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I was surprised to find out there was this many surpression orders around the case and they are still active. This includes canabalism which I have never seen mentioned any where, the only reason I know was a firend who was at the trial told about this. If theres anyway this information can be found and included it should.-- 60.242.71.160 ( talk) 11:03, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I really can't see how that map if Fair Use. BBC material is most certainly copyrighted. Remove? Shermozle 16:26, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
... but I wrote an article on Kuro5hin a while ago. If you want you can use whatever material you want. Article is at [1]. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Quote: "On May 21, 1999, a day after the discovery of the first eight bodies, three men - John Justin Bunting, Mark Ray Haydon and Robert Joe Wagner - were arrested and charged with murder in Adelaide Magistrates Court. On June 2, James Spyridon Vlassakis was also charged with murder."
How did the police come to arrest these people? Were they suspected and interviewed (if so, why were they suspects?), or did they confess voluntarily? More explanation needs to be given about this area of the case, so if anyone knows (I don't) please add it to the article! plattopus talk 09:17, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
So ... what actually needs doing, here?-- fuddlemark 15:44, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Suggest a format for cleanup ( Lisa 06:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC))
Really sorry to ask this so late in the piece, (working on this article makes me want to vomit or something!) but does it truly make sense to have "Snowtown murders" as the title to this article. Perhaps this title could redirect to "Bodies in Barrels murders" with other necessary redirects.
Being a resident of Snowtown at the time of this discovery it was remarked that the press was a bit unfair on us considering none of the murders occurred in Snowtown. But then it seems it came to be known by this name... So I tried not to let this affect my NPOV :) and the decision on naming the article.
But then I noticed that none of the links down the bottom mention "Snowtown murders" in their title. Perhaps "Bodies in Barrels" is actually the lasting name by which we know this event?
Either way I am unsure that the first sub section should be dedicated to Snowtown. Information about Snowtown is most relevant when we are trying to convey the impact the discovery of barrels had, but not useful for most other details of this case.
Thoughts? -- before I go ahead -- Lisa 01:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Did the suppression orders apply everywhere, or only in South Australia? I thought maybe editors from interstate would have access to information we dont't. -- Scott Davis Talk 01:20, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
There was no suppression order interstate. I remember when I was still living in Adelaide and was in Sydney when Snowtown was in committal. The media were all over it in Sydney, reporting live from Adelaide. There are also books on Snowtown and the trial that are sold here (in Melbourne) and I have also seen them in Queensland, with a sticker on the front saying "Not to be sold in SA". (I thought the supression orders were removed a few weeks ago). Frances76 11:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone have a reference for the recent addition that David Johnson was cooked and partially eaten? I don't have either book, but none of the online references support it that I can see. -- Scott Davis Talk 07:21, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
The assertion that these were Australia's "worst" serial killer is not an absolute truth. It has similarly been asserted that Ivan Milat is Australia's worst serial killer, in relation to the backpacker murders (although that case is far more controversial, as there are doubts that he did it alone, and hence doubts as to whether he is actually a serial killer). Regardless, I wonder if this statement could be researched, and perhaps cleaned up.
I have recently been made aware that wolf creek (movie) may have been at least partially based on this set of murders - with the closing credits stating explicitly that it was based on a set of murders committed in 1999. The movie itself has similarities to the Snowtown murders with regards to the torture and such, and has more similarities to this set of murders than to the backpacker murders. This came to prominence in 1999, and hence it could be what they were referring to? Similarly, when people refer to the backpacker murders they often say "1992 backpacker murders" when in reality they were 1988-1992. I think it is the same kind of thing, but would like to see it researched better. I had an edit war with cyberjunkie, because he didn't look at my references when I was writing about that. Thankfully that seems to be resolved now.
Just another thing. I have a vague recollection of a report on A Current Affair about a group of people who were ripping off Centrelink by collecting money for dead relatives, and that these people ended up committing murders. Was this the Snowtown murders? Or was that something else entirely? I didn't see it mentioned here, so presume it was either something else, or else nobody has thought to write from that angle. I did see that there was a line that said "for no other reason than to collect their pension cheques" which suggests that it was the same story. If it is, then I would suggest that a lot more could be added to this with regards to their motive for committing the murders. Zordrac 19:48, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Wolf Creek was marketed as being "based on true events". Although the producers have not disclosed which incidents inspired the film, some media sources have speculated that it may have been based on the backpacker murders of 1989-92, the Peter Falconio disappearance of 2001, and/or the 1992-99 Snowtown murders. The similarities of the film with the Falconio case led the defence team of the man charged (later convicted) with his murder, Bradley John Murdoch, to obtain a court order preventing Wolf Creek's release in the Northern Territory during the trial. The film's director and writer has stated that Wolf Creek is not based on any single event.
