not think that the citations given are poor, and in one case the reference is directly to the quotation given in the cited part. I also don't think any of it's controversial. Further, the part about his marriage is factual, and should not be removed. edit referenced Jerod Lycett ( talk) 19:02, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that his husband is 30 years younger than he is Aacfsftw ( talk) 10:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Ok Aacfsftw ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 04:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Since there is a section ' Acclaim', shouldn't there also be a section 'Criticism'? If the author(s) of this article know nothing negative about Fry, they haven't been reading very widely. 31.48.245.26 ( talk) 11:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173855When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 05:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.ueastudent.com/image_uploads/lgbt--student-experience-repor.pdf{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.ueastudent.com/image_uploads/council-minutes-18-oct-final-.pdfWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 03:22, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Not sure of the status of audio books in a biblio - obviously the English DElight stuff is his own creative work, and therfoire belongs in a biblio, but he was merely presenting the Chekov stories CD. Happy to be corrected on this, but shouldn't audio books have their own section in a biblio? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doubledays ( talk • contribs) 10:37, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
I am currently listening to a Random House Audio edition of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy that is narrated by Stephen Fry. The book details say it was released 9-4-06. I don't know how to properly notate and cite this, so I will let someone else add it to the actual Wiki page. It does appear that this is the only book of the series he narrated, or at least the only that I can find on the library I have access to. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
69.87.112.1 (
talk) 17:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
I've just done a read through of the article and have noticed that it relies far too much on Fry's own description of his life from his autobiographies (and far too much trivia is quoted from them). It's important that we observe WP:PRIMARY. Oska ( talk) 10:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Re
this deletion for a second time, by
User:Oska, I don't see a problem with its inclusion. The first edit summary was "Removed trivia about crosswords"
, to which my reply was "(if Fry himself "... later stated that these crosswords were the only thing that got him through the ordeal", how can that be trivia?"
The second edit summary was "Please see WP:PRIMARY. We should not be relying so much on Fry's autobiographies in this article and this particular anecdote could be perceived as an attempt to win sympathy by Fry for his time in prison."
So which is it? I really don't see that this is "as an attempt to win sympathy by Fry." Please also see
WP:BRD Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
As Stephen has said, he likes Wikipedia "because I like to find out that I died, and that I'm currently in a ballet in China, and all the other very accurate and important things that Wikipedia brings us all." Surely this behooves a subsection within the "Personal Life" section (before "Sexuality") entitled "Prior to Stephen's Demise" containing "Stephen is, of course, dead and recovering from Prostate Cancer" or similar.
ATurtle05 ( talk) 18:51, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
The article currently claims that the FX4 taxi used by SF to get around London at the time was shipped to the US for his 2008 American road trip series. The supporting ref is rather weak, and it seems unlikely. Besides, I'm sure the FX4 featured in the show was left hand drive. FX4s are made in LHD for some markets, though they aren't common in the US. Can anybody clarify? -- Ef80 ( talk) 15:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
It seems most Wiki articles usually provide an area for “views” separate from personal life. This article has Fry’s views on a range of issues tucked into personal life when they very likely do not belong there? Sxologist ( talk) 15:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
"Chesham Preparatry School" should read "Chesham Preparatory School". "Pucklechurch Prison" was "Pucklechurch Remand Centre", which opened in 1968 and closed after a riot in 1990. On the same site HM Prison Ashfield opened in 1999. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halteres ( talk • contribs) 17:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Stephen Fry wrote a book that is missing from this article: Title: Paperweight, Publisher: William Heinemann Ltd (September 14, 1992), ISBN-10: 0434274089, ISBN-13: 978-0434274086 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GilleadFinknottle ( talk • contribs) 09:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Has he never been offered an OBE or similar? 213.31.95.78 ( talk) 07:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Wow, the man received a Covid jab. How utterly utterly world-shatteringly important. Anything about his prison sentence? Anything about his rabid objection 'as-a-Jew' to Israel daring to defend itself against rockets murdering her civilians? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.18.129 ( talk) 18:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
I have removed an episode I will not describe here since that would defeat the purpose. The edit is not a major one but is obvious at the article edit history and might count as a bold edit all the same. I can find only snippets of discussion about the issue of 'spent' offences in Europe and so use the justification here with full respect to anyone who might disagree. In Europe and other parts of the world, people who have committed offences are given the chance to start anew once time has passed and a number of criteria have been satisfied (this does not apply to the most serious offences). There are strict laws in place which prevent the reporting of the offences in question in most cases. The media may refer to it if the offence is relevant to a story (e.g. a person is re-convicted of an offence). These rules clearly apply to the edit I have made here. However, it is true that in the main US rules apply to Wikipedia. Yet it does seem that the best course is for commonsense to apply - i.e. where a person clearly resides in Europe and is European then Europea rules on spent offences should be followed. Finally, if a European (where 'spent' offences is the law) inserts information into a Wikipedia article which is covered by spent offence legislation, they are usually committing an offence in their own counrty. This opens Wiki edits up to some degree of risk about which they are likely unaware. My own view is that the unecessary information is best removed and so I have deleted. All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmentalist ( talk • contribs) 08:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
In Fry's third autobiography, "More Fool Me: A Memoir", he talks at length about his cocaine addiction which lasted for many years (from 1986 to 2001); it is surprising this isn't mentioned at all in this article. Mattmm ( talk) 09:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
He was the narrator for the og little big planet 2A00:23C5:68A4:3101:9FD:AA35:10B7:A3FF ( talk) 22:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I've always wondered why Stephen Fry's nose is so horribly bent. Does anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.158.70.67 ( talk) 20:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
In Moab (his autobiography), he said he broke it when he was young and never got it fixed. I have the audio version, so I can't tell you which page to look at, but it's there. Puccini999 01:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Did he spend time in prison? Three months for credit card fraud I think.
Actually, if anyone cares to have a look, Fry refers to his prison experience in a talk with Mark Lawson, available on YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJgxUzJh-SA , might be a clip back) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.124.209 ( talk) 12:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but the sentence: "At seventeen, after leaving Norfolk College of Arts and Technology, Fry absconded with a credit card stolen from a family friend, and as a result spent three months in Pucklechurch Prison for fraud." It just sounds like he intended to stay there, in the prison. "I hear the other classes purchase accommodations with these 'credit' cards. What can I get with this one?" "Three months in Pucklechurch." "Sounds lovely--Yes, let's book it starting to-day...." O0drogue0o ( talk) 13:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
We need a reliable source for this claim that Stephen Fry is related to C.B.Fry. Any suggestions of a link have been removed from the C.B.Fry article due to the fact that no one had been able to produce any proof other than Stephen Fry claimning so (perhaps in an attempt to purposely misinform) during an episode of QI. I think therefore that this claim should be removed, unless someone can cite a more reliable source.
Bold text==National Treasure?!?== Is Wikipedia supposed to be a fan site or an encyclopedia?
Why is it "probably a coincidence" that they are all anagrams or puns of their Monte Cristo counterparts? It seems very likely to me, given Stephen Fry's kind of humour. — OwenBlacker 21:40, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
This article needn't be in both Category:British actors and Category:English actors, nor in both Category:British comedians and Category:English comedians. Tim Ivorson 5 July 2005 08:47 (UTC)
The mention of 'stage fright' is a little too euphemistic for my liking. He was mentally unwell and has acknowledged this. - written by richardcavell in August 2005.
