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No mention here of Sierra Online Inc's Homeword word processor. Homeword ran on Apple DOS (apple ][+, //e, //c) - and there is also Homeword Plus which ran on ProDos on the Apple //e and //c
I believe there was a Homeword for the IBM PC and Atari PC's too.
Some refs:
Atari: https://archive.org/details/HomewordReferenceCard
ProDos Homeword Plus: https://archive.org/details/apple_2_homewordplus
IBM: https://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2014/08/homeword-sierra-onlines-easy-to-use.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.32.25 ( talk) 16:27, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
I removed all reference to the "story" that Sierra was sold to EA. The original press release that was cited was just a copy/paste of the first paragraph of a fake news story making fun of Tiger Woods ( http://www.bbspot.com/News/2009/12/tiger-woods-electronic-arts.html), which was posted a day earlier. I cannot find ANY other references to any information about EA buying Sierra. It's fake. -- 167.219.0.140 ( talk) 16:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Why no mention of SierraVenture? Or InterAction magazine? This article can be expanded so much more to include Sierra's history. -- œ ™ 12:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Dynamix was not a "Short-lived music division of Sierra". Dynamix was primarily the "sim" division (A-10 Tank Killer, Red Baron, Pro Pilot), but also developed pet-projects of Jeff Tunnell like "The Incredible Machine" (and its sequels), the 3D Ultra series, Starsiege, Tribes, Trophy Bass, Ski Racing, and countless other titles. http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/dynamix-inc/ Wkrick ( talk) 05:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Where is arcanum in the list? That surely is a sierra game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.81.80.104 ( talk) 10:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
? Deman8899 ( talk) 23:12, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
There reads (in
Sierra Entertainment#Other Games, subsection "Cendant Corporation"): In 1998, Sierra split up its organization into six sub-brands and corporate divisions:
However, there are only five listed. Though, strangely, fi.wiki has five; Dynamix has been added and Sierra Movies is missing from there.
85.217.43.208 (
talk) 00:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I believe some of the information about how Sierra was founded is incorrect...where does it say in Levy's Hackers that Ken was a programmer for IBM (according to Hackers, Ken was working as an independent consultant). Also, according to the forward to the guidebook in the Roberta Williams Anthology, Roberta first played text adventures on a teletype terminal, not an Apple II (even Hackers corroborates this, as Roberta was playing Colossal Cave before Ken bought the Apple II in Jan 1980). I wanted to throw this out there before changing it to ask if there's anything I've missed... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.76.177.124 ( talk) 21:40, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Kirk Shelton got jail time too, besides his fee.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/03/AR2005080302177.html Majinsnake ( talk) 04:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I have had this game for years and years. I love it and it is my favorite PC game. I have listened to their conversation hundreds and thousands of times and would love to get an update version where the talking players say something different. I have looked everywhere I can think of and can only find-- 96.25.66.215 ( talk) 23:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC) the one I already have. Could you put in a request to who ever makes this one? I am 67 yrs old and us baby boomers are fastly coming on and we do have the money to buy something that is old but loveable to entertain us now that we are too old to do ....... (fill in the blank). Thank you for your time and attention.
judyquarles@gmail.com-- 96.25.66.215 ( talk) 23:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC)Judy Quarles
http://www.nodontdie.com/al-lowe/ is the interview I am referring to. It makes the claim- which does accord with the evidence already in the article- that the Sierra takeover by CUC was a predatory hostile takeover, and that Ken and Roberta Williams were effectively forced out of the company. Given the follow on stories about the CUC executive being central to the Cendant scandal and lawsuits already in the article, this seems like a useful bit of information to have in it. Sappow ( talk) 19:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I think it's safe to rename this page as "Sierra"? As the Sierra Website implies that they're using the trademark Sierra instead of Sierra On-Line or Sierra Entertainment. Christhecoolboy ( talk) 11:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Just notifying that the history section has been 'split', or perhaps forked is more currently accurate, off to a new page,
History of Sierra Entertainment.