It seems that the various victims may have been killed for little more than their pension money. Police profilers later concluded that the murders were essentially motiveless and were inspired by hatred towards certain groups in society, such as homosexuals, paedophiles and the obese, rather than any specific motive. This isn't really explained in the article, and it also isn't cited. Were the victims homosexuals, paedophiles, or obese? - Elizabennet 04:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I can only speak for the last victim, David Johnson, but the info I have been given is that he was 'removed' in order that the youngest perpetrator, Vlassakis, could have clear access to a young lady that he convinced himself was enamoured with him. My family and I had met David in the context of his relationship with the young lady, I know the young lady very well. I personally brought the Detectives and the young lady into contact so they could get her story. I am not aware of whether her story made it into the Court records nor whether she was ever a witness. I can confirm that we (my family and I) knew all about the computer offered to David and we advised him through her that it was rubbish and wasn't worth going all the way to Snowtown for. He didn't take our advice. The young lady did. She is alive and well. There are witnesses to the conversations that took place but nothing from us was ever communicated to the Police except for my phone calls to the Detectives To my knowledge nothing was written down nor sworn as evidence so our involvement probably cannot show in the main article.
Ilox (
talk) 07:51, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Further information from the Court transcript:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/sa/SASC/2003/251.html verifying in part the relationship and her (and thus our) knowledge of the computer; (Note that her name was changed for protection.)
"252 Ms Linda Kovarskis was Johnson's girlfriend. She last spoke to him on 9 May 1999 and was told by Johnson that he was obtaining a computer from Bunting that day. Johnson told Kovarskis that the contact had been provided by Vlassakis. On Wednesday 12 May 1999, Kovarskis made enquiries as to the whereabouts of Johnson. At about 10.30 am on 13 May 1999, Kovarskis and her mother attended at Johnson's home. Their knock on the front door was answered by Vlassakis. He told Kovarskis that Johnson had made a thirteen year old girl pregnant and was seeing someone else. Kovarskis observed that Johnson's clothing and belongings were still in his room.
253 Kovarskis told Vlassakis to tell Johnson to call her. She said that if she did not get a call she would contact the police and report Johnson as missing. That same morning, a telephone intercept recorded a conversation between Vlassakis and Bunting in which they discussed the intention of Kovarskis to go to the police if Johnson did not call her that night. It is the Crown case that a plan was put in place to satisfy Kovarskis. Bunting purchased a telephone pack. He gave Johnson's birth certificate to Vlassakis to enable Vlassakis to register a SIM card in Johnson's former name, David Cheeseman. The number was given to Kovarskis. Bunting arranged for Elliott to impersonate Johnson's girlfriend. Bunting told Elliott that Johnson had left the State because he made a 13 year old girl pregnant. Elliott answered when Kovarskis telephoned and pretended to call out to Johnson. She told Kovarskis that Johnson must have been on the toilet and that she had to go. Elliott hung up. The SIM card was later found in Bunting's mobile telephone in a vehicle at Bundarra Court.
"
Iloxton ( talk) 06:25, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Examiners attempting to identify the remains found them mummified rather than dissolved, the latter being the apparent intention of storing the bodies in barrels of acid. The killers had chosen hydrochloric acid which mummified the remains. Sulfuric acid would have been more effective in dissolving the bodies. The last sentence seems to be totally unneccessary and designed to sound dramatic. Unless this specific issue came up in the investigation or trial directly (i.e. someone raised this fact) then it should be removed. - 203.39.12.130 ( talk) 07:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)Patrick Bateman
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Is there some reason this article uses the aliases Elizabeth Harvey and Jodie Elliott rather than their actual names? Mapjc ( talk) 17:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
What was Haydon's sentence? Please add it to the article with a source. Mr G ( talk) 01:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
I made some grammatical, punctuation, etc. corrections today. I did leave the pedophile spelling as I believe that it is an Australian spelling and the murders took place in Australia. Mylittlezach ( talk) 00:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
My intention is to do minor editing to this article. I have began by focusing on fixing some punctuation errors and adding transition words to connect ideas together. I have also restructured and re-ordered some of the already existing sections in order to make the article's information more coherent. Finally, I have began to add to the article's media section on books and movies based on the murders, but will continue to add to it as I do more research.
The work I have done so far is in my sandbox, the link is provided below. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions!