In the trivia section, on the book Tish and Pish - how to be of a speakingness like Stephen Fry ( ISBN 1840244666), the article states: "However, this... does not accurately reflect his mannerisms, and contains various grammatical errors (most notably in the title)." - Surely this is POV, and need not be included, has anyone noteworthy said this? And surely the fact that it is not grammatically correct is the whole point. I haven't personally read the book so I wouldn't know, but this just seemed to jump out at me. M A Mason 20:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I cut the ref to the reader of Harry Potter in the US, as entirely irrelevant to Stephen Fry article, but I can't work out where to add this info in the mass of HP pages. So here it is for anyone who cares enough to find a home for it: "(this is Jim Dale's job in the US)"
-- I don't understand why quite a large part of his work is "entirely irrelevant" to this article? -- Chris G
NORCAT is Norfolk College of Art and Technology, in King's Lynn. Stephen took his A levels there after expulsion from school and had his first (only?) hetrosexual experience with a fellow student. Is discussed in "Moab" but I don't have a copy to hand for reference. Epeeist smudge
Stephen also appeared on an anniversary edition which featured the then-current champions against a team of famous UC-alumni. Charles Moore is the only other competitor I can remember. Stephen completely dominated the show, winning it for the old-boys nearly single-handed.
I've taken out the link to the Daniel Cohen, because I felt it was causing more then a little confusion, what with the Cohen linked being a totally different one to the one being referred too. Voici 20:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure he no longer drives a black cab- if I find a source and remember to return, I'll alter this. EvocativeIntrigue TALK | EMAIL 23:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't help noticing that most of the sufferers with bi-polar disorder that Stephen Fry spoke to (or about, with regard to the Swartz's daughter) on his programme (and of course Stephen himself) had Jewish ancestry. Is bi-polar disorder more prevalent (or more diaganosed) among Jews or was this just a coincidence? Jooler 22:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Marianne Neumann, an Austrian of Jewish descent.
Didn't his recent appearance on the BBC's genealogy show Who Do You Think You Are? establish that his mother's family were actually from Slovakia? Indisciplined 21:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed references to Fry's supposed Atheism. He may well be an Atheist, but I cannot find any reference to suggest that he is. Not conforming to organised religion does not necessarily mean that one disbelieves in the existance of a god. 219.90.233.149 03:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
he does make frequent implicit reference to his atheism in QI. reinstate 144.82.194.68 23:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the fact that he is quoted as saying 'religion. shit it!' on the wikiquotes page kind of implies his atheism. Or at least agnosticism.
I don't think we need to point out that he's an atheist, any more than we need to point out that he can walk using his legs. He's British and not gormless, of course he's atheist. - 88.109.64.43 22:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
The following are what Fry said in a conversation with Hitchens for The Blasphemy Debate at the Hay Festival 2005.
Stop trying to package as though Fry is not an atheist. He clearly is. Stampit ( talk) 23:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
In Fry's latest work "Stephen Fry in America", he claims himself to be an atheist (p. 86) and to harbor anti-religious feelings (p. 145) Surely this should be worked in-no? 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 18:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
The exact quote from page 86 is: "Only sneering liberal atheist scrum like me would raise an eyebrow at this outward and visible form of an inward and spiritual creed" (Fry, S. "Stephen Fry in America". Hammersmith, UK, HarperCollins 2008).
And from page 145.
"The atheist anti-religionist in me bridles, but results are results"(ibid).
That's about as clear an admission as one could fine-no? 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 13:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Why the strident denial of two direct quotes, penned by the man under his own name? The strongest evidence this page has is the evidence that has come directly from its subject 167.102.242.130 ( talk) 19:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I think we can at least now be in agreement that Fry is anti religion. From page 226 of his new book: "As one who abominates religion and most religious organisations..." 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 16:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
"Atheist" is not a well-defined category, and we are not in the business of defining it, nor of figuring out what labels to stick on Mr. Fry. Our job is only to aggregate things said by other people, especially when it comes to such a totally subjective term as 'atheist'. Does an atheist specifically deny the existence of any gods? Does he make no truth-claims about the existence of gods, yet without asserting agnostically that no truth-claims could be made about the existence of gods? Or does he just reject some particular brand of theism? There are all sorts of epistemological and theological issues to be waded through in these matters, as our own article on atheism reflects. We would be perfectly justified in repeating, and citing, (1) things Mr. Fry himself has said on the topic of religion, and his own attitude toward it; or, failing that, (2) things our reliable sources say about his attitude toward religion, again with citations. It should never appear that "Wikipedia itself" is claiming that Mr. Fry is an atheist, or an agnostic, or any such contentious thing -- that's simply not our place. — Dan | talk 22:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
He has self-identified, both as an atheist and an anti-religionist in his own work; has broadly agreed with the work of atheist champion Christopher Hitchens (at the Hay in 05), and is openly supporting Richard Dawkins atheist pride movement. But if that is not proof enough, then I respect that.
I wasn't suggesting that we as authors have any authority-merely pointing out Fry's own admissions. 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 03:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that's fairly conclusive. Can we move on. Iiidonkeyiii ( talk) 12:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Sigh: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=stephen+fry+atheist Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
How can you source the fact that he does Twinings adverts (btw not just voiceovers, he appears physically in them and addresses the viewer)? He definitely does it though, I've seen the adverts...
Check the link: http://www.twinings.co.uk/everyday_tv_advert_intro.asp Arthur Holland 15:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
A previous version of this page mentioned Fry's sympathy for the Labour Party. The next sentence said, "He is on friendly terms with Prince Charles, however..." Since the monarchy is apolitical (and New Labour has not indicated a wish to abolish the monarchy) I feel that the "however" seems out of place. I have restructured the sentence too - I hope people feel this works better. "He is also on friendly terms with Prince Charles..."
Also - how can we go about sourcing the fact that Fry does lots of work for the Prince's Trust?
-- Philipdw 23:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
The article says that in "Stephen Fry: The Secret Life of the Manic-Depressive", Fry
interviews celebrities (such as Robbie Williams, Rick Stein, Carrie Fisher, Richard Dreyfuss, and Tony Slattery) and non-famous persons, all of whom also suffer from the illness.
I'm pretty sure that the programme said that Robbie Williams suffered from depression, not bipolar disorder. Fry interviews Williams because of the apparent 'mania' that Williams displays in public, but this is attributed to his stage persona rather than a symptom of bipolarity. -- Stratocastermagic 23:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Just a note about the "Cyclothymia" on the front page. I am a psychotherapist and Fry's diagnosis could be Bipolar I or II Disorder, not Cyclothymia if he ever had "Severe Depression" as the article states. It would be considered Bpolar II if he had Hypomanic episodes, that is the associated traits of Mania, but still managed to function in daily living. He would have Bipolar I if he ever had an episode of Mania, regardless of any state of depression. This diagnosis is based on the DSM-IV-TR (2000), a lot of people don't like the book, but this is what it says, take or leave it. I hope this was helpful.
It's either British (legal, civic national) or Jewish/English (ethnic national). But certainly not simply English. I amended this line last week, and have had to do so again. (I think British is best, but stick with the ethnic national theme that my betters insist on - only correct it). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.47.159.12 ( talk) 01:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC).
I agree with Gwernol. Personally i think it's good to be as specific as possible. We know he was born in England, we know he has been referred to in the media as "English", i'm sure you could find a number of sources where he self identifies as "English". Amo 03:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
It is none of our business whether to call England a nation, or to decide which of citizenship, 'nationality', and 'ethnicity' is the most important category of personhood. What we should be concerned with is describing Mr. Fry in terms accordant with those used by our reputable sources. If he is always called English and never British, then we should describe him as English and cite the sources that support our decision, regardless of what we think about the correctness of the term. If the reverse, then we should call him British. If the sources are split then we should say that. I suspect his Judaism is usually mentioned in addition to his being either British or English, so probably we should throw that in too. Perhaps it would be best to include all three, like this: ' British/ English; Jewish'. Thoughts? — Dan | talk 21:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Why no photo for the brilliant Stephen Fry?
