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Should there be a disambiguation page? Spaghetti can also mean rubbish code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_code. We should at least mention it.
-- David.Mestel 21:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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People keep adding Flying Spaghetti Monsterism on this page - please note, a link is already on the disambig page - AKeen 17:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of which, Monsters(Matchbook Romance song) Redirects here. Probably some anon vandal. Dont know much about the song or its album, but i know it is a song in GH3. Mister Anon(no not really, just an anon)76.112.196.180 May 11 08 (UTC)
There are two different things here.. spaghetti and OTHER pasta. Spaghetti is specifically the round kind of long noodles, and the ones that were preppared in Italy were squared. The round kind of pasta that is known as spaghetti was invented by Leonardo DaVinci, according to various sources. I shall investigate further and append this and more culinary facts in Leonardo da Vinci and afterwards will insist on this. note: I might be wrong with the names. I am not an english speaker, but I seriously doubt the names should be THAT different -- Lacrymology 12:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Heh, I have nothing really productive to say here, I just have to mention that since this has been in my watchlist, I've been shocked at how much vandalism there is. Seriously! Usually pages that get vandalized this much are about something controversial and related to current events. Was spaghetti involved in a recent international sex scandal that I just didn't hear about or something? heh.... -- Jaysweet 22:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Well it has just been declared that spaghetti grows on trees in a very well developed paragraph. I am afraid to change it back considering that it can actually be cited out of a BBC April Fool's Joke, which is a published documentary. Redian ( Talk) 18:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Do you know that spaghetti is also a dangerous dish? In some countries such as the Philippines, there have been numerous reports about people getting ill because of eating spaghetti. This is due to using left-over sauce. Perhaps this idea should be included in the article. 124.106.203.252 12:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there were several cases over the years here in the Philippines that testifies to your facts but you entiltled this as Food Poisoning, didnt you? Because come to think of it in respect with that, there were a other cases of food poisoning that involves shellfish (this is the most frequent reason here...)and the poisoning is the byproduct not necessarily of the ingredients, in this case -- the pasta, but rather by the preparation (cooking) or the other factors ( room temperature, packaging or other ingredients like pork)might be the reason why it even became a threat to anyone's life!Ergo, your claim isnt really necessary!
---FYI---from the Philippines —Preceding
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See this article on The Straight Dope [1]. I think some reference to this incredibly complex physics debate belongs in this article, but I am hesitant to do this (boldly) because of the controversy it could cause. Consensus anyone? Deltopia ( talk) 13:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
In 48 hours I'm going to delete large portions of the Origins section since it's almost entirely unsourced. Reinoe ( talk) 15:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is this presented as if contradicting the Marco Polo claim? Pasta is not spaghetti.
And now we have to throw noodles into the mix just in case we haven't fucked with the reader's mind enough. I am thoroughly confused. TrueMirror 17:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Because the Chinese were first to invent noodles does not mean it was their recipe which travelled the world. The Inca people had agriculture. They didn't get a postcard from Mesopotamia, they thought it up themselves. That's the point people miss about culture. Sometimes two or more people invent the same thing, like language or writing or clothes. Sometimes people invent things which get forgotten and have to be reinvented, or rediscovered, like Greek philosophy. Viewing culture as a ladder is simplistic. It's more like a tree, with lots of limbs, some dead, some alive, spreading all over. 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
"In Sicily, the accepted method for determining how well cooked the noodles are, is to throw a cluster against the wall. Once the first cluster sticks, the pasta is ready for consumption" - I'd like to ask someone from Sicily, because... well, this was one of the scare stories told me about the terrors of eating abroad when I first visited England. "No, really, they throw a noodle to the wal and when it sticks tey think it's okay! Can you imagine eating that gooey stuff?" Tridentinus 12:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm Italian American and we have an old secret trick to knowing when the pasta is done. We pull one out and eat it. If it's not done, we let them cook. If it is, we eat the rest of them. 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
"The spoof religion Pastafarianism holds that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster."
I object! Pastafariansim is NOT a spoof religion. It's just a real religion as Christianity, Judaisim, the worship of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, Islam, Confusionism, and what not!
Please delete the first photo in this article. We, Italians, NEVER use parmesan cheese over spaghetti with tomato sauce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.222.93.129 ( talk) 18:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
And anyway, not everyone who eats spaghetti is Italian. I eat my spaghetti like that all the time, and so do most the people I know. TwistedRed 23:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Any particular reason you decided to put your post in the middle of mine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TwistedRed ( talk • contribs) 22:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
TwistedRed ( talk) 17:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC) A loyal Pastafarian
I put parmigian on spaghetti all the time. What I object to is the way the sauce is poured over the pasta. Yuck! Che 'mericano! 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Too many sophomoric claims without citations: 'sometimes served with chili con carne' and 'Unlike in Italy, abroad spaghetti is often served with Bolognese sauce'.
