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It's all to do with the Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio, which can be found in art, architecture and throughout nature. Another secret society, freemasonry deals with the golden ratio and Fibonacci sequence. So why the number 322? Well if we take the 13th number of the Fibonacci sequence (13 is also a number used by freemasons and the Illuminati) you get 233, which is the inverse of 322, add them together and you get 666!
If you look up the number 666 it is the answer to a number of mathematical equations and I think it's no coincidence that it is the number of the beast in the bible, for what reason I don't know, my theory is the bible was used as a tool to control the masses and stop them from critically thinking about things like the golden ratio, the Fibonacci sequence and the astonishing attributes of the number 666, which include:
Now here's where it gets truly astonishing, with astronomical probabilities:
The sum of the first 144 digits of Pi = 666 Now this in itself is amazing, but to top it off 144 just so happens to also be the number that precedes 233 in the Fibonacci Sequence!
and lastly
The Golden ratio φ = -2 sin (666°) = -2 cos(6*6*6°)
This is also so a good reference - http://www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/Golden/P.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.129.158.43 ( talk) 03:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The problem is you obviously looked for 666 when you constantly reverse or change the number for no logical reason. We get it, the number looks related to 666 but you kind of need a logical way of getting there besides outright changing the number. BTW the idea that the bible is against free thinking is a tad ignorant. Yes it says things that are simply not true but it never outright says not to think for yourself. It would be like saying all science books are against free thinking because they outright tell you how things work, instead of telling you to figure it out yourself. That's simply how a book that wants to convey information works. 64.119.57.59 ( talk) 23:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I am a practicing occultist, maybe I can help clear this up for you: 322 is the number of friendship and fraternity in numerology. 666 is the number of the Sun in planetary square magick, and The Bible is the only place where 666 is linked to Satan, and many scholars believe the 666 was a way to refer to Nero Caesar. Inverting then "adding together" AKA multiplying the numbers to 666 is a stretch and has far less meaning or reasoning behind it. It makes a LOT more sense that a fraternity would use the number 322 (which signifies all the things a fraternity would be about), even if they ARE satanic. They are NOT satanic however, though Christian doctrine and dogma implies anything not of the bible is of the devil and so to a Christian, every pagan or atheist is a satanist... — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicodemusGhost ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Aww sweet a schizo thread
Here, might as well throw my hat into the ring. I think 322 has to do with Knights templar. Theheezy ( talk) 16:03, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
In their book Secret Societies: Freemasons and Illuminati, Opus Dei and Black Hand, which was published in 2013 as a companion book to a ZDF documentary series on secret societies, the authors Gisela Graichen and Alexander Hesse deal not only with the Freemasons but also with the U.S. student fraternity Skull & Bones. They address conjectures according to which Skull & Bones founder William Huntington Russell is said to have borrowed numerous ritual and symbolic elements of the fraternity he founded in 1832 from student or Masonic organizations in Germany, since he had spent several months in Germany immediately before founding Skull & Bones. The authors hypothesize here that Russell may also have been in Königsberg during his stay in Germany and may then have borrowed his Skull & Bones symbolism from the emblem of the Masonic lodge there, Zum Todtenkopf und Phoenix.
This hypothesis is processed by the Austrian author David G. L. Weiss in his 2013 novel "Macht", a conspiracy thriller in which Skull & Bones plays a major role. In their research into Skull & Bones' possible (fictional) connections to Prussia, the novel's main character also speculates about a possible connection of Skull & Bones to the Lodge Zum Todtenkopf and Phoenix.
An even more far-reaching conspiracy theory is drafted by the author and ufologist Andreas von Rétyi in his 2004 book Power and Mystery of the Illuminati: According to this, Skull & Bones is the continuation of the Illuminati Order. The number 322 refers in the time calculation of Skull & Bones to the year 1832. In this year Skull & Bones was created, and at the same time the fusion of the lodges to the death head and to the Phoenix took place to the united Johannisloge to the death head and Phoenix. This merger, coinciding with the founding of Skull & Bones, symbolized the demise of the old Illuminati Order in Germany (Todtenkopf) and its resurrection in the USA in the form of Skull & Bones (Phoenix).
https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Zum_Todtenkopf_und_Phoenix#Trivia 2A02:8109:25C0:6C8:C8:F17F:6360:C6AB ( talk) 15:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Consensus not to move. The discussion did not favor either the suitability of the proposed title or the position that this is no longer the primary topic. ( non-admin closure) {{replyto| SilverLocust}} ( talk) 06:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Skull and Bones → Skull and Bones Society – There is no doubt this page is popular, but it's not the obvious primary topic. In the past year, pageviews demonstrate significant sustained interest for the video game also called "Skull and Bones" that is steady at about 1/5 of the views of this page, which is well within the WP:NOPRIMARY margin. Sometimes views for the game exceed the secret society. If we factor in people clicking on the link from here to the game, it becomes even closer. When the game was popular, pageviews for THIS page spiked by about 1000 views/day from all the people who were confused, so we can assume a significant fraction of visitors here are coming to the wrong place. Another telling statistic is that this page started getting about several hundred more views a day ever since the video game's article was made. Interest is likely to remain high whether or not it is cancelled. There is also a very pertinent WP:NATURAL disambiguated title, as shown. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:27, 23 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly ( talk) 03:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I have moved the following from the Popular Culture section because of a lack of sources. This content can be returned once adequate sources are found:
Rublamb ( talk) 04:17, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I am proposing merger of the Russell Trust Association with this article, Skull and Bones. The former has no notability except for its relationship with Skull and Bones. Furthermore, the RTA article does not meet the standard of notability based on its current sources. Rublamb ( talk) 23:44, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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It's all to do with the Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio, which can be found in art, architecture and throughout nature. Another secret society, freemasonry deals with the golden ratio and Fibonacci sequence. So why the number 322? Well if we take the 13th number of the Fibonacci sequence (13 is also a number used by freemasons and the Illuminati) you get 233, which is the inverse of 322, add them together and you get 666!