He is English. Look at wiki pages for famous welsh people ([Tom Jones]) they more often than not they are welsh not British —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.224.143 ( talk) 12:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Hang on, there's a picture of him in Blackadder on this page now. Wouldnt a picture of the actual Stephen Fry without Second World War uniform and fake moustache be more suitable? I understand it's hard to put on picture but this seems like a really bad alternative. Allthecoolnamesweretaken 19:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I altered the (unsourced) comment indicating Fry himself said he was "born to play" the part of Oscar Wilde in the 1997 film. I altered it to say that many commentators at the time used the epithet "born to be Wilde". I did so for several reasons:
My change was reverted within a few minutes to the similarly unsubstantiated (but IMO less plausible and less informative) earlier version with a comment that my change wasn't sourced... 82.15.52.66 10:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
In the paragraph under Career on Vivian Stanshall, it says:
That "most notable Fry" is surely an error, but I'm not sure if it was supposed to be some other name there instead. Hv 15:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Why has someone added that Fry is cyclothymic? He has suffered both major depressive episodes and full manic episodes. He clearly meets the criteria for Bipolar 1 disorder. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.99.139.62 ( talk) 20:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC).
Why? Because we have the interview with him stating the facts as he knows them and they would seem to be well diagnosed. You may well have professional grounds to debate this but wikipedia is not a debating blogsite. Your opinions are, I am sure, well reasoned and speak to your background on the subject, but, until he becomes your patient they are opinions and should nott trump a sourced article. Especially since it is a first person item and not some third party recollection. However, I would suggest that you might want to take your concerns to the wikiproject for biographies to see if you can get some kind of consensus and whatever they decide will be okay by me. MarnetteD | Talk 04:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Gresham's often claim him as an old boy, but Fry himself denied ever going to Gresham's when I saw him at a book launch in Norwich in 1998. Is there a definite reference for the claim? Ghughesarch 12:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
In Frys latest book based on the TV series about his travels round America he states he never went to Gresham's and does know that people keep adding this incorrect information to Wikipedia Penrithguy ( talk) 14:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know, Mr. Fry started writing "Revenge" and then, at one moment, he realized he was writing what could be considered a modern day "Count Of Monte Cristo". So I don't know if it would be accurate to say "Revenge" is Stephen Fry's take on "The Count Of Monte Cristo", since he wasn't thinking of "The Count Of Monte Cristo" when he thought of his novel, but after he had started and noted the similarities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.45.41.59 ( talk • contribs).
My latest novel, "Revenge", cause me a very specific hair-raising and sleep-depriving problem. I had planned it out in my head, which is about as much planning as I ever do, not being an index-card, scnario, or flow-chart person. It was a story of wrongful imprisonment and subsequent vengeance. As I thought the narrative through, a little voice started whispering wicked thoughts into my ear.
"This isn't very original", it would say. "I've heard it before."
At first I didn't pay much attention. When did any of us last read an original story? Original writing is the issue. Treatment is all. But then one night I sat bolt upright in bed and screamed in horror. The truth had suddenly exploded into my consciousness.
The story, the plot I had been working out with such pleasure, was not just unoriginal, it was a straight steal, virtually identical in all but period and style to Alexandre Dumas's "The Count Of Monte Cristo".
What does a writer do on such ocassions? Abandon his narrative and embark upon another? I was already three chapters in, and those authorial juices that take so long to summon up were flowing nicely. "
There is more, but right now I'm in a hurry and can't write it all, so if someone has a copy and can write it, it would be nice. Anyway, he goes on telling that he then went to buy all the editions of The Count Of Monte Cristo he could find, because he was sure that "Dumas pinched the story too", and he found one introduction to one of the editions that said that the story was, in Dumas's day, a kind of urban legend that he had "gratefully lifted". The then continued working since he was sure the outline was not original to Dumas,that a "literally reworking" or "homage" was perfectly acceptable, and that it wasn't plagiarism.
Now, in my opinion, that constitutes an original idea that happened to be incredibly similar to another idea who wasn't that original after all. Fry thought of that story in his head, Dumas's took it from an urban legend. It is debatable but I don't think it would be fair that it's his take on the novel, since he said that it's a homage or reworking after he had already started to write it as an original, probably to shut up critics and people who would accuse him of plagiarism.
It's a fact - I've seen it on QI
I feel it is a fact that will enhance and complete the picture that we are painting about the great man himself.
I'm watching Channel 4's Shrink Rap and they're doing Fry, he is talking about being abused by a 17/18 year old boy when he was 15 at school. I would consider this notable for the article, can somebody add this? Andrewjd 22:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
"his renowned intellect has most recently led to the success of television panel game QI, of which he is host."
isn't that slightly biased? :P -- Leladax 17:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
While I understand that much of this article is written in an homage to the style of its subject, I have nonetheless made some edits to put a lid on some of the excess. Piperdown 02:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I know there's a source for it, but the claim he was one of 5 people to know the ending of the final Harry Potter book is pretty wrong.
JK Rowling knew it. She's also said someone in her family also was allowed to read it, I think it was her husband. Then there's the two audiobook readers, Jim Dale and Stephen Fry. Also, the two illustrators, Mary Grandpre and Jason Cockcroft. And there's her editors at both Bloomsbury and Scholastic. And, the translators for the various world editions. There are quite a few more people than 5 who knew the ending of the book.
Don't know if this is worth putting in the article, but I just thought I'd mention it. Tredanse 14:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and added an extra comment to that paragraph, sourcing each person involved (apart from JK Rowling, you don't need a source to know that she knew the ending of her own book). The sources were a Jonathan Ross interview, a Time Magazine article, Detroit Free Press and a verbatim excerpt from a New York Times article on a fansite - the latter being the only one people might have a problem with in terms of reputable sources, but the actual New York Times article needs registration to view. Tredanse 01:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
What happened to that picture of him? I think he was holding a game show card or something... Speedboy Salesman 20:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
As we don't have a free image for Mr Fry yet, I inserted the placeholder image, which is used on many infoboxes without images ( Image:Replace this image male.svg). MarnetteD seems to think the infobox looks better without it, so I'd like to get a consensus (Keep placeholder image or Remove) -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 08:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I've replaced the placeholder image. It provides a good link to info about uploading, and stimulates action. Plus it was added by User:David Gerard, who is the Wikimedia UK press contact, and knows of which he speaks... ;) -- Quiddity ( talk) 20:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Allegedly Fry was the first of the 'alternative' comedians to say 'F-ck' on British TV. I believe it happened on Central Weekend ( Trevek 12:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC))
-G
"Fry struggled to keep his homosexuality secret during his teenage years at public school, and was celibate for 16 years." Does this mean he was celibate until 16 years old which is not particulary noteworthy or from some particular time which is not specified. I don't quite understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.192.84 ( talk) 21:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.11.8 ( talk) 20:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I have added dates for this period (reffed from a Sunday Herald article) to clarify that sentence - Dumelow ( talk) 20:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Are there any sources that confirm Stephen Fry's father is a Physicist? On "Who do you think you are", Fry stated that his father achieved a First in Physics, but I don't think he said that he was actually a Physicist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinjk ( talk • contribs) 06:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Humourist or Humorist. Well you learn something everyday!