Spaghetti with chopsticks? I don't know why, but that sounds remarkably silly. At least in South Korea, the idea would be taken as rather humorous and/or pitiful and--while I didn't actually live in Japan--I would claim the same case for Japan as well. Considering that that's already two fifth of East Asian countries where spaghetti is eaten widely, claiming that East Asians sometimes eat spaghetti with chopsticks sounds frivolous. I mean, I'm not saying that this doesn't happen. It's just that the idea is similar to eating sushi with fork and knife. :/ -- 129.237.14.160 ( talk) 18:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
In the US, a thin type of macaroni is sold as "elbow spaghetti", but is not spaghetti at all, as it has a hollow center like macaroni.-- RLent ( talk) 21:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I think it´s a sin to put oil in the water. On the picture you can see oil! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.212.50.213 ( talk) 12:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
it is... you should never ever put oil into the water (regardless of the kind and quality). What happens is that the oil will prevent the sauce from sticking to the noodles. So, you'll basically eat the spaghetti plain and the sauce will remain on your plate. If you like the taste of olive oil, put it in the sauce, not in the water. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.0.145.90 ( talk) 22:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Its all a last grab of the west to hold on to culture, ideas and things that was "borrowed" and transferred to the west from the east after the collapse of the Arab Empires. History was written by the last winners, and that was Europe. The truth was buried to prove their superiority. With a global culture on the rise we are now realizing that all these ideas that they claim to be theirs actually was developed in the east and transported to the west, so much stuff was developed and came from the east... China, the Arabs, Persia, India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.151.180 ( talk) 17:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Did you know that spagetti turns purple in your tummy and half of what you ate goes to your brain and sits there for 20 years to mold. Well, the story as I heard it anyway, is that pasta/noodles already existed in Italy, what Marco Polo and other traders brought was specifically long noodles (AKA spaghetti or lo-mein). Since I'm not sure I could verify that, I'm not putting it in the main article. -- Logotu 19:37, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD91630F934A35751C1A96E948260
http://www.socyberty.com/History/Did-Marco-Polo-Introduce-the-Italians-to-Pasta-From-China.72108
http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/FOOD_IS_ART/pasta/historypasta.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198607/pasta
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=189891
http://www.lifeinitaly.com/food/pasta-history.asp
http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=9780231124423
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/lifestyle/article.jsp?content=20080109_143844_1804
http://www.professionalpasta.it/dir_9/1_whoinv.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article577909.ece
Can we put this nonsense to bed now???????????? 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
mmm.....answers google is a credible source...last time i checked random websites are not credible sources and the ones that are credible only theorize of its origins...."stop the nonsense"....right after you.....sounds like your in denial...just accept the truth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.72.234 ( talk) 05:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC) you should look at the sources sighted not the search engine that found them! London Times, Macleans, the Atlantic monthlyetc. those are trusted sources! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 ( talk) 06:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
This article is very biased towards how spaghetti is prepared in the US and UK. I've lived in Italy for almost a decade and spaghetti is never cooked 10 to 15 minutes, for example. Since this is about an Italian food product, shouldn't the article focus on how it's prepared served in Italy and then perhaps mention how it's prepared in other nations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.227.106.189 ( talk) 03:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Why is this article semi-protected? No other foods out there seem to have any trouble, it may be because they can't agree on where it came from, or the possibility that it doubles as an internet meme.
Is this the only food protected on wiki? We can also move-protect it if needed, although I doubt food is a popular subject within the articles. 75.171.14.76 ( talk) 05:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
"Consumption of spaghetti in Italy doubled from 14 kilograms (30.9 lb) before World War II to 28 kilograms (61.7 lb) by 1955."??? Consuption of spaghetti was 14 kg per person or per family or per what? before WWII? - Yashowardhani ( talk) 07:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
"Consumption of spaghetti in Italy doubled from 14 kilograms (30.9 lb) before World War II to 28 kilograms (61.7 lb) by 1955"
I guess this means per person, and not over the whole country? KägeTorä - (影虎) ( TALK) 20:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
"Outside Italy it is often served with meatballs, although that is not a typical Italian recipe."
