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Almost all sorts of fruits vegetables found in south Asia are pickled in this manner, including pumpkins, palm hearts, lotus stems, mango slices, limes and rose petals, along with vegetables more conventionally pickled in the west.
Fruits and vegetables used section
Almost all sorts of fruits vegetables found in South Asia are pickled in this manner, including pumpkins, heart of palm, mango slices, and rose petals, along with vegetables more conventionally pickled in the west
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91.107.86.50 (
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Proposal: merge Achar into Indian Pickle. These are the same food. Badagnani 07:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I have inserted Image:Indian pickles and cutney.jpg in response to a picture request. If the presence of the sweet mango chutney is inappropriate to this page you may wish to consider replacing it with Image:Lime pickle.jpg or Image:Hot mango pickle.jpg. LittlePete 18:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I've put it at the top of the "Preparation" section, where it doesn't really belong, rather than in the header because it causes ugly layout problems there. LittlePete 00:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
And I see I've mistyped "chutney" as "cutney" in the image name. Will sort. LittlePete 00:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Sorted. LittlePete 01:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
That cuisine template is gigantic, it dwarfs the content of the article, isn' there a way to make that thing smaller somehow?-- Christopher Tanner, CCC 03:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The image used with this article clearly advertises a brand. It's not fare for Wikipedia articles unless the page is about the brand itself. Why to give free adds? Manjithkaini 06:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
this is describing the same thing, and this title is more appropriate for an English wiki. FiveRings ( talk) 02:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
What is the fruit used to make a North Indian pickle made from a hard, green fruit with tan seeds that look a bit like large lemon seeds? It's not lemon or mango. Badagnani ( talk) 21:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Need to determine what species the Indian vegetable tenti dela (used in Indian pickles) is. Badagnani ( talk) 22:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it the same as kerda? What is the species of kerda? Is it Capparis decidua? Badagnani ( talk) 06:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed that the article uses the word flavor ( American spelling). Commonwealth spelling is the most widely used variety of English in India. As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Strong national ties to a topic, I propose the spelling to be changed to flavour. Please state if you support or oppose. Joshua Issac ( talk) 12:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It's lactofermentation, but what is the % in alcohol? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:4C9C:FA0:474F:52B1 ( talk) 12:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 05:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
South Asian pickles → Achaar – Wouldn't it be simpler? -- Comedora ( talk) 04:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. -- Dane talk 05:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 02:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
South Asian pickles → Desi pickles – South Asia is a broad term. This item has nothing to do with Afghanistan. We need to change the title to reflect where it is consumed. The overwhelming literature points to " Desi pickles" or at least " Indian pickles". ( Highpeaks35 ( talk) 00:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC))
This title South Asian pickles is very clunky and it seems like it is clearly not the most common name. I think it clearly violates WP:COMMONNAME, after reading this wiki guide. I looked at google books, and the name South Asian pickles does not even register much, in comparison to Indian pickles or achaar. Can we agree Pickle (Indian subcontinent), Indian pickles or achaar fits with WP:COMMONNAME? Personally, I love achaar, since it is most common name, and WP:COMMONNAME will attest to it. Also, there are other articles like Acar or Atchara which exists. Vanamonde93, Kautilya3, Gotitbro and others, what do you guys think? We really need to fix this article. Again, I want to have a respectful discussion and get the article and the title fixed up. ( Highpeaks35 ( talk) 15:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC))
" Indian subcontinent will be clearer, than the broader South Asia"Why? Vanamonde ( talk) 17:22, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
@ Highpeaks35: What the heck is this then, Mr Honest Guy? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:15, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Highpeaks35 I'm sorry you can't decide post facto when the dispute began and then revert the article to the preferred version edited by you. Please note, volunteering to improve the article yourself is no free pass to editing it according to your tastes and biases. (PS Please go back and also change the edits in Naan, where among other things, you have not only removed "South Asia," and therefore, by your own logic, have left Afghanistan in the lurch, considering it is eaten there more than anywhere in India, even in the villages. You have added a Flickr image of a western man's home improvised cheese naan, and captioned it "Paneer naan from India.") Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Highpeaks35 Please take your gripe to the WP forum of your choosing. Please be aware that there is also something called Status quo stonewalling. You are not engaging anyone here on the talk page, simply reverting to some fantasized "previous version" with mysteriously laconic edit summaries. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 02:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Highpeaks35, this discussion is going quite out of hand. As far as I can see there is no "dispute". You have filed a move request, which has found no support. I made an edit based on policy, WP:BOLDAVOID, which you reverted claiming there is a "dispute". I accept that you were going to STATUSQUO, and won't hold that against you. But, you haven't explained what "dispute" there supposedly is. Without a dispute, STATUSQUO doesn't apply.