After I was sure it was spelt with a u and found this, which showed it was humour, I assumed it must be humourist
Chris 42 put me right. Pretty conclusive.
Checking with <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humourist>, I found these references for humourist
and these for humorist at <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humorist>.
Cambridge Dictionaries Online has...
The free dictionary has both spellings.
chambers goes for humorist
wiktionary likes humourist as an alternative spelling.
www.google.co.uk has 13,400 entries for humourist and 31,500 for humorist so I guess I am not alone in spelling it incorrectly.
Conclusion: humorist is strongly preferred to humourist (in the UK and US) but as with all living languages it may yet change.
This article doesn't mention the role he played as Titus Groan's teacher (and later headmaster) in the miniseries adaption of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.240.65.152 ( talk) 20:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
There's no obvious section for this, and it doesn't seem big enough to deserve its own, but should Stephen's work with the Bonzos get a mention? He appeared with them in their reunion concert, and is also on their new cd released this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjl16 ( talk • contribs) 13:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I changed it to a 1988 former black cab, rather that a former 1988 black cab. As it was, it appeared that the cab was formerly 1988; which obviously makes little sense. 69.137.144.26 ( talk) 15:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone find the quotation where Hugh Laurie says that SF is not as intelligent as people seem to imagine? Was it in the Radio Times? 62.64.210.122 ( talk) 16:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
how come there is no metion of this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.246.66.77 ( talk) 01:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
This article says:
In 1983, the BBC offered them their own show, which became The Crystal Cube, a mixture of science fiction and mock documentary that was axed after the first episode… Forgiving Fry and Laurie for The Crystal Cube, the BBC commissioned…
yet The Crystal Cube says that the show was only a pilot. Which is correct? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
If it is established that Mr Fry is anti-religious (see above) does that not make his claim to be 'Jewish' utterly preposterous? He was baptised and raised a Christian (although his mother was of Jewish parentage) so that is his default religion, unless he has formally re-entered the Jewish faith. Fiddleback ( talk) 10:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Talk page now archived into two smaller, manageable pages. -- Uksam88 ( talk) 21:28, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
The guidance from
WP:ELNO is normally interpreted so that links to
twitter should be avoided (as External Links) and I propose removing Stephen Fry's twitter feed from the
External Links section. Considering more than one source in the
References section already cites and links to twitter.com, is there a consensus to apply the general policy here as I suggest and the link removed from
External Links (considering Fry's official site and blog is already linked in the infobox)?
Alternatively, if the consensus is to keep, and a clear rationale can be put forward, I suggest this example is then added to the
Wikipedia talk:External links#Twitter proposal to help with improvements to that guideline with respect to unique and noteworthy cases.—
Teahot (
talk) 12:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
No sure how reputable this link is but to give a balanced view of the man would it not be wise to include brushes with drugs?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20010218/ai_n14523575/
And there are probably more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.116.180 ( talk) 14:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure Stephen's position as an Atheist is fairly obvious now. He on numerous occasions has criticized belief in God and religion e.g. "Religion, shit it", and I point example to his discussion's with Christopher Hitchens. [10]. "If there was a God". We should at least regard him as a Humanist, surely? Whatever the case, he certainly isn't religious. Jacob Richardson ( talk) 17:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes belief means credulity, sometimes an expression of faith and hope which even the most sceptical atheist such as myself cannot but find inspiring. 'I have a dream' is the refrain of the most famous American speech of the last 100 years. Martin Luther King's chorus is perhaps the signature American credo..
Directly asked? He was asked on Never Mind the Buzzcocks if there was a God, he instantly said "no". Hardly a reliable source, but still :) J Milburn ( talk) 22:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) It seems apparent that we now have a reliable source stating his atheism clearly. Is there any point debating it further? VsevolodKrolikov ( talk) 02:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
he said I don't believ in God at the Hay- how many more times does he have to say it? 68.48.213.37 ( talk) 03:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Suran (most probably Surany at the time) could not have been a part of Slovakia, since the country did not come into existence until the late '90s. It was either in the Kingdom of Hungary or Chechoslovakia, please don't revert changes pointing to more accurate historical descriptions. Claiming that his maternal grandparents came from Slovakia is like saying Troy was a Turkish town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.1.215 ( talk) 17:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
In the article it says, "Fry would have been brought up in the United States had his father not turned down a job at Princeton University." Surely there are an infinite number of things which Fry might have been, had something which occured in his life, occured differently. What is the point of such a statement? Stephen Fry would have been brought up in Poland had Britain invaded that country two centuries ago and established a centre of academic excellence there to which Fry's father had been invited to become a permanent member of staff - unless he had married a different woman as a result and consequently not had Stephen Fry as a son. It didn't happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 ( talk) 11:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone object to a Bibliography section being added for books written by Fry? This would make cross-referencing them easier and a full {{ citation}} rather than the current prose of Stephen Fry#Literature.— Ash ( talk) 07:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Fry's influence through the use of Twitter has become considerable. I think there should be a wholly new section on this page entailing these new developments. Not to mention his original advocacy of and aid in publicising the site. As of now, his involvement with the website is mentioned a grand total of...1 time. Please see these articles for reference. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/gill-hornby/6349700/Dont-laugh---Stephen-Fry-is-giving-the-orders-now.html, http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/14/did-stephen-fry-and-twitter-really-score-a-victory-for-free-speech/, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7845823.stm Crazy Eddy ( talk) 19:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Something needs to go into the article about his slanderous incinuation that Poland was in some way complicit with Auschwitz. This "nonsense" is eminating from the lips of Stephen Fry. This is discrimination against Poles. It is the Poles that require protection, not Stephen Fry.
I believe the statement by Robert Szaniawski of the Polish Embassy in London was given in ENGLISH, so the source is acceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 19:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Why was Fry singling out Poland for anti-semitism? There are numerous stories of (gentile) Poles helping Jews around the period of WW2, despite the dangers if they were found out, and Jews have inhabited Poland for many centuries. Why is Fry linking his allegations about anti-semitism and homophobia in Poland with Auschwitz, given that it was a German concentration camp on German occupied territory throughout its period of operation? Although the largest ethnic grouping to be victems of the atrocites carried out in the Auschwitz concentration camp, there were also many gentile Poles who suffered there. Most of Poland was occupied and the small bit that was left was surrounded by enemy troops, so it makes no sense to talk about borders. Whatever the (legal) definition of slander and of discrimination, his remarks are deeply offensive to Poles. Everyone has the right to free speech, but for Stephen Fry to broadcast such blatently historically inaccurate statements (without being challenged by Jon Snow, the Channel Four News interviewer) is unacceptable. Would similar remarks against, say muslims, be tolerated? Stphen Fry is showing his ignorance of history, as are some of the others who are contributing to this discussion.
Anyway, I hope the actual Wikipedia articles are of quality and factually correct, unlike some of the comments on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 17:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Let's not jump to conclusions... Maybe Stephen Fry will apologise and retract his statement about Auschwitz?