/info/en/?search=User:Margonzalezd/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margonzalezd ( talk • contribs) 16:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I made a little change to the article in order to improve the writing style and some of the grammar mistakes. here is the link to my sandbox of the article: : /info/en/?search=User:Katrina99 I corrected the grammar mistakes and change the writing style of some of the sentences. And, I also checked the spelling. Please give me some advises and suggestion. And I will make my work better. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katrina99 ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
This edit—purportedly on "unsourced" grounds—effectively removed much important (and unquestionably factual) content. I have therefore restored the content which can surely be sourced to the trial record (which I have also added, in a Sources section). It is not good enough for any editor to mindlessly expunge this sort of significant content without (a) carefully checking whether any references are available, and (b) seeking other opinions and consensus on the Talk page. Bjenks ( talk) 03:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
This article doesn't mention any of the victims or how the events link together. An extensive victims list should be added.For some insane reason, this edit was revoked: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Snowtown_murders&diff=601731135&oldid=601730963 Bomberswarm2 ( talk) 11:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
The Snowtown footer contains four links, all of which redirect back to the Snowtown page. That is quite hilariously useless. Either the four pages for the murderers need to be restored or delete the footer.
Slowclap ( talk) 21:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
The organisation didn't exist at the time and the word hadn't been coined. A bit of research would show what such payments were called at the time. That shouldn't be difficult, because re-organisations of government departments didn't happen so often then.
Jswd ( talk) 01:52, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
The article pictures the wrong bank building. The barrels were found in the vault of the building at https://goo.gl/maps/pi3oDkCjGPt
Format ( talk) 00:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
It's my understanding that deadnames are only included in Wikipedia articles if the person was widely known when they were going by that name. These are murder victims, killed in part for being transgender, and as such I don't think it's very relevant or thoughtful that their deadnames are included. Taylowrk ( talk) 09:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Is there a proper source linked that confirms Michelle's and Vanessa's assumed name and identity? Reference number 6 under Michelle's victim article that states she was a "transsexual" links to the court case document, which doesnt mention anything about them being trans, Vanessa's "pre-op transwoman" claim also doesn't have a proper source 2A02:C7C:405F:3800:9C0C:C070:FB9D:52A3 ( talk) 05:17, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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I was surprised to find out there was this many surpression orders around the case and they are still active. This includes canabalism which I have never seen mentioned any where, the only reason I know was a firend who was at the trial told about this. If theres anyway this information can be found and included it should.-- 60.242.71.160 ( talk) 11:03, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I really can't see how that map if Fair Use. BBC material is most certainly copyrighted. Remove? Shermozle 16:26, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
... but I wrote an article on Kuro5hin a while ago. If you want you can use whatever material you want. Article is at [1]. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Quote: "On May 21, 1999, a day after the discovery of the first eight bodies, three men - John Justin Bunting, Mark Ray Haydon and Robert Joe Wagner - were arrested and charged with murder in Adelaide Magistrates Court. On June 2, James Spyridon Vlassakis was also charged with murder."
How did the police come to arrest these people? Were they suspected and interviewed (if so, why were they suspects?), or did they confess voluntarily? More explanation needs to be given about this area of the case, so if anyone knows (I don't) please add it to the article! plattopus talk 09:17, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
So ... what actually needs doing, here?-- fuddlemark 15:44, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Suggest a format for cleanup ( Lisa 06:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC))
Really sorry to ask this so late in the piece, (working on this article makes me want to vomit or something!) but does it truly make sense to have "Snowtown murders" as the title to this article. Perhaps this title could redirect to "Bodies in Barrels murders" with other necessary redirects.
Being a resident of Snowtown at the time of this discovery it was remarked that the press was a bit unfair on us considering none of the murders occurred in Snowtown. But then it seems it came to be known by this name... So I tried not to let this affect my NPOV :) and the decision on naming the article.
But then I noticed that none of the links down the bottom mention "Snowtown murders" in their title. Perhaps "Bodies in Barrels" is actually the lasting name by which we know this event?
Either way I am unsure that the first sub section should be dedicated to Snowtown. Information about Snowtown is most relevant when we are trying to convey the impact the discovery of barrels had, but not useful for most other details of this case.