Any objections or comments on this? -
220
of
Borg 09:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
I've begun working to cleanup a lot of this. I started a Games Developed table with most of the primary series now included. I'm happy with 1980s section for the most part, but 1990s needs a lot more work. There's a lot of really minor detail that isn't all that important, and a great deal of unsourced material. -- ferret ( talk) 16:46, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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I just wanted to let the moderators of this page know that the information about Sierra Entertainment is incorrect. As evident in the article, the current Sierra Entertainment is nothing more than a publishing label for Activision's niche titles. The Sierra Entertainment that was dissolved in 2008 was a legal entity. There is one of two solutions in order to provide the correct representation of the company. 1) Create a separate article for Sierra Entertainment as the active publishing label and rename the former Sierra Entertainment article as Sierra Entertainment Inc., or 2) Have two infoboxes in the article. The top infobox displaying the current Sierra Entertainment, and the second infobox displaying the former legal entity of Sierra Entertainment. Iftekharahmed96 ( talk) 18:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
|fate=
field.|fate=
field.Iftekharahmed96 is completely correct by saying that we should keep those apart". Oh, he is saying the opposite. I am the one who said they should be kept apart. I just settled for the mention of the latter in the infobox as a way of compromise. — Codename Lisa ( talk) 10:45, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
@ 24.202.55.52: First of all, I'll need to point out that the original sentence was added by you in this edit, so it would be on you, not me, to explain its in-/exlcusion. Regardless, the company closed down in 2008, and that is where the company history stops, that it was closed was the company's fate. Our documentation reads "Reason/reasons the company became defunct, or the name of the entity that acquired or merged with it."—"Brand name revived" is not such a reason. If we opted to include that in that parameter, we would also have to state the brand's re-disbandment, and it would grow longer onwards, wherefore I see no reason for exclusion. The already short lead (which I admittedly cleaned up a little to avoid redundancies and bad wording) also outlines the case already. Lordtobi ( ✉) 12:11, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi.
According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Verb tense:
By default, write articles in the present tense, including for those covering products or works that have been discontinued. Articles discussing works of fiction are also written in the present tense (see WP:Writing better articles § Tense). Generally, do not use past tense except for deceased subjects, past events, and subjects that no longer meaningfully exist as such.
In that light, I think "was a company" is not correct.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 10:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I've just added ( in this diff) a few details about the fate of Sierra's original Oakhurst office. The source is effectively an opinion piece by an ex-employee, hardly a reliable source but marginally better than the nothing we had before. But it could use a better source.
That's not the reason I'm posting, though. Back in 1998 I was an employee of Cendant Corporation, the company Sierra had then-recently been acquired by, for a few months. (Literally... 7 months, to be precise.) Honestly I don't remember even being aware at the time that Sierra was a Cendant subsidiary, and I certainly possess neither allegiance to, nor inside knowledge of, either Sierra or Cendant — then or since — in any way that would influence my contributions. Still, in the interest of complete transparency I felt it best to make this declaration. In the same vein, I have placed a {{
connected contributor}}
notice at the top of this page. --
FeRDNYC (
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No mention here of Sierra Online Inc's Homeword word processor. Homeword ran on Apple DOS (apple ][+, //e, //c) - and there is also Homeword Plus which ran on ProDos on the Apple //e and //c
I believe there was a Homeword for the IBM PC and Atari PC's too.
Some refs:
Atari: https://archive.org/details/HomewordReferenceCard
ProDos Homeword Plus: https://archive.org/details/apple_2_homewordplus
IBM: https://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2014/08/homeword-sierra-onlines-easy-to-use.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.32.25 ( talk) 16:27, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
I removed all reference to the "story" that Sierra was sold to EA. The original press release that was cited was just a copy/paste of the first paragraph of a fake news story making fun of Tiger Woods ( http://www.bbspot.com/News/2009/12/tiger-woods-electronic-arts.html), which was posted a day earlier. I cannot find ANY other references to any information about EA buying Sierra. It's fake. -- 167.219.0.140 ( talk) 16:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Why no mention of SierraVenture? Or InterAction magazine? This article can be expanded so much more to include Sierra's history. -- œ ™ 12:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Dynamix was not a "Short-lived music division of Sierra". Dynamix was primarily the "sim" division (A-10 Tank Killer, Red Baron, Pro Pilot), but also developed pet-projects of Jeff Tunnell like "The Incredible Machine" (and its sequels), the 3D Ultra series, Starsiege, Tribes, Trophy Bass, Ski Racing, and countless other titles. http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/dynamix-inc/ Wkrick ( talk) 05:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Where is arcanum in the list? That surely is a sierra game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.81.80.104 ( talk) 10:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
? Deman8899 ( talk) 23:12, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
There reads (in
Sierra Entertainment#Other Games, subsection "Cendant Corporation"): In 1998, Sierra split up its organization into six sub-brands and corporate divisions:
However, there are only five listed. Though, strangely, fi.wiki has five; Dynamix has been added and Sierra Movies is missing from there.