However, the atrocities carried out at Auschwitz and other concentration camps were notable for how low the human race can stoop. This is an important topic and should not be clouded by falsehoods, such as those implied by Stephen Fry. Has it been established, by the way, that Saint Maximilian Kolbe was killed in Auschwitz by Polish Catholics? Or am I premature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 19:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone wrote above that statement by Robert Szaniawski of the Polish Embassy in London was given in ENGLISH, so the source is acceptable. Are statements in Polish unacceptable? 83.31.75.199 ( talk) 20:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
So why, Ghughesarch, did he say remember which side of the border Auschwitz was on? What do you expect Poles to do, even if there was someone who knew about a concentration camp? If a gun is pointed at your head, or a gun is pointed at your family, are you suprised people complied with the Germans? I reiterate, such comments by Stephen Fry are grossly offensive and it is quite reasonable for wikipedia to record such statements by Stephen Fry and the reaction to them. See for example rivers of blood speech. I agree the article should state (only) the facts, e.g. verbatim quotes, and should link to relevant moderated articles on issues such as WWII history and German concentration camps. Please let's quote the facts, rather than quoting wiki rules and regulations! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 20:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The actual video of the interview was on the web - I'll try to add a link to this discussion page.
See wiki-article Collaboration during World War II which states that There is a general consensus among historians that there was very little collaboration with the Nazis among the Polish nation as a whole, compared to other German-occupied countries and gives three sources. Perhaps the Stephen Fry wiki-article should link to and/or make use of this information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 21:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
You should be able to listen to the whole interview from the URL below: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/06/video-stephen-fry-says-david-cameron-has-aligned-himself-with-homophobes/
Note there is an entries for the Polish Law and Justice (PiS) party - suggest the links are added to the main article. Perhaps the Law and Justice entry should link back to Stephen Fry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.227.144 ( talk) 21:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Can we please remove the See Also links, they are over the top and very misleading! Filastin ( talk) 01:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Please do not continue to add this section regarding eUK for the following reasons:
If my last point is incorrect, I apologize. However, each of the other points must be addressed before this section meets Wikipedia standards. DKqwerty ( talk) 20:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
"All references are sourced from erepublik.co.uk, which is a first-party source. This is a conflict of interest of sorts, as only third-party sources are considered reliable sources." What!? So, let me get this straight, if Stephen Fry won the Nobel Peace Prize, it would be unacceptable to cite the Nobel Committee saying they'd awarded the prize? Who the hell are you supposed to cite!? "Nobel Prize Watchers Anonymous"? Where are they getting their references from in not the Nobel Committee? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.65.83 ( talk) 12:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
How about the newspapers that reported it? Sources should be reporting upon something that has nothing to do with themselves in order to be a third party source. Hope I was of assistance. Tory88 ( talk) 14:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Fry also appeared in the 1998 film "A Civil Action" where he played the part of Pinder, the expert witness on geological evidence. Lds8714 ( talk) 20:50, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
"Fry was the last person to be named Pipe Smoker of the Year before the award was discontinued.[citation needed]"
Stephen mentioned this in a B-series episode of QI (bears, bulbs, and bamboo; ty Dave). I'm not quite sure how to put in a citation, but the article is protected so an attempt would be moot. It's also interesting to note that he's the last listed on Pipe Smoker of the Year. — Kurr 21:51, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Stephen Fry also annouced that he wanted his name to be carved onto his gravestone as Stephen 'My Bottom is a Treasure House' Fry, in reference to one of the guests claiming that Thesaurus (the Latin word meaning 'Treasure House' of, in this case, words) could be used to refer to someones bottom, since the romans refered to their penis's as 'Saurus' (Latin for lizard) on an Episode of QI that was aired on Fashion week with fashion being the episodes theme. Shouldn't we honor Stephens wishes, but instead of waiting for him to die and put it on his gravestone, we should type his name on Wikipedia as Stephen John 'My Bottom is a Treasure House' Fry, as per his request. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TerryHopkins ( talk • contribs) 11:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the Blasphemy Debate here? In recent days Fry has become a more prominent critic of religion and the Blasphemy Debate is a good source to base a possible section on Fry's stance on religion. Also worth noting is his appearance on Channel 4's "history of the bible" in which he argues that the ten commandments are bad for society. Perhaps the fact that he remains a popular 'national treasure' in Britian whilst being so much against religion is worthy of mention as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chairmaneoin ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree. That is important. Is there a transcript?-- 99.41.172.224 ( talk) 03:00, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} "Advertisment" (Article sub-header) spelled incorrectly. Yorkshirelad6 ( talk) 00:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Done
This was recently reversed as unsourced. The Independent now has this article: Ella Pickover, Press Association (04 January 2010).
"Fry to take a break from Twitter".
The Independent. {{
cite news}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help) —
Ash (
talk) 23:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Fry's own website "The New Adventures Of..." stated on the 28th January 2010 that he will be withdrawing from his usual activities until the end of April. In the past he has done this to write novels, or to concentrate on specific projects.
His self imposed silence was broken at the start of April by the launch of Apple's new iPad device. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rend00 ( talk • contribs) 21:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Fry thought that he was born from a generation which was considered "Post-Punk", in which his manner and way of speaking would have been considered as "shoving someone's face in dirt" [1]. An interview with Craig Ferguson 2/23/10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arvindan Thekkadath ( talk • contribs) 02:11, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Please change Cock Tavern Theatre to The Cock Tavern Theatre, as the theatre now has its own wiki page to link to.
Mattebers 11:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Done
{{editsemiprotected}} Please update the "Video Game" section to include is upcoming continued role in the sequel to Fable II, Fable III.
Ciaran94 ( talk) 17:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Please update the section about Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry's friendship, adding the following citation:
http://www.hughlaurie.net/fryandlaurie.html
See sidebar for this quotation:
The best thing that could have happened to me, both in career terms and emotionally. He is absolutely my best friend. People sometimes call me a Renaissance man, but I'm not and Hugh is. He's a natural athlete. He's a gifted musician. He is clever, perceptive, has natural charisma. Sometimes it is thought that I'm the loud mouth and the dominant one, but we have been an equal partnership. And we have not been jealous of each other — I'm genuinely thrilled when good things happen for him. And I'm particularly thrilled by the way his acting career is going. -Stephen Fry, on Hugh Laurie
67.169.13.68 (
talk) 18:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Not done
'Twinings' has been misspelled as 'Twinnings' in the section mentioning the advertisements in which Stephen has appeared. Can someone fix this, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.20.162 ( talk) 10:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
The first picture of Fry has a caption containing a link to the GNU Project, which seems very improbable. Fry is not a computer scientist or software developer, as far as I can tell. I tried to alter the pipe to link to the GNU disambiguation page, but I have not succeeded yet. Perhaps someone who knows how can help. Ideally, the link should point to one of the pages the disambig page links to—possibly, Good News Unlimited? Donfbreed ( talk) 08:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.
The following request appears on that page:
![]() | Many of the articles were selected semi-automatically from a list of indefinitely semi-protected articles. Please confirm that the protection level appears to be still warranted, and consider unprotecting instead, before applying pending changes protection to the article. |
Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.
Please update the Queue page as appropriate.
Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC).