If you look up the number 666 it is the answer to a number of mathematical equations and I think it's no coincidence that it is the number of the beast in the bible, for what reason I don't know, my theory is the bible was used as a tool to control the masses and stop them from critically thinking about things like the golden ratio, the Fibonacci sequence and the astonishing attributes of the number 666, which include:
Now here's where it gets truly astonishing, with astronomical probabilities:
The sum of the first 144 digits of Pi = 666 Now this in itself is amazing, but to top it off 144 just so happens to also be the number that precedes 233 in the Fibonacci Sequence!
and lastly
The Golden ratio φ = -2 sin (666°) = -2 cos(6*6*6°)
This is also so a good reference - http://www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/Golden/P.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.129.158.43 ( talk) 03:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The problem is you obviously looked for 666 when you constantly reverse or change the number for no logical reason. We get it, the number looks related to 666 but you kind of need a logical way of getting there besides outright changing the number. BTW the idea that the bible is against free thinking is a tad ignorant. Yes it says things that are simply not true but it never outright says not to think for yourself. It would be like saying all science books are against free thinking because they outright tell you how things work, instead of telling you to figure it out yourself. That's simply how a book that wants to convey information works. 64.119.57.59 ( talk) 23:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I am a practicing occultist, maybe I can help clear this up for you: 322 is the number of friendship and fraternity in numerology. 666 is the number of the Sun in planetary square magick, and The Bible is the only place where 666 is linked to Satan, and many scholars believe the 666 was a way to refer to Nero Caesar. Inverting then "adding together" AKA multiplying the numbers to 666 is a stretch and has far less meaning or reasoning behind it. It makes a LOT more sense that a fraternity would use the number 322 (which signifies all the things a fraternity would be about), even if they ARE satanic. They are NOT satanic however, though Christian doctrine and dogma implies anything not of the bible is of the devil and so to a Christian, every pagan or atheist is a satanist... — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicodemusGhost ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Aww sweet a schizo thread
Here, might as well throw my hat into the ring. I think 322 has to do with Knights templar. Theheezy ( talk) 16:03, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
In their book Secret Societies: Freemasons and Illuminati, Opus Dei and Black Hand, which was published in 2013 as a companion book to a ZDF documentary series on secret societies, the authors Gisela Graichen and Alexander Hesse deal not only with the Freemasons but also with the U.S. student fraternity Skull & Bones. They address conjectures according to which Skull & Bones founder William Huntington Russell is said to have borrowed numerous ritual and symbolic elements of the fraternity he founded in 1832 from student or Masonic organizations in Germany, since he had spent several months in Germany immediately before founding Skull & Bones. The authors hypothesize here that Russell may also have been in Königsberg during his stay in Germany and may then have borrowed his Skull & Bones symbolism from the emblem of the Masonic lodge there, Zum Todtenkopf und Phoenix.
This hypothesis is processed by the Austrian author David G. L. Weiss in his 2013 novel "Macht", a conspiracy thriller in which Skull & Bones plays a major role. In their research into Skull & Bones' possible (fictional) connections to Prussia, the novel's main character also speculates about a possible connection of Skull & Bones to the Lodge Zum Todtenkopf and Phoenix.
An even more far-reaching conspiracy theory is drafted by the author and ufologist Andreas von Rétyi in his 2004 book Power and Mystery of the Illuminati: According to this, Skull & Bones is the continuation of the Illuminati Order. The number 322 refers in the time calculation of Skull & Bones to the year 1832. In this year Skull & Bones was created, and at the same time the fusion of the lodges to the death head and to the Phoenix took place to the united Johannisloge to the death head and Phoenix. This merger, coinciding with the founding of Skull & Bones, symbolized the demise of the old Illuminati Order in Germany (Todtenkopf) and its resurrection in the USA in the form of Skull & Bones (Phoenix).
https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Zum_Todtenkopf_und_Phoenix#Trivia 2A02:8109:25C0:6C8:C8:F17F:6360:C6AB ( talk) 15:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Consensus not to move. The discussion did not favor either the suitability of the proposed title or the position that this is no longer the primary topic. ( non-admin closure) {{replyto| SilverLocust}} ( talk) 06:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Skull and Bones → Skull and Bones Society – There is no doubt this page is popular, but it's not the obvious primary topic. In the past year, pageviews demonstrate significant sustained interest for the video game also called "Skull and Bones" that is steady at about 1/5 of the views of this page, which is well within the WP:NOPRIMARY margin. Sometimes views for the game exceed the secret society. If we factor in people clicking on the link from here to the game, it becomes even closer. When the game was popular, pageviews for THIS page spiked by about 1000 views/day from all the people who were confused, so we can assume a significant fraction of visitors here are coming to the wrong place. Another telling statistic is that this page started getting about several hundred more views a day ever since the video game's article was made. Interest is likely to remain high whether or not it is cancelled. There is also a very pertinent WP:NATURAL disambiguated title, as shown. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:27, 23 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly ( talk) 03:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I have moved the following from the Popular Culture section because of a lack of sources. This content can be returned once adequate sources are found:
Rublamb ( talk) 04:17, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I am proposing merger of the Russell Trust Association with this article, Skull and Bones. The former has no notability except for its relationship with Skull and Bones. Furthermore, the RTA article does not meet the standard of notability based on its current sources. Rublamb ( talk) 23:44, 7 July 2023 (UTC)