Really? The only place I've ever seen a meatball with my Spaghetti is in the USA... Correct me if I'm wrong here.
217.67.37.208 ( talk) 10:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
This article (rightly) mentions Italy, but it fails to mention the many other countries that consume spaghetti in various forms. The UK, for example, consumes huge quantities of tinned spaghetti (leading brand is Heinz, I should think, with tomato sauce), and spaghetti is also popular in such dishes as spaghetti bolognese. A whole paragraph dedicated to the food's popularity in the USA, with no other countries mentioned, is a bit weighted! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.57.199 ( talk) 00:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
In the "Serving" section I would add that in the United States is common to think that original italian spaghetti are served with meatballs but this is just a wrong rumor. Tiffanytoms ( talk) 23:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC) 15:59, 29 April 2014
I don't get why at the beginning of the article, where the initial description of spaghetti is, there is written "Italian dried spaghetti is made from durum wheat semolina, but outside of Italy and Sicily it may be made with other kinds of flour.". What does it mean "outside of Italy and Sicily"?? Sicily is in Italy! Tiffanytoms ( talk) 23:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC) 15:59, 29 April 2014
The Noodle page has some interesting and contradictory refs (such as dating) to this page. Some clarity and precision as to the similarities and contrasts of noodles and spaghetti (if any) would be a useful addition here, and actually across the raft of associated articles. I am aware there are no deadlines in wiki but.... I will try to come back myself to help, but must leave it now. SovalValtos ( talk) 13:58, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
The current layout disrupts the article. Could it be done otherwise, such as splitting into three columns, or even into text? SovalValtos ( talk) 16:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
I removed one word 'also' and in so doing seem to have changed the layout of the deprecated gallery "spaghetti dishes" which looked good before. I do not know what to do. I do not like un needed alsos, so will not put also back to salvage the layout. Maybe two rows of three images instead of one of six? SovalValtos ( talk) 18:13, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
The facts describe cooked spaghetti, not dry. The PDF reference is labelled "SPAGHETTI, ENRICHED, DRY" but the nutrition facts inside the PDF are for "1⁄2 cup (70g) spaghetti, cooked". Can be confirmed as the PDF states 32 1/2 cup servings in a 1-lb package... though actually this would mean a dry serving is 14g, while containing 22g of carbohydrates and 4g of protein. So that estimate is a bit off, but dry pasta is still mostly carbohydrates. 2601:600:8500:B2D9:C599:B0D:93B9:F5DE ( talk) 04:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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The subsection ===Italian cuisine=== currently contains the unsourced claim that:
Other spaghetti preparations include Bolognese... [4]
In an Italian context, this is simply not so. In Italy, bolognese sauce is *not* eaten with spaghetti. Unlike spaghetti alla carbonara, so-called spaghetti bolognese is not Italian (per the reliably sourced target page).
This content needs to be relocated under ===International cuisine===. Thank you, 86.157.144.92 ( talk) 09:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
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Spaghetti bolognese is a popular dish outside of Italy, which consists of a meat and tomato sauce served on a bed of spaghetti (in Italy, spaghetti is not traditionally served with any type of ragù). [1]
The only source for microwave preparation is a reddit post with 2 points and no comments, added by someone with the same wikipedia username as reddit username. This doesn't seem like a reliable third party source. I found a couple of online articles that might be more reliable: http://lifehacker.com/boil-microwave-pasta-by-adding-three-minutes-to-the-nor-1699281678 and http://www.tablespoon.com/posts/how-to-make-pasta-in-the-microwave/0812d5fe-4345-432b-87bd-c83589a219d8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.19.220.253 ( talk) 23:06, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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The infobox accounts for only 26.504g of the 70g serving analysed. And that includes 1g of fibre.
Surely there is not almost 45g of water in 70g of dry spaghetti? There will be some, but...
What is missing? Andrewa ( talk) 20:48, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
As a Briton, I tend to think of "spaghetti" as being the name of the type of pasta, to which you append the name of the sauce - "Spaghetti Carbonara", "Spaghetti Bolognese" and so on.