Is Stephen Fry DrSamuelJohnson [15] on Twitter? The Twitter character is erudite like him and has a sense of humour like him, and we all know what a Twitter junkie Fry is so has he created a comic alter ego on it? Does he have any alternative accounts on Twitter that are known about? 86.133.213.93 ( talk) 12:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Stephen Fry's domestic partnet was born in 1984. If they started their relationship in 1995 (as stated in the bio info sidebar), he would have been 11 years old! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.157.224.54 ( talk) 03:33, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
he is a Kentucky colonel 67.176.160.47 ( talk) 04:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I was bold, and removed this on the grounds that it is not a neutral, disinterested point of view suitable for an article about a living person:
However, there has also been criticism, one journalist describing him as a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person looks like. [2]
The journalist doesn't like the look of him? Really? I don't think this provides the balance that was being looked for. Trishm ( talk) 10:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Would an established contributor like to take one of my photos, here http://www.flickr.com/photos/iandrake/sets/72157623582140316/ to illustrate Stephen Fry's time at NorCat? (ref Early Life) Eyeeffdee ( talk) 23:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Since the Article page is semi-protected and I've not met the contribution conditions I'm not able to make any edits to the article. I'd be happy to make the photos of suitable licensing for Wikipedia usage Eyeeffdee ( talk) 16:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I have changed the licensing on this picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/iandrake/4415510656/in/set-72157623582140316/. An established contributor is welcome to add it to the article in some way. If you read the description on the flickr collection you will read how the photos were taken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyeeffdee ( talk • contribs) 22:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC) Eyeeffdee ( talk) 13:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the kind person that included my photo in the articles Eyeeffdee ( talk) 23:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
My addition:
was just reverted as "not credible and improperly cited". We can argue about citation style all night; but it's certainly credible - look in the OED. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 00:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok then, our obscure word loving friend, please explain how this controvesy centres around Auschwitz? When in fact most controversy was caused by what he said about Poland in the sense of them harbouring anti-semitism, nationalism etc. ValenShephard ( talk) 18:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Fry has repeatedly expressed his rejection of religion, though he says he prefers to call himself a humanist rather than an atheist. He appears (sourced) on Wikipedia's own List of atheists (film, radio, television and theater). There are many videos of him expressing these views, though there is a question of defining sourcing. [17] There are newspaper reports referring to him as an atheist, especially following his debate about the RC church Catholic Herald. There does not seem to be any real doubt about this. The citations used on the List page are: "I knew I couldn't believe in God, because I was fundamentally Hellenic in my outlook." Fry, Stephen (2004 (1997)). Moab is my washpot. Arrow books. pp. 382. ISBN 9780099457046. ^ "Sometimes belief means credulity, sometimes an expression of faith and hope which even the most sceptical atheist such as myself cannot but find inspiring." Stephen Fry, Spectator Lecture at the Royal Geographical Society, reprinted as 'Would I live in America? In a heartbeat', The Spectator, 9 May 2009, Pg. 28. Paul B ( talk) 15:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Stephen revealed in the Home and Houses episode of QI that he's given up smoking. While I am willing add this fact, it seems incomplete without know precisely when he stopped. Will it be fine to add this fact anyway? 81.23.57.177 ( talk) 14:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that the health section needs scrubbing for both irrelevancy and structure 121.45.202.29 ( talk) 12:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
His religion is marked as "None (Atheist)" but it can't be both "none" and "atheist". Perhaps it should be changed to non-theist? Are there any references? KylePIB ( talk) 00:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
That's what I came here to learn... Huw Powell ( talk) 07:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Fry is very much "out" about his close friendship with Steven Webb. There has been no denial that they are an item, widely reported in the press. As the pair have been photographed together at several social events, their "friendship" should at least be acknowledged and not doctored out of the respective entries as some keep doing. If they were not "out" they would not be out together as a couple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.243.76 ( talk) 22:05, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't mind replacing the old relationship, it was long and well reported, I just though as they were not married and is over it had little value in the infobox, but no worries. As for the daily mail claimed new lover ...there is little strength of report that he is in a new relationship, he has been seen with, I think its pretty soon to say its a relationship. Off2riorob ( talk) 22:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
It is now well beyond speculation that Fry and Steven Webb are partners. They appeared together as such at the Baftas and have done so for many months now. So stop editing out this fact, it's beyond dispute and has not been denied by either party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.83.194 ( talk) 15:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Heres the addition you are desirous of -
Fry's partner is now the actor Steven Webb with whom he has appeared at a number of recent public events.
only content about webb ... " is now reported to be seeing the 25-year-old actor Steven Webb."
and - Fry "and has, I gather, been spending a lot of time with aspiring young actor Steven Webb, 26"
Even if that is true, it still needs to be sourced. Creation7689 ( talk) 14:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
If there is more than one editor who agrees that a better source is needed, to me at least that a different source should be used. No one is against adding that information. Creation7689 ( talk) 16:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
But Fry has already had problems with the pitfalls of Twitter so probably he would not discuss it there, so Twitter is no more a reliable "source" than a newspaper article. The public outings are the "statement" and now that they have appeared socially together at major arts events, this says more than a social media posting which is not a "source". He probably does not Tweet on this to avoid spoiling the relationship with obsessive Tweeting after the previous break-up. And again, I have only suggested they are acknowledged as social "partners", nothing more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.83.194 ( talk) 21:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
This: [19] states they are indeed "partners". Has Fry Tweeted to contradict this source? Not just QI but also QED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.83.194 ( talk) 22:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Parentheses following a reference to The Liar describe it as a 1993 novel, which I know to be untrue. The article on the novel categorizes it as a 1991 novel which seems plausible. I lack the resources to do extensive research or even to edit the article at the moment (it's a telephone about half the size of a chocolate bar) but this error definitely needs to be fixed. -- Tasty monster (= TS ) 17:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
He is Cyclothymic, a more specific form of bipolar ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZb5YbtvYhw&feature=player_embedded). The article is half-locked so I cannot edit. Sverri ( talk) 20:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
So, over at Wim Kok they are placing honorary degrees under Alma Mater, this would clean things up a lot. But I don't know if Dr.h.c. is also the prefix for British universities. -- IIVeaa ( talk) 23:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Stephen Fry/Archive 1 | |
---|---|
Alma mater |
Queens' College, Cambridge University of Dundee ( Dr.h.c.) Anglia Ruskin University ( Dr.h.c.) University of Sussex ( Dr.h.c.) |
It might be nice to have a seperate paragraph for the charities he supports. An outline for a paragraph could be:
![]() |
An image used in this article,
File:Stephen Fry cropped.jpg, has been nominated for deletion at
Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests August 2011
Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.
This notification is provided by a Bot -- CommonsNotificationBot ( talk) 00:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC) |
Ariadne on Naxos
Features in 2010 recording performing as Major-Duomo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.78.158 ( talk) 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
He also recently did "Stephen Fry and the Great American Oil Spill" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.33.89.83 ( talk) 21:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Narrates Ocean Giants documentary series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.33.89.83 ( talk) 17:28, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Recently did "Stephen Fry's 100 Greatest Gadgets" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.33.89.83 ( talk) 19:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
please add in Other series that Stephen Fry is now involved in another nature documentary. He narrates a series of three episodes called Ocean Giants on BBC one about whales and dolphins.
PeachyFanOfFry ( talk) 16:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
This sentences is not correct;-
in fact, he met met Hugh Laurie through Emma Thompson and then was invited to join Footlights in his third year. This is is in his book "The Fry Chronicles" 81.136.149.137 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:38, 28 August 2011 (UTC).
Why is information about his recent television series, "Planet Word", not staying in the article? Is it because this page has been semi-protected? ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 23:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, if you look at this website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b015qqkl/Frys_Planet_Word_Identity/
that will give a source for the programme. People could also read about the programme in copies of the Radio Times or other television guides that they might have. If we really do need to have a source for this, I hope that the above website, coupled with references to the "Radio Times" (appropriate issues), will be sufficient. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 09:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, I think that the information should certainly be in about this series now. In the last edition of this series,
Jimmy Wales was on and mention was made of
Wikipedia!
