| This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Special interest (autism) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
| Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
 | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||
| |||||||||||
 | On 18 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Autistic special interests. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Love this article — would potentially mention how it relates to, or is different from, Fixation (psychology). To show why they warrant separate pages, as I think lots of people assume they are the same. Squiddyonwiki ( talk) 22:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! From my understanding, Freudian fixations are a theory of why some people like certain types of sex, so I'm not sure how people could get the two confused? Did you mean
hyperfixation?
-- NotCharizard
🗨
11:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I did mean this! Though I don't believe fixation is alway related to sex -- people can get fixated on people, things, objects, etc. However I do think a lot of people mix up hyperfixation with special interest.
- Article looks great! Squiddyonwiki ( talk) 20:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
To Notcharizard. Hello, I have noticed this article or draft I should say, I typed an article through the sandbox titled "Special interest (autism)" in April. When I moved the article to the mainspace, a Wikipedien converted my article into a draft on the web page. The user stated I needed to work on the vocabulary and better reliable sources. Your article hit most of the main points I was addressing in mine. I was impressed with your writing skills.
Great minds think alike. If this is a draft (what you did on the bottom of the revision history), then why was it put into an article format? Tonkarooson ( talk) *new editor* 03:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean "why was it put into an article format?". It was a draft when I first wrote it, because it was just bullet points from the sources I found, and then when I put it into paragraphs it was moved to article space.
- I had a look at your draft, that is funny that we both did it at the same time - I have tried to make the same edit to an article at the same time as someone else many times but not a whole article. It looks like your article was draftified because you
wrote it backwards. Your article had some examples of special interests in real people though which I didn't have other than Greta, that would be cool to add some if we can find some sources!
-- NotCharizard
🗨
11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- When I type out "Draft: Special interest (autism)", yours is the top article, directing from "Draft:Special interest (autism)", so from this it made me a bit confused; below yours is my draft on this topic!
- I read the article about making backward articles, and I am going to make the option to stop working on my article because yours seems better and mine came from my general knowledge of special interests. This also means I will make Special interest (autism) better! Tonkarooson ( talk) *new editor* 02:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Consider WP:DYK. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 07:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
consider renaming to Autistic_special_interests so its consistent with autistic_masking and autistic_burnout Anthony2106 ( talk) 09:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. The proposed is not inline with the naming system per consensus which is that there is no need for the move. Later ln clarification was that the ambiguous term "autism", isn't part of the article. ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 00:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Special interest (autism) → Autistic special interests – it should be moved to keep it concistent with autistic masking, autistic burnout and autistic meltdown plus autistic special intrests is a real term that is used i looked it up, it sounds better too Anthony2106 ( talk) 06:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Toadette Edit! 14:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I like this name change request, but I don't understand why this article needs to be moved. To me, this name change too good for the discussion to be closed
- Also, where did all of these requests around
Autism come from all of the sudden lol?
Tonkarooson (
talk) *new editor*
10:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Also, where did all of these requests around Autism come from"...i saw the name change request on the autism page and realized i could do one here.
- "but I don't understand why this article needs to be moved"... it should be moved to make it renamed to make it consistent with the other pages about autism, and i think the discussion about this change is still open Anthony2106 ( talk) 14:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the desire for consistancy, but the examples given (autistic masking, autistic burnout and autistic meltdown) are all autistic "versions" of things that exist outside autism, so that is specified in the name of the subject (i.e. autistic masking is type of regular social masking). Special interests are an autistic thing, they are not usually called "autistic special interests" because that's inherent.
- In the case of this article, "(autism)" is functioning as disambiguation, not as part of the typical name of the subject - it is only there because "special interests" is already used for special interest groups. -- NotCharizard 🗨 14:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
"A person with a special interest will often hyperfocus on their special interest for hours" unreliable source
I may have found a better source:
I have others, but they didn't seem good enough. If anyone wants to see the other sources, I will gladly share them. Tonkarooson ( talk) *new editor* 11:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Tonkarooson added Category:History of autism [1] [2] [3], but I and Panamitsu disagree [4] [5]. I don't think that mention of a historical event ("Special interests in autistic people were first written about in 1943") is sufficient to define a topic as historical - per WP:CATDEF, "historical" is not a "defining characteristic" of "Special interest (autism)".