Thoughts? -- before I go ahead -- Lisa 01:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Did the suppression orders apply everywhere, or only in South Australia? I thought maybe editors from interstate would have access to information we dont't. -- Scott Davis Talk 01:20, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
There was no suppression order interstate. I remember when I was still living in Adelaide and was in Sydney when Snowtown was in committal. The media were all over it in Sydney, reporting live from Adelaide. There are also books on Snowtown and the trial that are sold here (in Melbourne) and I have also seen them in Queensland, with a sticker on the front saying "Not to be sold in SA". (I thought the supression orders were removed a few weeks ago). Frances76 11:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone have a reference for the recent addition that David Johnson was cooked and partially eaten? I don't have either book, but none of the online references support it that I can see. -- Scott Davis Talk 07:21, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
The assertion that these were Australia's "worst" serial killer is not an absolute truth. It has similarly been asserted that Ivan Milat is Australia's worst serial killer, in relation to the backpacker murders (although that case is far more controversial, as there are doubts that he did it alone, and hence doubts as to whether he is actually a serial killer). Regardless, I wonder if this statement could be researched, and perhaps cleaned up.
I have recently been made aware that wolf creek (movie) may have been at least partially based on this set of murders - with the closing credits stating explicitly that it was based on a set of murders committed in 1999. The movie itself has similarities to the Snowtown murders with regards to the torture and such, and has more similarities to this set of murders than to the backpacker murders. This came to prominence in 1999, and hence it could be what they were referring to? Similarly, when people refer to the backpacker murders they often say "1992 backpacker murders" when in reality they were 1988-1992. I think it is the same kind of thing, but would like to see it researched better. I had an edit war with cyberjunkie, because he didn't look at my references when I was writing about that. Thankfully that seems to be resolved now.
Just another thing. I have a vague recollection of a report on A Current Affair about a group of people who were ripping off Centrelink by collecting money for dead relatives, and that these people ended up committing murders. Was this the Snowtown murders? Or was that something else entirely? I didn't see it mentioned here, so presume it was either something else, or else nobody has thought to write from that angle. I did see that there was a line that said "for no other reason than to collect their pension cheques" which suggests that it was the same story. If it is, then I would suggest that a lot more could be added to this with regards to their motive for committing the murders. Zordrac 19:48, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Wolf Creek was marketed as being "based on true events". Although the producers have not disclosed which incidents inspired the film, some media sources have speculated that it may have been based on the backpacker murders of 1989-92, the Peter Falconio disappearance of 2001, and/or the 1992-99 Snowtown murders. The similarities of the film with the Falconio case led the defence team of the man charged (later convicted) with his murder, Bradley John Murdoch, to obtain a court order preventing Wolf Creek's release in the Northern Territory during the trial. The film's director and writer has stated that Wolf Creek is not based on any single event.
It seems that the various victims may have been killed for little more than their pension money. Police profilers later concluded that the murders were essentially motiveless and were inspired by hatred towards certain groups in society, such as homosexuals, paedophiles and the obese, rather than any specific motive. This isn't really explained in the article, and it also isn't cited. Were the victims homosexuals, paedophiles, or obese? - Elizabennet 04:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I can only speak for the last victim, David Johnson, but the info I have been given is that he was 'removed' in order that the youngest perpetrator, Vlassakis, could have clear access to a young lady that he convinced himself was enamoured with him. My family and I had met David in the context of his relationship with the young lady, I know the young lady very well. I personally brought the Detectives and the young lady into contact so they could get her story. I am not aware of whether her story made it into the Court records nor whether she was ever a witness. I can confirm that we (my family and I) knew all about the computer offered to David and we advised him through her that it was rubbish and wasn't worth going all the way to Snowtown for. He didn't take our advice. The young lady did. She is alive and well. There are witnesses to the conversations that took place but nothing from us was ever communicated to the Police except for my phone calls to the Detectives To my knowledge nothing was written down nor sworn as evidence so our involvement probably cannot show in the main article.
Ilox (
talk) 07:51, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Further information from the Court transcript:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/sa/SASC/2003/251.html verifying in part the relationship and her (and thus our) knowledge of the computer; (Note that her name was changed for protection.)
"252 Ms Linda Kovarskis was Johnson's girlfriend. She last spoke to him on 9 May 1999 and was told by Johnson that he was obtaining a computer from Bunting that day. Johnson told Kovarskis that the contact had been provided by Vlassakis. On Wednesday 12 May 1999, Kovarskis made enquiries as to the whereabouts of Johnson. At about 10.30 am on 13 May 1999, Kovarskis and her mother attended at Johnson's home. Their knock on the front door was answered by Vlassakis. He told Kovarskis that Johnson had made a thirteen year old girl pregnant and was seeing someone else. Kovarskis observed that Johnson's clothing and belongings were still in his room.