ACEOREVIVED (
talk) 14:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Do you think this section might be better in the QI article? It probably belongs here too, but it seems odd to me that the information is in this article but not the other, considering there were other people involved. There were the QI researchers who originally wrote the "unluckiest man in the world" question and the guests who made jokes about it (though it doesn't say who they were).
It also seems odd that the section calls them the "other guests", Fry isn't a guest, he's the presenter. 114.75.60.48 ( talk) 13:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
It seems we at least are in agreement. Any other users around to comment on this? I have removed the text for now, but I dislike acting on the consensus of two. Яehevkor ✉ 23:44, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Right, I've said this before with regard to other articles and it's not come to much, but I'm going to have a crack at getting the Stephen Fry article up to at least Good Article standard. He's a pretty major figure (in the UK at least) and his popularity, occasionally controversial nature, and activity in so many fields appears to have attracted a somewhat scattergun input to the article, with drive-by editors dropping in individual bits of trivia, resulting in a lot of cruft and not much structure.
Therefore I'm doing a polish/rewrite in my userspace ( here) and will drop a first draft of that into the main article in a day or two. Feel free to comment on/criticise/make suggestions with regard to what I'm doing in my userspace version. Arthur Holland ( talk) 10:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I think it's a bit unruly and out of control at the minute. Is there any way some of this info could be migrated to other sections? Could do with a trim I think. Kaleeyed ( talk) 22:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
![]() |
An image used in this article,
File:Stephen Fry signature.svg, has been nominated for deletion at
Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests January 2012
Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.
This notification is provided by a Bot -- CommonsNotificationBot ( talk) 19:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC) |
Am I the only one not nauseated by this over-long eulogy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.63.119 ( talk) 17:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
This part of thread collapsed per WP:SOAPBOX, WP:TPG, etc. |
---|
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
|
One of the most noticeable features of Fry is his nose; is there any info on what happened t make it appear so 'distinguished'? Kitbag ( talk) 23:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
"While in the playground of Chesam Prep school, Stephen tripped, fell on his face and broke his nose. He intended on one day getting it fixed, but feared that it wouldn't make much of a difference in his appearance." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.145.74 ( talk) 00:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The OED needs to discover GoogleBooks Advanced Search. Uses in 1857 [21], 1867 [22], 1886 [23], 1908 [24], 1957 [25], 1959 [26], for starters. Need I go on? Now can we please delete this ridiculous misattribution? Softlavender ( talk) 04:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
In the Television section, Fry's work in Pocoyo is listed under the subsection Drama, which doesn't fit the series' spirit. Should it be listed in subsection Comedy or in a new subsection?-- Javierme ( talk) 21:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to make the addition that Stephen has an incredibly brief cameo at the beginning of Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes at the start of the film as the photographer - its all of 3/4 of second, but made me gasp when I did see it. Is this worth making as an addition ? Screencaps are available on Google Image search...your thoughts please. Deepshark ( talk) 07:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Not something necessarily worth mentioning in the article, but it would be great if we would be able to update the portrait picture -- Vera ( talk) 14:02, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
'He is on cordial terms with Prince Charles (despite a mild parody Fry performed in his role of King Charles I in the comedy programme Blackadder: The Cavalier Years), through his work with the Prince's Trust.'
Where is the 'mild parody' in this sketch. I will watch it but on first reading I can't seem to recall a similarity. Please forgive me if I am overlooking an obvious point.
Thanks.
DAFMM ( talk) 15:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
According to here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22782913 ,he made another suicide atempt in 2012. Probably worth putting in. Hammerfrog ( talk) 17:49, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
"Stephen Fry visits Nightingale House, London, December 2009". Link Nightingale House — home in San Francisco. Nightingale House = Florence Nightingale School of Nursing and Midwifery, isn't it? — Андрей Бондарь ( talk) 12:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
He had played Gordon Wyatt/Gordon Gordon/Noddy Comet in the television series bones. Booth's first psychologist in the series after Booth had shot a clown stereo box on the top of an ice cream truck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.74.179.66 ( talk) 19:11, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Also, Wagner & Me was 2010, not 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.29.234 ( talk) 17:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
I had always been under the impression that Stephen Fry was graduated with a First. The two citations in the article mention that his degree is in English Literature but not the honours classification. Ziyingjiang ( talk) 04:31, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Is Fry now an atheist or an agnostic? Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
References
I've recently brought up the subject of this article elsewhere and a half dozen or so of us agree that this article is far below par for such an esteemed fellow. It reads like a magazine/blog and it's about time it was rewritten from scratch in a chronologically structured proper encyclopedia article rather than scraps of trivia by topic. Especially given the traffic this gets and news reports mentioning Fry's wikipedia article and that the great man himself pops in here occasionally. He deserves a high quality article in which wikipedia can be proud of when people visit the page. We're all currently busy right now, but I just want anybody who watches this page to know that some of us intend working on a new article in a sandbox within the next few weeks. If there is anything you object to or would like to discuss please do so now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The article has been edited to include a very offensive homophobic statement at the beginning of the article. Please remove this ASAP 109.154.197.197 ( talk) 18:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
IMHO the mention of an age difference between any couple is WP:INDISCRIMINATE at best> It is also a WP:POV situation. Thus, it does not belong in this article. MarnetteD| Talk 15:37, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
He has also narrated the game The Stanley Parable, as the man who leads the main character Stanley through his office building, to try and discover where his colleagues have gone. 2A00:E60:7000:100:7:0:0:1 ( talk) 12:56, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to 8 external links on
Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 18:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
The voice recording here sounds absolutely nothing like Stephen Fry! It can't be him, or if it was him it has been altered from his natural voice entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.7.54.94 ( talk) 12:23, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Stephen Fry, referenced Guardian (UK) article, "New Labour's love of money is the root of all our troubles."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/oct/23/comment.politics2
The reference given is verifiable but is not a reliable source as Wikipedia references are required to be; it should therefore be stricken. Fry apparently has a diagnosis from the psychiatrist he currently sees. Fry cannot be Oliver James’s patient or else James would certainly have been struck off by the UK's General Medical Council for talking about Fry’s health publicly, which he has not been. James’s opinion on Fry’s condition is therefore medically irrelevant.
Wikipedia need not include or refer to every single verifiable mention of a topic. If it were to do so, we could not truly call it an "edited" site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feeling uncreative ( talk • contribs) 12:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Martinevans123, I saw you reverted [29] my edit, and the reason you gave was "yes, they are totally connected, the documentary makes this very clear - The Evening Standard is mentioned by name". I assume you're correct, as I cannot check it myself, that the documentary says Fry read reviews in The Evening Standard that night. However, I believe there's no reason to say he read bad reviews before his symptoms began; what is relevant to the article is that the show had to be cancelled, and the reason why it happened i.e. he suffered a serious psychiatric episode and required care. I don't think it's appropriate to say why he felt suicidal, or imply things about his mind and emotions; he did not kill himself, we're not a tabloid press or someone's memoirs, and that information isn't needed to understand some other part of the article.
I also believe it violates
WP:NPOV and
WP:BLP to claim or imply a person's severe psychiatric symptoms were caused by something other than psychiatric illness, even if a documentary makes that claim. I'm not sure the wording used in the documentary, but even if Fry literally says that, documentaries are edited and things are often taken out of context, and since we're dealing with a biography of a living person as well as addressing mental illness, I think it's best to be cautious. The claim goes against mainstream psychiatry, it's contentious, I believe it implies negative and potentially demanding damaging things about the article's subject, and it has no other relevance to the rest of the article, so I do not believe it should be included. For these reasons, I've reverted it. If you disagree, I would appreciate if you would discuss it here before reverting again. Thanks.