Other editors are invited to comment. Mitch Ames ( talk) 00:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think I can be funny in really silly ways. I just was thinking it was good enough since it was mentioned as a part of Autism becoming a diagnosis. This discussion needs no more, I appreciate the correcting. —
Tonkarooson (
talk)
01:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you agree with me and Panamitsu, please remove the category again. You most recently re-added it
here; I haven't removed it again because I'm not 100% sure of your agreement, and I don't want to
edit-war. If you still think it belongs, please say so explicitly. Thanks,
Mitch Ames (
talk)
02:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I looked at Classic_autism#Repetitive_behavior, restricted interests is there. There isn't a reference for that so I'm confused if special interests are a part of the history or not. — Tonkarooson ( talk) 00:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you agree with me and Panamitsu, please remove the category again. You most recently re-added it
here; I haven't removed it again because I'm not 100% sure of your agreement, and I don't want to
edit-war. If you still think it belongs, please say so explicitly. Thanks,
Mitch Ames (
talk)
02:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
is this a good photo?:
the file is called "Autism Aspect Special Interests 1.png" its allmost like she made it for this page without knowing it.
I don't know where to put it, as their is no infobox. Anthony2106 ( talk) 04:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- This looks pretty good, it seems like it would be fine. But then again, I don't know much about the guidelines about images. Thoughts, anyone?
Tonkarooson (
discuss).
05:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Tonkarooson dont bother waiting for @ user:Notcharizard as i think somthing happened to them. i think they died or lost their computer with there password, as they havent edited wikipedia in almost a month, RIP.
- As for the image, commons:user:MissLunaRose12's images are on like everything ( Alexithymia, Neurodiversity, Masking (personality), Borderline personality disorder#Signs and symptoms) and they look consistently good so it seems like a good idea. As for its position I think I should just copy stimming and put it after the first paragraph, as i like that page.
- Wait now it seems like I already knew the answer and should of done it myself, ill just wait a bit to see what others think and if no one responds after a week ill add it myself.
Anthony2106 (
talk)
06:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do not know if you are joking, but it is very rude to say "don't bother waiting for NotCharizard to respond" and imply I have died. Please do not do that again. My activity on Wikipedia goes up and down as with any hobby.
- I have added the image to the article. It is an excellent image, you are very right that it does seem almost designed for the article!
-- NotCharizard
🗨
07:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Notcharizard i dont think i was joking, as you left with no warning, im pretty sure that means you forgot your password or something happened to you, but you only stoped ending for like 20 days it was wrong of me to make this assumption, im sorry. maybe I was just upset you were gone as your a good editor.
- next time i say when i think something has happened to someone it will be like 2 years, that seems long enough, but maybe I shouldn't at all.
- shouldn't it say
Autistic art depicting a special interest in cats? or
Autistic art depicting a girls special intrest in cats? as
commons:user:MissLunaRose12 is autistic and she seid everything she illustrates is autistic art unless otherwise specified, but then autistic art couldnt be link in the see also section cus of
wp:notseealso
Anthony2106 (
talk)
14:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
user:notcharizard please don't hate me
Anthony2106 (
talk)
00:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do not hate you! The comment just made me feel a bit hurt, but do not worry - I tend to (topically) hyperfocus on Wikipedia for a bit and then dissapear ( my activity log is pretty spiky).
- "Artistic art" would be a great caption! Feel free to add it yourself, generally it is good to
be bold with small edits and if someone disagrees they can just change it themself :)
-- NotCharizard
🗨
10:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- yeah i might just change it myself like how i added a photo to stimming, it looks good dosent it? (pats own back). also i want you to check the bottom of talk:autism#Having more then one image as i think the infinity 8 sybole would be a good photo for the autism page, should i just add it? - no, too bold. also i changed the photo on one of your user boxes to use vector graphics as per Commons:Commons:Media for cleanup, your welcome. Anthony2106 ( talk) 10:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
... left with no warning, ... you only stoped ending for like 20 days ... next time i say when i think something has happened to someone it will be like 2 years, that seems long enough, but maybe I shouldn't at all
— I make no comment about the appropriateness of saying anything at all, or the time before doing so, but refer you to {{ Not around}}, the documentation for which includes:It is generally not advisable to add this template to the talk page of any Wikipedia user who has stopped editing for a short amount of time. Wait at least three months before listing someone who has simply ceased editing.