You have received an ARBIPA notification within the last 12 months. Please take care not to cross the line. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:21, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
The authentic Gundruk pickel is available in Nepal is also originated from Nepal and is eaten widely. It is made up of dry spinach, veg leaves etc added with tasty peppers, salts, oil and special akabare khursani chilly Prashantsubedii ( talk) 13:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I propose to merge Avakaya into South Asian pickle (this article). I think that the content in the Avakaya article can easily be explained in the context of South Asian pickle, especially considering it is merely a specific type of South Asian pickle (mango pickle) whose name is merely in the Telugu language. Seeing as there's no reason we should be having a different article for each of the types of pickles each enumerated in the various languages of India, I think this merger makes sense. As for size, the Avakaya article is quite short, and this article could use the increase in detail / specifics that would be gained from merging that article. Getsnoopy ( talk) 05:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
It makes no sense that this would historically not be fermented, and many sources refer to it as such:
According to Collingham, as the British established dominion over India, among the many Indian culinary features that cooks back in Old Blighty eagerly adopted was that of Indian pickles. “Indians very rarely used vinegar, and their pickles were made by layering vegetables or fruits in jars with oil or water. The mixture was flavoured with salt and spices and the jars were set in the hot sun where they were left to ferment. Lacking the intense heat of the Indian sun, British cooks resorted to vinegar to carry out the pickling process. Godal ( talk) 09:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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There is repetition of text:
First section
Almost all sorts of fruits vegetables found in south Asia are pickled in this manner, including pumpkins, palm hearts, lotus stems, mango slices, limes and rose petals, along with vegetables more conventionally pickled in the west.
Fruits and vegetables used section
Almost all sorts of fruits vegetables found in South Asia are pickled in this manner, including pumpkins, heart of palm, mango slices, and rose petals, along with vegetables more conventionally pickled in the west
--
91.107.86.50 (
talk) 19:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Proposal: merge Achar into Indian Pickle. These are the same food. Badagnani 07:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I have inserted Image:Indian pickles and cutney.jpg in response to a picture request. If the presence of the sweet mango chutney is inappropriate to this page you may wish to consider replacing it with Image:Lime pickle.jpg or Image:Hot mango pickle.jpg. LittlePete 18:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I've put it at the top of the "Preparation" section, where it doesn't really belong, rather than in the header because it causes ugly layout problems there. LittlePete 00:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
And I see I've mistyped "chutney" as "cutney" in the image name. Will sort. LittlePete 00:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Sorted. LittlePete 01:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
That cuisine template is gigantic, it dwarfs the content of the article, isn' there a way to make that thing smaller somehow?-- Christopher Tanner, CCC 03:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The image used with this article clearly advertises a brand. It's not fare for Wikipedia articles unless the page is about the brand itself. Why to give free adds? Manjithkaini 06:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
this is describing the same thing, and this title is more appropriate for an English wiki. FiveRings ( talk) 02:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
What is the fruit used to make a North Indian pickle made from a hard, green fruit with tan seeds that look a bit like large lemon seeds? It's not lemon or mango. Badagnani ( talk) 21:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Need to determine what species the Indian vegetable tenti dela (used in Indian pickles) is. Badagnani ( talk) 22:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it the same as kerda? What is the species of kerda? Is it Capparis decidua? Badagnani ( talk) 06:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed that the article uses the word flavor ( American spelling). Commonwealth spelling is the most widely used variety of English in India. As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Strong national ties to a topic, I propose the spelling to be changed to flavour. Please state if you support or oppose. Joshua Issac ( talk) 12:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It's lactofermentation, but what is the % in alcohol? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:4C9C:FA0:474F:52B1 ( talk) 12:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 05:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