However, I have seen both in conversations with Americans and on American media generally that "Spaghetti" in US usage refers just as often to a specific dish (which I think may be what I know as "Spaghetti Bolognese"). Can anyone shed a little more light on this and is it worth adding a mention in passing on the page? Brickie ( talk) 12:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Some people pull spagetti out of their noses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.118.11 ( talk) 16:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
In the US Spaghetti often means spaghetti with some kind of tomato sauce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 ( talk) 06:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
In the US the word Spaghetti is also sometimes used erroneously as a general term for pasta 207.237.208.153 ( talk) 20:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
In Germany "spaghetti", standing alone, means spaghetti with tomato sauce (sauté some onion and garlic in olive oil, deglaze with sieved tomatoes and add some water, or deglaze with more water and add tomato paste; cook that a bit; add some salt and as much pepper as you like) or even with butter and ketchup. Not bolognese, though; even where "bolognese" means nothing but "a tomato sauce with added mincemeat", that is much too special a dish. (Not to mention that both actual bolognese sauce and tomato-mincemeat-sauce fit better to other kinds of pasta.)-- 2001:A61:20DA:B301:D9BE:9FF0:102C:3DB4 ( talk) 14:48, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Can anyone find an image of a factory spaghetti extruding production line, please? Better than a thousand words. All the photos of servings are foodie dreams. How about some standard USA mass market tinned product? Sorry to bring it up again, but an image of the BBC (UK TV station) April Fools joke of spaghetti on trees could have its place in cultural references? SovalValtos ( talk) 08:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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plz let me edit this as it may have wrong information and I'm highly offended. Coolname123 ( talk) 17:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
"Some historians think that Berbers introduced pasta to Europe during a conquest of Sicily. In the West, it may have first been worked into long, thin forms in Sicily around the 12th century, as the Tabula Rogeriana of Muhammad al-Idrisi attested, reporting some traditions about the Sicilian kingdom.[5]"
The pasta were cooked in Italy during the roman times. Berbers have nothing to do with it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:5018:7100:9C76:D99:D2EB:EC12 ( talk) 16:01, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
All i need to know is how to make spaghetti the real way because all the internet comes up with is how to boil it and how to make the bolonase!!! please can someone tell me how to make it?
what do you mean how to make it< once you boil it you can include in thousands of different recipes, including meat sauce, marinara, carbonara,tetrazini,bolognese,etc. etc.etc. —Preceding
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This is not covered in the article and it should be.Making your own spaghetti (or more to the point how spaghetti is made) is a completely different from how it is cooked. OrewaTel ( talk) 04:37, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to see more information on the process of creating spaghetti. I came to this page with hopes of adding a "see also: Spaghetti#Production" to the Spaghetti tree hoax article. Justin Ormont ( talk) 04:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a section, "Production" with a sub-section "Fresh spaghetti" but it is completely wrong.It states that you can make spaghetti by cutting sheets and it even cites a web page that says the same thing.This of course it totally impossible. Spaghetti is cylindrical and it is impracticable to produce it by cutting. What is described is how to make a form of fettucini. I am searching for a reliable source of the real way of making spaghetti. (It involves pulling pasta and elongating it by whirling it like a skipping rope.)I intend to replace the current paragraph. In any case the current paragraph being wrong must be removed or relabelled. OrewaTel ( talk) 05:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Programme, not program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.2.143 ( talk) 16:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
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The Italian wikipedia article for Spaghetti is of high quality and avoids any useless, tiresome commentary about American habits. Try running through Google Translate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:7004:1400:4DE9:215D:ADF1:90EF ( talk) 09:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Jesus fuck those spaghetti pics are huge. mnemonic 10:34, 2004 Jun 27 (UTC)
I just re-edit this page about spaghetti. The original Italian spaghetti (and the only "al dente" qualities) come from durum wheat ! In italy you don't find anything but durum wheat spaghetti, just because other kind of flours make spaghetti consistency very similar to the consistency of a pudding. Common wheat flour is the main ingredient for some kinds of fresh pasta, but spaghetti is not a kind of fresh pasta. The kind of fresh pasta which is similar to spaghetti is fettuccine, a typical Emilia Romagna (northern Italy) pasta.
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Please remove the word “noodles” from your definition of spaghetti. Spaghetti and noodles are two distinct categories. Thank you. Sarahaedwards25 ( talk) 03:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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The picture labeled "Pesto spaghetti" clearly depicts linguine, not spaghetti, and should be removed or moved to the other article.
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A former version of the article had:
However the Oxford English Dictionary currently still gives the singular as spaghetto for English speaking users.
However, the Oxford English Dictionary Online (2nd ed.) says no such thing, as of July 2006, and in fact the word "spaghetto" is only used in the etymology. Thus, I've removed this comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.179.194.93 ( talk • contribs)
Most people don't know this, but spaghetti actually originated in New York around 1910. It came from the spaghetto. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hootocol ( talk • contribs) 15:00, August 21, 2007 (UTC).