- Mitch Ames ( talk) 03:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
user:notcharizard please don't hate me
Anthony2106 (
talk)
00:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
| This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Special interest (autism) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
| Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
|
| This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||
| |||||||||||
| On 18 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Autistic special interests. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Love this article — would potentially mention how it relates to, or is different from, Fixation (psychology). To show why they warrant separate pages, as I think lots of people assume they are the same. Squiddyonwiki ( talk) 22:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! From my understanding, Freudian fixations are a theory of why some people like certain types of sex, so I'm not sure how people could get the two confused? Did you mean
hyperfixation?
-- NotCharizard
🗨
11:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I did mean this! Though I don't believe fixation is alway related to sex -- people can get fixated on people, things, objects, etc. However I do think a lot of people mix up hyperfixation with special interest.
- Article looks great! Squiddyonwiki ( talk) 20:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
To Notcharizard. Hello, I have noticed this article or draft I should say, I typed an article through the sandbox titled "Special interest (autism)" in April. When I moved the article to the mainspace, a Wikipedien converted my article into a draft on the web page. The user stated I needed to work on the vocabulary and better reliable sources. Your article hit most of the main points I was addressing in mine. I was impressed with your writing skills.
Great minds think alike. If this is a draft (what you did on the bottom of the revision history), then why was it put into an article format? Tonkarooson ( talk) *new editor* 03:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean "why was it put into an article format?". It was a draft when I first wrote it, because it was just bullet points from the sources I found, and then when I put it into paragraphs it was moved to article space.
- I had a look at your draft, that is funny that we both did it at the same time - I have tried to make the same edit to an article at the same time as someone else many times but not a whole article. It looks like your article was draftified because you
wrote it backwards. Your article had some examples of special interests in real people though which I didn't have other than Greta, that would be cool to add some if we can find some sources!
-- NotCharizard
🗨
11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- When I type out "Draft: Special interest (autism)", yours is the top article, directing from "Draft:Special interest (autism)", so from this it made me a bit confused; below yours is my draft on this topic!
- I read the article about making backward articles, and I am going to make the option to stop working on my article because yours seems better and mine came from my general knowledge of special interests. This also means I will make Special interest (autism) better! Tonkarooson ( talk) *new editor* 02:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Consider WP:DYK. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 07:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
consider renaming to Autistic_special_interests so its consistent with autistic_masking and autistic_burnout Anthony2106 ( talk) 09:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. The proposed is not inline with the naming system per consensus which is that there is no need for the move. Later ln clarification was that the ambiguous term "autism", isn't part of the article. ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 00:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Special interest (autism) → Autistic special interests – it should be moved to keep it concistent with autistic masking, autistic burnout and autistic meltdown plus autistic special intrests is a real term that is used i looked it up, it sounds better too Anthony2106 ( talk) 06:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Toadette Edit! 14:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I like this name change request, but I don't understand why this article needs to be moved. To me, this name change too good for the discussion to be closed
- Also, where did all of these requests around
Autism come from all of the sudden lol?
Tonkarooson (
talk) *new editor*
10:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Also, where did all of these requests around Autism come from"...i saw the name change request on the autism page and realized i could do one here.
- "but I don't understand why this article needs to be moved"... it should be moved to make it renamed to make it consistent with the other pages about autism, and i think the discussion about this change is still open Anthony2106 ( talk) 14:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the desire for consistancy, but the examples given (autistic masking, autistic burnout and autistic meltdown) are all autistic "versions" of things that exist outside autism, so that is specified in the name of the subject (i.e. autistic masking is type of regular social masking). Special interests are an autistic thing, they are not usually called "autistic special interests" because that's inherent.
- In the case of this article, "(autism)" is functioning as disambiguation, not as part of the typical name of the subject - it is only there because "special interests" is already used for special interest groups. -- NotCharizard 🗨 14:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
"A person with a special interest will often hyperfocus on their special interest for hours" unreliable source
I may have found a better source:
I have others, but they didn't seem good enough. If anyone wants to see the other sources, I will gladly share them. Tonkarooson ( talk) *new editor* 11:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Tonkarooson added Category:History of autism [1] [2] [3], but I and Panamitsu disagree [4] [5]. I don't think that mention of a historical event ("Special interests in autistic people were first written about in 1943") is sufficient to define a topic as historical - per WP:CATDEF, "historical" is not a "defining characteristic" of "Special interest (autism)".