LibertyOrDeath (
talk) 01:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey Guys, just thought I would alert you to the fact that Stephen Fry has deleted his Twitter. This will have to be updated. Sorry I can't make the edit, I am currently working on another edit when I heard this. JoshMuirWikipedia ( talk) 07:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Fry is President of the Mental Health Chartity. In April 2016 he made comments saying victims of abuse should grow up and stop being self-pitying. Link( Coachtripfan ( talk) 11:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC))
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I request that we show a padlock on the page because i cant see one. 81.106.30.36 ( talk) 15:24, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Stephen Fry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Removal of all categories with the word "JEW" in!!! 81.106.30.36 ( talk) 20:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Not done Reasons not given for category removal. --‖
Ebyabe
talk -
Opposites Attract ‖ 20:57, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Because he isnt "JEWISH"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.49.239 ( talk) 08:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, he is, according to the Jewish Halacha. Everybody who was born to a Jewish mother is considered Jewish, no matter how he may define himself.
-- 88.73.242.208 ( talk) 14:16, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Fry [@stephenfry] (2014-06-24).
"@JulianStorey @JewishNewsUK Being Jewish is not a matter of religion: I'm a Jew, but don't follow judaism" (
Tweet). Archived from
the original on 2016-09-10. Retrieved 2016-09-10 – via
Twitter. {{
cite web}}
: |archive-date=
/ |archive-url=
timestamp mismatch; 2016-09-11 suggested (
help)
Use it how you want, full archive and everything if it ever goes away. Jerod Lycett ( talk) 03:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
What is this, a biography or a hagiography? The issue though is not in the information or the content, it is the tone in which is written which gives the impression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.78.16.172 ( talk) 20:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Fry [@stephenfry] (2015-01-17). "Gosh. @ElliottGSpencer and I go into a room as two people, sign a book and leave as one. Amazing" ( Tweet). Archived from the original on 2016-11-22. Retrieved 2016-11-22 – via Twitter.
Dropping this for future use too. Jerod Lycett ( talk) 19:08, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I do not think that the citations given are poor, and in one case the reference is directly to the quotation given in the cited part. I also don't think any of it's controversial. Further, the part about his marriage is factual, and should not be removed. edit referenced Jerod Lycett ( talk) 19:02, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that his husband is 30 years younger than he is Aacfsftw ( talk) 10:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Ok Aacfsftw ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 04:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Since there is a section ' Acclaim', shouldn't there also be a section 'Criticism'? If the author(s) of this article know nothing negative about Fry, they haven't been reading very widely. 31.48.245.26 ( talk) 11:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173855When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 05:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Stephen Fry. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.ueastudent.com/image_uploads/lgbt--student-experience-repor.pdf{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.ueastudent.com/image_uploads/council-minutes-18-oct-final-.pdfWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 03:22, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Not sure of the status of audio books in a biblio - obviously the English DElight stuff is his own creative work, and therfoire belongs in a biblio, but he was merely presenting the Chekov stories CD. Happy to be corrected on this, but shouldn't audio books have their own section in a biblio? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doubledays ( talk • contribs) 10:37, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
I am currently listening to a Random House Audio edition of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy that is narrated by Stephen Fry. The book details say it was released 9-4-06. I don't know how to properly notate and cite this, so I will let someone else add it to the actual Wiki page. It does appear that this is the only book of the series he narrated, or at least the only that I can find on the library I have access to. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
69.87.112.1 (
talk) 17:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
I've just done a read through of the article and have noticed that it relies far too much on Fry's own description of his life from his autobiographies (and far too much trivia is quoted from them). It's important that we observe WP:PRIMARY. Oska ( talk) 10:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Re
this deletion for a second time, by
User:Oska, I don't see a problem with its inclusion. The first edit summary was "Removed trivia about crosswords"
, to which my reply was "(if Fry himself "... later stated that these crosswords were the only thing that got him through the ordeal", how can that be trivia?"
The second edit summary was "Please see WP:PRIMARY. We should not be relying so much on Fry's autobiographies in this article and this particular anecdote could be perceived as an attempt to win sympathy by Fry for his time in prison."
So which is it? I really don't see that this is "as an attempt to win sympathy by Fry." Please also see
WP:BRD Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 10:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
As Stephen has said, he likes Wikipedia "because I like to find out that I died, and that I'm currently in a ballet in China, and all the other very accurate and important things that Wikipedia brings us all." Surely this behooves a subsection within the "Personal Life" section (before "Sexuality") entitled "Prior to Stephen's Demise" containing "Stephen is, of course, dead and recovering from Prostate Cancer" or similar.
ATurtle05 ( talk) 18:51, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
The article currently claims that the FX4 taxi used by SF to get around London at the time was shipped to the US for his 2008 American road trip series. The supporting ref is rather weak, and it seems unlikely. Besides, I'm sure the FX4 featured in the show was left hand drive. FX4s are made in LHD for some markets, though they aren't common in the US. Can anybody clarify? -- Ef80 ( talk) 15:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
It seems most Wiki articles usually provide an area for “views” separate from personal life. This article has Fry’s views on a range of issues tucked into personal life when they very likely do not belong there? Sxologist ( talk) 15:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
"Chesham Preparatry School" should read "Chesham Preparatory School". "Pucklechurch Prison" was "Pucklechurch Remand Centre", which opened in 1968 and closed after a riot in 1990. On the same site HM Prison Ashfield opened in 1999. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halteres ( talk • contribs) 17:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Stephen Fry wrote a book that is missing from this article: Title: Paperweight, Publisher: William Heinemann Ltd (September 14, 1992), ISBN-10: 0434274089, ISBN-13: 978-0434274086 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GilleadFinknottle ( talk • contribs) 09:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Has he never been offered an OBE or similar? 213.31.95.78 ( talk) 07:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Wow, the man received a Covid jab. How utterly utterly world-shatteringly important. Anything about his prison sentence? Anything about his rabid objection 'as-a-Jew' to Israel daring to defend itself against rockets murdering her civilians? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.18.129 ( talk) 18:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
I have removed an episode I will not describe here since that would defeat the purpose. The edit is not a major one but is obvious at the article edit history and might count as a bold edit all the same. I can find only snippets of discussion about the issue of 'spent' offences in Europe and so use the justification here with full respect to anyone who might disagree. In Europe and other parts of the world, people who have committed offences are given the chance to start anew once time has passed and a number of criteria have been satisfied (this does not apply to the most serious offences). There are strict laws in place which prevent the reporting of the offences in question in most cases. The media may refer to it if the offence is relevant to a story (e.g. a person is re-convicted of an offence). These rules clearly apply to the edit I have made here. However, it is true that in the main US rules apply to Wikipedia. Yet it does seem that the best course is for commonsense to apply - i.e. where a person clearly resides in Europe and is European then Europea rules on spent offences should be followed. Finally, if a European (where 'spent' offences is the law) inserts information into a Wikipedia article which is covered by spent offence legislation, they are usually committing an offence in their own counrty. This opens Wiki edits up to some degree of risk about which they are likely unaware. My own view is that the unecessary information is best removed and so I have deleted. All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmentalist ( talk • contribs) 08:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
In Fry's third autobiography, "More Fool Me: A Memoir", he talks at length about his cocaine addiction which lasted for many years (from 1986 to 2001); it is surprising this isn't mentioned at all in this article. Mattmm ( talk) 09:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
He was the narrator for the og little big planet 2A00:23C5:68A4:3101:9FD:AA35:10B7:A3FF ( talk) 22:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)