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I was wondering if describing the film as a bomb is WP:NPOV violation. The film grossed $165 million in 1997, not exactly Heaven's Gate is it? That would be something like $300 million these days, which would be a huge success for about 99.9% of all films made. $165 million offset against a $110 million budget—even after subtracting the exhibitor's fee–would still see it make its budget back. Since it isn't an obvious money-loser, I'm think we should drop the "box office bomb" bit unless we can source it. Betty Logan ( talk) 23:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
@ Betty Logan trying to figure out what changed that now you believe it must be labeled a box office bomb. One source calling it a flop does not seem to meet the standards for such an exceptional claim under "MOS acclaimed" which states, "box-office bomb" is loaded language and an exceptional claim that must be attributed to multiple high-quality sources. A more neutral description listing just the figures for earning and budget would seem to be in line with neutrality and with the guidelines for exceptional claims. would be interested in what others think about this as well Holydiver82 ( talk) 16:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Moviefone and Time have both ranked the film among the biggest box office bombs of all time..." So the article is not calling the film a bomb per se; it's merely saying that Moviefone and Time have labeled it as such. That's an important distinction. Personally, I don't think we should give so much weight to Moviefone's listicle source, so in order for this statement to remain, it should be replaced with something stronger. And if this article is going to avoid calling the film a bomb in Wikipedia's voice, then the lead should avoid doing so as well. Currently, the lead says, "The film was also a box-office bomb...", so clearly the two statements are saying different things. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 19:40, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Cannot verify this. Suspect bit of trivia; not a trustworthy source, not mentioned elsewhere.
During filming in Marigot, an obsessed fan of Bullock employed as an extra in the film attempted to kidnap her. Bullock was later assigned bodyguards for the duration of filming. [1]
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John McTiernan of the Die Hard series accused the studio of assembling this film from the leftover parts of Die Hard:
I actually prepared two sequels. One didn't happen because Fox was wrangling with Bruce over money. After we made Die Hard 3, the studio used most of the material we'd developed for the other sequel and turned it into Speed 2: Cruise Control. The ocean liner going on the beach and stuff? That's what we'd written for Die Hard. [1]
Might be worth including in the article. -- 109.79.69.228 ( talk) 11:18, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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I was wondering if describing the film as a bomb is WP:NPOV violation. The film grossed $165 million in 1997, not exactly Heaven's Gate is it? That would be something like $300 million these days, which would be a huge success for about 99.9% of all films made. $165 million offset against a $110 million budget—even after subtracting the exhibitor's fee–would still see it make its budget back. Since it isn't an obvious money-loser, I'm think we should drop the "box office bomb" bit unless we can source it. Betty Logan ( talk) 23:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
@ Betty Logan trying to figure out what changed that now you believe it must be labeled a box office bomb. One source calling it a flop does not seem to meet the standards for such an exceptional claim under "MOS acclaimed" which states, "box-office bomb" is loaded language and an exceptional claim that must be attributed to multiple high-quality sources. A more neutral description listing just the figures for earning and budget would seem to be in line with neutrality and with the guidelines for exceptional claims. would be interested in what others think about this as well Holydiver82 ( talk) 16:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Moviefone and Time have both ranked the film among the biggest box office bombs of all time..." So the article is not calling the film a bomb per se; it's merely saying that Moviefone and Time have labeled it as such. That's an important distinction. Personally, I don't think we should give so much weight to Moviefone's listicle source, so in order for this statement to remain, it should be replaced with something stronger. And if this article is going to avoid calling the film a bomb in Wikipedia's voice, then the lead should avoid doing so as well. Currently, the lead says, "The film was also a box-office bomb...", so clearly the two statements are saying different things. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 19:40, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Cannot verify this. Suspect bit of trivia; not a trustworthy source, not mentioned elsewhere.
During filming in Marigot, an obsessed fan of Bullock employed as an extra in the film attempted to kidnap her. Bullock was later assigned bodyguards for the duration of filming. [1]
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John McTiernan of the Die Hard series accused the studio of assembling this film from the leftover parts of Die Hard:
I actually prepared two sequels. One didn't happen because Fox was wrangling with Bruce over money. After we made Die Hard 3, the studio used most of the material we'd developed for the other sequel and turned it into Speed 2: Cruise Control. The ocean liner going on the beach and stuff? That's what we'd written for Die Hard. [1]
Might be worth including in the article. -- 109.79.69.228 ( talk) 11:18, 9 August 2020 (UTC)