South Asian pickles → Achaar – Wouldn't it be simpler? -- Comedora ( talk) 04:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. -- Dane talk 05:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 02:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
South Asian pickles → Desi pickles – South Asia is a broad term. This item has nothing to do with Afghanistan. We need to change the title to reflect where it is consumed. The overwhelming literature points to " Desi pickles" or at least " Indian pickles". ( Highpeaks35 ( talk) 00:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC))
This title South Asian pickles is very clunky and it seems like it is clearly not the most common name. I think it clearly violates WP:COMMONNAME, after reading this wiki guide. I looked at google books, and the name South Asian pickles does not even register much, in comparison to Indian pickles or achaar. Can we agree Pickle (Indian subcontinent), Indian pickles or achaar fits with WP:COMMONNAME? Personally, I love achaar, since it is most common name, and WP:COMMONNAME will attest to it. Also, there are other articles like Acar or Atchara which exists. Vanamonde93, Kautilya3, Gotitbro and others, what do you guys think? We really need to fix this article. Again, I want to have a respectful discussion and get the article and the title fixed up. ( Highpeaks35 ( talk) 15:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC))
" Indian subcontinent will be clearer, than the broader South Asia"Why? Vanamonde ( talk) 17:22, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
@ Highpeaks35: What the heck is this then, Mr Honest Guy? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:15, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Highpeaks35 I'm sorry you can't decide post facto when the dispute began and then revert the article to the preferred version edited by you. Please note, volunteering to improve the article yourself is no free pass to editing it according to your tastes and biases. (PS Please go back and also change the edits in Naan, where among other things, you have not only removed "South Asia," and therefore, by your own logic, have left Afghanistan in the lurch, considering it is eaten there more than anywhere in India, even in the villages. You have added a Flickr image of a western man's home improvised cheese naan, and captioned it "Paneer naan from India.") Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Highpeaks35 Please take your gripe to the WP forum of your choosing. Please be aware that there is also something called Status quo stonewalling. You are not engaging anyone here on the talk page, simply reverting to some fantasized "previous version" with mysteriously laconic edit summaries. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 02:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Highpeaks35, this discussion is going quite out of hand. As far as I can see there is no "dispute". You have filed a move request, which has found no support. I made an edit based on policy, WP:BOLDAVOID, which you reverted claiming there is a "dispute". I accept that you were going to STATUSQUO, and won't hold that against you. But, you haven't explained what "dispute" there supposedly is. Without a dispute, STATUSQUO doesn't apply.
You have received an ARBIPA notification within the last 12 months. Please take care not to cross the line. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:21, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
The authentic Gundruk pickel is available in Nepal is also originated from Nepal and is eaten widely. It is made up of dry spinach, veg leaves etc added with tasty peppers, salts, oil and special akabare khursani chilly Prashantsubedii ( talk) 13:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I propose to merge Avakaya into South Asian pickle (this article). I think that the content in the Avakaya article can easily be explained in the context of South Asian pickle, especially considering it is merely a specific type of South Asian pickle (mango pickle) whose name is merely in the Telugu language. Seeing as there's no reason we should be having a different article for each of the types of pickles each enumerated in the various languages of India, I think this merger makes sense. As for size, the Avakaya article is quite short, and this article could use the increase in detail / specifics that would be gained from merging that article. Getsnoopy ( talk) 05:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
It makes no sense that this would historically not be fermented, and many sources refer to it as such:
According to Collingham, as the British established dominion over India, among the many Indian culinary features that cooks back in Old Blighty eagerly adopted was that of Indian pickles. “Indians very rarely used vinegar, and their pickles were made by layering vegetables or fruits in jars with oil or water. The mixture was flavoured with salt and spices and the jars were set in the hot sun where they were left to ferment. Lacking the intense heat of the Indian sun, British cooks resorted to vinegar to carry out the pickling process. Godal ( talk) 09:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2024 and 12 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Rajatrana1 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Rajatrana1 ( talk) 22:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)