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Should there be a disambiguation page? Spaghetti can also mean rubbish code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_code. We should at least mention it.
-- David.Mestel 21:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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People keep adding Flying Spaghetti Monsterism on this page - please note, a link is already on the disambig page - AKeen 17:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of which, Monsters(Matchbook Romance song) Redirects here. Probably some anon vandal. Dont know much about the song or its album, but i know it is a song in GH3. Mister Anon(no not really, just an anon)76.112.196.180 May 11 08 (UTC)
There are two different things here.. spaghetti and OTHER pasta. Spaghetti is specifically the round kind of long noodles, and the ones that were preppared in Italy were squared. The round kind of pasta that is known as spaghetti was invented by Leonardo DaVinci, according to various sources. I shall investigate further and append this and more culinary facts in Leonardo da Vinci and afterwards will insist on this. note: I might be wrong with the names. I am not an english speaker, but I seriously doubt the names should be THAT different -- Lacrymology 12:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Heh, I have nothing really productive to say here, I just have to mention that since this has been in my watchlist, I've been shocked at how much vandalism there is. Seriously! Usually pages that get vandalized this much are about something controversial and related to current events. Was spaghetti involved in a recent international sex scandal that I just didn't hear about or something? heh.... -- Jaysweet 22:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Well it has just been declared that spaghetti grows on trees in a very well developed paragraph. I am afraid to change it back considering that it can actually be cited out of a BBC April Fool's Joke, which is a published documentary. Redian ( Talk) 18:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Do you know that spaghetti is also a dangerous dish? In some countries such as the Philippines, there have been numerous reports about people getting ill because of eating spaghetti. This is due to using left-over sauce. Perhaps this idea should be included in the article. 124.106.203.252 12:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there were several cases over the years here in the Philippines that testifies to your facts but you entiltled this as Food Poisoning, didnt you? Because come to think of it in respect with that, there were a other cases of food poisoning that involves shellfish (this is the most frequent reason here...)and the poisoning is the byproduct not necessarily of the ingredients, in this case -- the pasta, but rather by the preparation (cooking) or the other factors ( room temperature, packaging or other ingredients like pork)might be the reason why it even became a threat to anyone's life!Ergo, your claim isnt really necessary!
---FYI---from the Philippines —Preceding
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See this article on The Straight Dope [1]. I think some reference to this incredibly complex physics debate belongs in this article, but I am hesitant to do this (boldly) because of the controversy it could cause. Consensus anyone? Deltopia ( talk) 13:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
In 48 hours I'm going to delete large portions of the Origins section since it's almost entirely unsourced. Reinoe ( talk) 15:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is this presented as if contradicting the Marco Polo claim? Pasta is not spaghetti.
And now we have to throw noodles into the mix just in case we haven't fucked with the reader's mind enough. I am thoroughly confused. TrueMirror 17:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Because the Chinese were first to invent noodles does not mean it was their recipe which travelled the world. The Inca people had agriculture. They didn't get a postcard from Mesopotamia, they thought it up themselves. That's the point people miss about culture. Sometimes two or more people invent the same thing, like language or writing or clothes. Sometimes people invent things which get forgotten and have to be reinvented, or rediscovered, like Greek philosophy. Viewing culture as a ladder is simplistic. It's more like a tree, with lots of limbs, some dead, some alive, spreading all over. 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
"In Sicily, the accepted method for determining how well cooked the noodles are, is to throw a cluster against the wall. Once the first cluster sticks, the pasta is ready for consumption" - I'd like to ask someone from Sicily, because... well, this was one of the scare stories told me about the terrors of eating abroad when I first visited England. "No, really, they throw a noodle to the wal and when it sticks tey think it's okay! Can you imagine eating that gooey stuff?" Tridentinus 12:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm Italian American and we have an old secret trick to knowing when the pasta is done. We pull one out and eat it. If it's not done, we let them cook. If it is, we eat the rest of them. 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
"The spoof religion Pastafarianism holds that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster."
I object! Pastafariansim is NOT a spoof religion. It's just a real religion as Christianity, Judaisim, the worship of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, Islam, Confusionism, and what not!
Please delete the first photo in this article. We, Italians, NEVER use parmesan cheese over spaghetti with tomato sauce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.222.93.129 ( talk) 18:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
And anyway, not everyone who eats spaghetti is Italian. I eat my spaghetti like that all the time, and so do most the people I know. TwistedRed 23:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Any particular reason you decided to put your post in the middle of mine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TwistedRed ( talk • contribs) 22:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
TwistedRed ( talk) 17:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC) A loyal Pastafarian
I put parmigian on spaghetti all the time. What I object to is the way the sauce is poured over the pasta. Yuck! Che 'mericano! 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Too many sophomoric claims without citations: 'sometimes served with chili con carne' and 'Unlike in Italy, abroad spaghetti is often served with Bolognese sauce'.