253 Kovarskis told Vlassakis to tell Johnson to call her. She said that if she did not get a call she would contact the police and report Johnson as missing. That same morning, a telephone intercept recorded a conversation between Vlassakis and Bunting in which they discussed the intention of Kovarskis to go to the police if Johnson did not call her that night. It is the Crown case that a plan was put in place to satisfy Kovarskis. Bunting purchased a telephone pack. He gave Johnson's birth certificate to Vlassakis to enable Vlassakis to register a SIM card in Johnson's former name, David Cheeseman. The number was given to Kovarskis. Bunting arranged for Elliott to impersonate Johnson's girlfriend. Bunting told Elliott that Johnson had left the State because he made a 13 year old girl pregnant. Elliott answered when Kovarskis telephoned and pretended to call out to Johnson. She told Kovarskis that Johnson must have been on the toilet and that she had to go. Elliott hung up. The SIM card was later found in Bunting's mobile telephone in a vehicle at Bundarra Court.
"
Iloxton ( talk) 06:25, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Examiners attempting to identify the remains found them mummified rather than dissolved, the latter being the apparent intention of storing the bodies in barrels of acid. The killers had chosen hydrochloric acid which mummified the remains. Sulfuric acid would have been more effective in dissolving the bodies. The last sentence seems to be totally unneccessary and designed to sound dramatic. Unless this specific issue came up in the investigation or trial directly (i.e. someone raised this fact) then it should be removed. - 203.39.12.130 ( talk) 07:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)Patrick Bateman
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Is there some reason this article uses the aliases Elizabeth Harvey and Jodie Elliott rather than their actual names? Mapjc ( talk) 17:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
What was Haydon's sentence? Please add it to the article with a source. Mr G ( talk) 01:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
I made some grammatical, punctuation, etc. corrections today. I did leave the pedophile spelling as I believe that it is an Australian spelling and the murders took place in Australia. Mylittlezach ( talk) 00:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
My intention is to do minor editing to this article. I have began by focusing on fixing some punctuation errors and adding transition words to connect ideas together. I have also restructured and re-ordered some of the already existing sections in order to make the article's information more coherent. Finally, I have began to add to the article's media section on books and movies based on the murders, but will continue to add to it as I do more research.
The work I have done so far is in my sandbox, the link is provided below. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions!
/info/en/?search=User:Margonzalezd/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margonzalezd ( talk • contribs) 16:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I made a little change to the article in order to improve the writing style and some of the grammar mistakes. here is the link to my sandbox of the article: : /info/en/?search=User:Katrina99 I corrected the grammar mistakes and change the writing style of some of the sentences. And, I also checked the spelling. Please give me some advises and suggestion. And I will make my work better. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katrina99 ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
This edit—purportedly on "unsourced" grounds—effectively removed much important (and unquestionably factual) content. I have therefore restored the content which can surely be sourced to the trial record (which I have also added, in a Sources section). It is not good enough for any editor to mindlessly expunge this sort of significant content without (a) carefully checking whether any references are available, and (b) seeking other opinions and consensus on the Talk page. Bjenks ( talk) 03:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
This article doesn't mention any of the victims or how the events link together. An extensive victims list should be added.For some insane reason, this edit was revoked: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Snowtown_murders&diff=601731135&oldid=601730963 Bomberswarm2 ( talk) 11:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
The Snowtown footer contains four links, all of which redirect back to the Snowtown page. That is quite hilariously useless. Either the four pages for the murderers need to be restored or delete the footer.
Slowclap ( talk) 21:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
The organisation didn't exist at the time and the word hadn't been coined. A bit of research would show what such payments were called at the time. That shouldn't be difficult, because re-organisations of government departments didn't happen so often then.
Jswd ( talk) 01:52, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
The article pictures the wrong bank building. The barrels were found in the vault of the building at https://goo.gl/maps/pi3oDkCjGPt
Format ( talk) 00:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
It's my understanding that deadnames are only included in Wikipedia articles if the person was widely known when they were going by that name. These are murder victims, killed in part for being transgender, and as such I don't think it's very relevant or thoughtful that their deadnames are included. Taylowrk ( talk) 09:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Is there a proper source linked that confirms Michelle's and Vanessa's assumed name and identity? Reference number 6 under Michelle's victim article that states she was a "transsexual" links to the court case document, which doesnt mention anything about them being trans, Vanessa's "pre-op transwoman" claim also doesn't have a proper source 2A02:C7C:405F:3800:9C0C:C070:FB9D:52A3 ( talk) 05:17, 5 September 2023 (UTC)