Other editors are invited to comment. Mitch Ames ( talk) 00:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think I can be funny in really silly ways. I just was thinking it was good enough since it was mentioned as a part of Autism becoming a diagnosis. This discussion needs no more, I appreciate the correcting. —
Tonkarooson (
talk)
01:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you agree with me and Panamitsu, please remove the category again. You most recently re-added it
here; I haven't removed it again because I'm not 100% sure of your agreement, and I don't want to
edit-war. If you still think it belongs, please say so explicitly. Thanks,
Mitch Ames (
talk)
02:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I looked at Classic_autism#Repetitive_behavior, restricted interests is there. There isn't a reference for that so I'm confused if special interests are a part of the history or not. — Tonkarooson ( talk) 00:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you agree with me and Panamitsu, please remove the category again. You most recently re-added it
here; I haven't removed it again because I'm not 100% sure of your agreement, and I don't want to
edit-war. If you still think it belongs, please say so explicitly. Thanks,
Mitch Ames (
talk)
02:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
is this a good photo?:
the file is called "Autism Aspect Special Interests 1.png" its allmost like she made it for this page without knowing it.
I don't know where to put it, as their is no infobox. Anthony2106 ( talk) 04:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- This looks pretty good, it seems like it would be fine. But then again, I don't know much about the guidelines about images. Thoughts, anyone?
Tonkarooson (
discuss).
05:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Tonkarooson dont bother waiting for @ user:Notcharizard as i think somthing happened to them. i think they died or lost their computer with there password, as they havent edited wikipedia in almost a month, RIP.
- As for the image, commons:user:MissLunaRose12's images are on like everything ( Alexithymia, Neurodiversity, Masking (personality), Borderline personality disorder#Signs and symptoms) and they look consistently good so it seems like a good idea. As for its position I think I should just copy stimming and put it after the first paragraph, as i like that page.
- Wait now it seems like I already knew the answer and should of done it myself, ill just wait a bit to see what others think and if no one responds after a week ill add it myself.
Anthony2106 (
talk)
06:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do not know if you are joking, but it is very rude to say "don't bother waiting for NotCharizard to respond" and imply I have died. Please do not do that again. My activity on Wikipedia goes up and down as with any hobby.
- I have added the image to the article. It is an excellent image, you are very right that it does seem almost designed for the article!
-- NotCharizard
🗨
07:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Notcharizard i dont think i was joking, as you left with no warning, im pretty sure that means you forgot your password or something happened to you, but you only stoped ending for like 20 days it was wrong of me to make this assumption, im sorry. maybe I was just upset you were gone as your a good editor.
- next time i say when i think something has happened to someone it will be like 2 years, that seems long enough, but maybe I shouldn't at all.
- shouldn't it say
Autistic art depicting a special interest in cats? or
Autistic art depicting a girls special intrest in cats? as
commons:user:MissLunaRose12 is autistic and she seid everything she illustrates is autistic art unless otherwise specified, but then autistic art couldnt be link in the see also section cus of
wp:notseealso
Anthony2106 (
talk)
14:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
user:notcharizard please don't hate me
Anthony2106 (
talk)
00:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do not hate you! The comment just made me feel a bit hurt, but do not worry - I tend to (topically) hyperfocus on Wikipedia for a bit and then dissapear ( my activity log is pretty spiky).
- "Artistic art" would be a great caption! Feel free to add it yourself, generally it is good to
be bold with small edits and if someone disagrees they can just change it themself :)
-- NotCharizard
🗨
10:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- yeah i might just change it myself like how i added a photo to stimming, it looks good dosent it? (pats own back). also i want you to check the bottom of talk:autism#Having more then one image as i think the infinity 8 sybole would be a good photo for the autism page, should i just add it? - no, too bold. also i changed the photo on one of your user boxes to use vector graphics as per Commons:Commons:Media for cleanup, your welcome. Anthony2106 ( talk) 10:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
... left with no warning, ... you only stoped ending for like 20 days ... next time i say when i think something has happened to someone it will be like 2 years, that seems long enough, but maybe I shouldn't at all
— I make no comment about the appropriateness of saying anything at all, or the time before doing so, but refer you to {{ Not around}}, the documentation for which includes:It is generally not advisable to add this template to the talk page of any Wikipedia user who has stopped editing for a short amount of time. Wait at least three months before listing someone who has simply ceased editing.
- Mitch Ames ( talk) 03:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
user:notcharizard please don't hate me
Anthony2106 (
talk)
00:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)