Spaghetti with chopsticks? I don't know why, but that sounds remarkably silly. At least in South Korea, the idea would be taken as rather humorous and/or pitiful and--while I didn't actually live in Japan--I would claim the same case for Japan as well. Considering that that's already two fifth of East Asian countries where spaghetti is eaten widely, claiming that East Asians sometimes eat spaghetti with chopsticks sounds frivolous. I mean, I'm not saying that this doesn't happen. It's just that the idea is similar to eating sushi with fork and knife. :/ -- 129.237.14.160 ( talk) 18:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
In the US, a thin type of macaroni is sold as "elbow spaghetti", but is not spaghetti at all, as it has a hollow center like macaroni.-- RLent ( talk) 21:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I think it´s a sin to put oil in the water. On the picture you can see oil! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.212.50.213 ( talk) 12:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
it is... you should never ever put oil into the water (regardless of the kind and quality). What happens is that the oil will prevent the sauce from sticking to the noodles. So, you'll basically eat the spaghetti plain and the sauce will remain on your plate. If you like the taste of olive oil, put it in the sauce, not in the water. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.0.145.90 ( talk) 22:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Its all a last grab of the west to hold on to culture, ideas and things that was "borrowed" and transferred to the west from the east after the collapse of the Arab Empires. History was written by the last winners, and that was Europe. The truth was buried to prove their superiority. With a global culture on the rise we are now realizing that all these ideas that they claim to be theirs actually was developed in the east and transported to the west, so much stuff was developed and came from the east... China, the Arabs, Persia, India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.151.180 ( talk) 17:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Did you know that spagetti turns purple in your tummy and half of what you ate goes to your brain and sits there for 20 years to mold. Well, the story as I heard it anyway, is that pasta/noodles already existed in Italy, what Marco Polo and other traders brought was specifically long noodles (AKA spaghetti or lo-mein). Since I'm not sure I could verify that, I'm not putting it in the main article. -- Logotu 19:37, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD91630F934A35751C1A96E948260
http://www.socyberty.com/History/Did-Marco-Polo-Introduce-the-Italians-to-Pasta-From-China.72108
http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/FOOD_IS_ART/pasta/historypasta.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198607/pasta
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=189891
http://www.lifeinitaly.com/food/pasta-history.asp
http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=9780231124423
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/lifestyle/article.jsp?content=20080109_143844_1804
http://www.professionalpasta.it/dir_9/1_whoinv.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article577909.ece
Can we put this nonsense to bed now???????????? 72.78.179.244 ( talk) 20:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
mmm.....answers google is a credible source...last time i checked random websites are not credible sources and the ones that are credible only theorize of its origins...."stop the nonsense"....right after you.....sounds like your in denial...just accept the truth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.72.234 ( talk) 05:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC) you should look at the sources sighted not the search engine that found them! London Times, Macleans, the Atlantic monthlyetc. those are trusted sources! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 ( talk) 06:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
This article is very biased towards how spaghetti is prepared in the US and UK. I've lived in Italy for almost a decade and spaghetti is never cooked 10 to 15 minutes, for example. Since this is about an Italian food product, shouldn't the article focus on how it's prepared served in Italy and then perhaps mention how it's prepared in other nations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.227.106.189 ( talk) 03:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Why is this article semi-protected? No other foods out there seem to have any trouble, it may be because they can't agree on where it came from, or the possibility that it doubles as an internet meme.
Is this the only food protected on wiki? We can also move-protect it if needed, although I doubt food is a popular subject within the articles. 75.171.14.76 ( talk) 05:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
"Consumption of spaghetti in Italy doubled from 14 kilograms (30.9 lb) before World War II to 28 kilograms (61.7 lb) by 1955."??? Consuption of spaghetti was 14 kg per person or per family or per what? before WWII? - Yashowardhani ( talk) 07:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
"Consumption of spaghetti in Italy doubled from 14 kilograms (30.9 lb) before World War II to 28 kilograms (61.7 lb) by 1955"
I guess this means per person, and not over the whole country? KägeTorä - (影虎) ( TALK) 20:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
"Outside Italy it is often served with meatballs, although that is not a typical Italian recipe."