85.217.43.208 (
talk) 00:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I believe some of the information about how Sierra was founded is incorrect...where does it say in Levy's Hackers that Ken was a programmer for IBM (according to Hackers, Ken was working as an independent consultant). Also, according to the forward to the guidebook in the Roberta Williams Anthology, Roberta first played text adventures on a teletype terminal, not an Apple II (even Hackers corroborates this, as Roberta was playing Colossal Cave before Ken bought the Apple II in Jan 1980). I wanted to throw this out there before changing it to ask if there's anything I've missed... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.76.177.124 ( talk) 21:40, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Kirk Shelton got jail time too, besides his fee.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/03/AR2005080302177.html Majinsnake ( talk) 04:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I have had this game for years and years. I love it and it is my favorite PC game. I have listened to their conversation hundreds and thousands of times and would love to get an update version where the talking players say something different. I have looked everywhere I can think of and can only find-- 96.25.66.215 ( talk) 23:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC) the one I already have. Could you put in a request to who ever makes this one? I am 67 yrs old and us baby boomers are fastly coming on and we do have the money to buy something that is old but loveable to entertain us now that we are too old to do ....... (fill in the blank). Thank you for your time and attention.
judyquarles@gmail.com-- 96.25.66.215 ( talk) 23:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC)Judy Quarles
http://www.nodontdie.com/al-lowe/ is the interview I am referring to. It makes the claim- which does accord with the evidence already in the article- that the Sierra takeover by CUC was a predatory hostile takeover, and that Ken and Roberta Williams were effectively forced out of the company. Given the follow on stories about the CUC executive being central to the Cendant scandal and lawsuits already in the article, this seems like a useful bit of information to have in it. Sappow ( talk) 19:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I think it's safe to rename this page as "Sierra"? As the Sierra Website implies that they're using the trademark Sierra instead of Sierra On-Line or Sierra Entertainment. Christhecoolboy ( talk) 11:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Just notifying that the history section has been 'split', or perhaps forked is more currently accurate, off to a new page,
History of Sierra Entertainment.
Any objections or comments on this? -
220
of
Borg 09:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
I've begun working to cleanup a lot of this. I started a Games Developed table with most of the primary series now included. I'm happy with 1980s section for the most part, but 1990s needs a lot more work. There's a lot of really minor detail that isn't all that important, and a great deal of unsourced material. -- ferret ( talk) 16:46, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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I just wanted to let the moderators of this page know that the information about Sierra Entertainment is incorrect. As evident in the article, the current Sierra Entertainment is nothing more than a publishing label for Activision's niche titles. The Sierra Entertainment that was dissolved in 2008 was a legal entity. There is one of two solutions in order to provide the correct representation of the company. 1) Create a separate article for Sierra Entertainment as the active publishing label and rename the former Sierra Entertainment article as Sierra Entertainment Inc., or 2) Have two infoboxes in the article. The top infobox displaying the current Sierra Entertainment, and the second infobox displaying the former legal entity of Sierra Entertainment. Iftekharahmed96 ( talk) 18:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
|fate=
field.|fate=
field.Iftekharahmed96 is completely correct by saying that we should keep those apart". Oh, he is saying the opposite. I am the one who said they should be kept apart. I just settled for the mention of the latter in the infobox as a way of compromise. — Codename Lisa ( talk) 10:45, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
@ 24.202.55.52: First of all, I'll need to point out that the original sentence was added by you in this edit, so it would be on you, not me, to explain its in-/exlcusion. Regardless, the company closed down in 2008, and that is where the company history stops, that it was closed was the company's fate. Our documentation reads "Reason/reasons the company became defunct, or the name of the entity that acquired or merged with it."—"Brand name revived" is not such a reason. If we opted to include that in that parameter, we would also have to state the brand's re-disbandment, and it would grow longer onwards, wherefore I see no reason for exclusion. The already short lead (which I admittedly cleaned up a little to avoid redundancies and bad wording) also outlines the case already. Lordtobi ( ✉) 12:11, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi.
According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Verb tense:
By default, write articles in the present tense, including for those covering products or works that have been discontinued. Articles discussing works of fiction are also written in the present tense (see WP:Writing better articles § Tense). Generally, do not use past tense except for deceased subjects, past events, and subjects that no longer meaningfully exist as such.
In that light, I think "was a company" is not correct.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 10:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I've just added ( in this diff) a few details about the fate of Sierra's original Oakhurst office. The source is effectively an opinion piece by an ex-employee, hardly a reliable source but marginally better than the nothing we had before. But it could use a better source.
That's not the reason I'm posting, though. Back in 1998 I was an employee of Cendant Corporation, the company Sierra had then-recently been acquired by, for a few months. (Literally... 7 months, to be precise.) Honestly I don't remember even being aware at the time that Sierra was a Cendant subsidiary, and I certainly possess neither allegiance to, nor inside knowledge of, either Sierra or Cendant — then or since — in any way that would influence my contributions. Still, in the interest of complete transparency I felt it best to make this declaration. In the same vein, I have placed a {{
connected contributor}}
notice at the top of this page. --
FeRDNYC (
talk) 10:25, 24 July 2021 (UTC)