Really? The only place I've ever seen a meatball with my Spaghetti is in the USA... Correct me if I'm wrong here.
217.67.37.208 ( talk) 10:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
This article (rightly) mentions Italy, but it fails to mention the many other countries that consume spaghetti in various forms. The UK, for example, consumes huge quantities of tinned spaghetti (leading brand is Heinz, I should think, with tomato sauce), and spaghetti is also popular in such dishes as spaghetti bolognese. A whole paragraph dedicated to the food's popularity in the USA, with no other countries mentioned, is a bit weighted! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.57.199 ( talk) 00:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
In the "Serving" section I would add that in the United States is common to think that original italian spaghetti are served with meatballs but this is just a wrong rumor. Tiffanytoms ( talk) 23:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC) 15:59, 29 April 2014
I don't get why at the beginning of the article, where the initial description of spaghetti is, there is written "Italian dried spaghetti is made from durum wheat semolina, but outside of Italy and Sicily it may be made with other kinds of flour.". What does it mean "outside of Italy and Sicily"?? Sicily is in Italy! Tiffanytoms ( talk) 23:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC) 15:59, 29 April 2014
The Noodle page has some interesting and contradictory refs (such as dating) to this page. Some clarity and precision as to the similarities and contrasts of noodles and spaghetti (if any) would be a useful addition here, and actually across the raft of associated articles. I am aware there are no deadlines in wiki but.... I will try to come back myself to help, but must leave it now. SovalValtos ( talk) 13:58, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
The current layout disrupts the article. Could it be done otherwise, such as splitting into three columns, or even into text? SovalValtos ( talk) 16:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
I removed one word 'also' and in so doing seem to have changed the layout of the deprecated gallery "spaghetti dishes" which looked good before. I do not know what to do. I do not like un needed alsos, so will not put also back to salvage the layout. Maybe two rows of three images instead of one of six? SovalValtos ( talk) 18:13, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
The facts describe cooked spaghetti, not dry. The PDF reference is labelled "SPAGHETTI, ENRICHED, DRY" but the nutrition facts inside the PDF are for "1⁄2 cup (70g) spaghetti, cooked". Can be confirmed as the PDF states 32 1/2 cup servings in a 1-lb package... though actually this would mean a dry serving is 14g, while containing 22g of carbohydrates and 4g of protein. So that estimate is a bit off, but dry pasta is still mostly carbohydrates. 2601:600:8500:B2D9:C599:B0D:93B9:F5DE ( talk) 04:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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The subsection ===Italian cuisine=== currently contains the unsourced claim that:
Other spaghetti preparations include Bolognese... [4]
In an Italian context, this is simply not so. In Italy, bolognese sauce is *not* eaten with spaghetti. Unlike spaghetti alla carbonara, so-called spaghetti bolognese is not Italian (per the reliably sourced target page).
This content needs to be relocated under ===International cuisine===. Thank you, 86.157.144.92 ( talk) 09:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
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Spaghetti bolognese is a popular dish outside of Italy, which consists of a meat and tomato sauce served on a bed of spaghetti (in Italy, spaghetti is not traditionally served with any type of ragù). [1]
The only source for microwave preparation is a reddit post with 2 points and no comments, added by someone with the same wikipedia username as reddit username. This doesn't seem like a reliable third party source. I found a couple of online articles that might be more reliable: http://lifehacker.com/boil-microwave-pasta-by-adding-three-minutes-to-the-nor-1699281678 and http://www.tablespoon.com/posts/how-to-make-pasta-in-the-microwave/0812d5fe-4345-432b-87bd-c83589a219d8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.19.220.253 ( talk) 23:06, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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The infobox accounts for only 26.504g of the 70g serving analysed. And that includes 1g of fibre.
Surely there is not almost 45g of water in 70g of dry spaghetti? There will be some, but...
What is missing? Andrewa ( talk) 20:48, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
As a Briton, I tend to think of "spaghetti" as being the name of the type of pasta, to which you append the name of the sauce - "Spaghetti Carbonara", "Spaghetti Bolognese" and so on.
However, I have seen both in conversations with Americans and on American media generally that "Spaghetti" in US usage refers just as often to a specific dish (which I think may be what I know as "Spaghetti Bolognese"). Can anyone shed a little more light on this and is it worth adding a mention in passing on the page? Brickie ( talk) 12:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Some people pull spagetti out of their noses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.118.11 ( talk) 16:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
In the US Spaghetti often means spaghetti with some kind of tomato sauce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 ( talk) 06:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
In the US the word Spaghetti is also sometimes used erroneously as a general term for pasta 207.237.208.153 ( talk) 20:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
In Germany "spaghetti", standing alone, means spaghetti with tomato sauce (sauté some onion and garlic in olive oil, deglaze with sieved tomatoes and add some water, or deglaze with more water and add tomato paste; cook that a bit; add some salt and as much pepper as you like) or even with butter and ketchup. Not bolognese, though; even where "bolognese" means nothing but "a tomato sauce with added mincemeat", that is much too special a dish. (Not to mention that both actual bolognese sauce and tomato-mincemeat-sauce fit better to other kinds of pasta.)-- 2001:A61:20DA:B301:D9BE:9FF0:102C:3DB4 ( talk) 14:48, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Can anyone find an image of a factory spaghetti extruding production line, please? Better than a thousand words. All the photos of servings are foodie dreams. How about some standard USA mass market tinned product? Sorry to bring it up again, but an image of the BBC (UK TV station) April Fools joke of spaghetti on trees could have its place in cultural references? SovalValtos ( talk) 08:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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plz let me edit this as it may have wrong information and I'm highly offended. Coolname123 ( talk) 17:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
"Some historians think that Berbers introduced pasta to Europe during a conquest of Sicily. In the West, it may have first been worked into long, thin forms in Sicily around the 12th century, as the Tabula Rogeriana of Muhammad al-Idrisi attested, reporting some traditions about the Sicilian kingdom.[5]"
The pasta were cooked in Italy during the roman times. Berbers have nothing to do with it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:5018:7100:9C76:D99:D2EB:EC12 ( talk) 16:01, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
All i need to know is how to make spaghetti the real way because all the internet comes up with is how to boil it and how to make the bolonase!!! please can someone tell me how to make it?
what do you mean how to make it< once you boil it you can include in thousands of different recipes, including meat sauce, marinara, carbonara,tetrazini,bolognese,etc. etc.etc. —Preceding
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This is not covered in the article and it should be.Making your own spaghetti (or more to the point how spaghetti is made) is a completely different from how it is cooked. OrewaTel ( talk) 04:37, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to see more information on the process of creating spaghetti. I came to this page with hopes of adding a "see also: Spaghetti#Production" to the Spaghetti tree hoax article. Justin Ormont ( talk) 04:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a section, "Production" with a sub-section "Fresh spaghetti" but it is completely wrong.It states that you can make spaghetti by cutting sheets and it even cites a web page that says the same thing.This of course it totally impossible. Spaghetti is cylindrical and it is impracticable to produce it by cutting. What is described is how to make a form of fettucini. I am searching for a reliable source of the real way of making spaghetti. (It involves pulling pasta and elongating it by whirling it like a skipping rope.)I intend to replace the current paragraph. In any case the current paragraph being wrong must be removed or relabelled. OrewaTel ( talk) 05:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Programme, not program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.2.143 ( talk) 16:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
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The Italian wikipedia article for Spaghetti is of high quality and avoids any useless, tiresome commentary about American habits. Try running through Google Translate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:7004:1400:4DE9:215D:ADF1:90EF ( talk) 09:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Jesus fuck those spaghetti pics are huge. mnemonic 10:34, 2004 Jun 27 (UTC)
I just re-edit this page about spaghetti. The original Italian spaghetti (and the only "al dente" qualities) come from durum wheat ! In italy you don't find anything but durum wheat spaghetti, just because other kind of flours make spaghetti consistency very similar to the consistency of a pudding. Common wheat flour is the main ingredient for some kinds of fresh pasta, but spaghetti is not a kind of fresh pasta. The kind of fresh pasta which is similar to spaghetti is fettuccine, a typical Emilia Romagna (northern Italy) pasta.
true 31.27.159.113 ( talk) 06:39, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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Please remove the word “noodles” from your definition of spaghetti. Spaghetti and noodles are two distinct categories. Thank you. Sarahaedwards25 ( talk) 03:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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The picture labeled "Pesto spaghetti" clearly depicts linguine, not spaghetti, and should be removed or moved to the other article.
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A former version of the article had:
However the Oxford English Dictionary currently still gives the singular as spaghetto for English speaking users.
However, the Oxford English Dictionary Online (2nd ed.) says no such thing, as of July 2006, and in fact the word "spaghetto" is only used in the etymology. Thus, I've removed this comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.179.194.93 ( talk • contribs)
Most people don't know this, but spaghetti actually originated in New York around 1910. It came from the spaghetto. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hootocol ( talk • contribs) 15:00, August 21, 2007 (UTC).