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http://www.jrussellshealth.com/alcmen.html That's a website with information and cited sources. I think it's important to include that alcohol kills sperm, can affect your ability to have/maintain an erection, etc. or to at least present the arguments.
Please identify specifically what needs cleanup so that it can be done. Thank you. DUI Investigator 18:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
i see people mentioning about the GABA but it is not being displayed in the page so i'm thinking of using my psychology book as the main source of how alcohol consumption effects people's mood.
I merged the content from the page Mallenby Effect because it was a stub. It had one source that I didn't know how to catgorize. It is marked with a citation needed notice. See its old talk page Talk:Mallenby Effect —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kville105125 ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Under the section on Slowing, this is stated:
"GABA could also be responsible for the memory impairment that many people experience. It has been asserted that GABA signals interfere with the registration and consolidation stages of memory formation. As the GABA system is found in the hippocampus, (among other areas in the CNS), which is thought to play a large role in memory formation, this is thought to be possible."
And under Pharmacology, it says:
" Alcohol at high doses acts as an antagonist of the NMDA receptor, and since the NMDA receptor is involved in learning and memory, this action is thought to be responsible for the "memory blanks" that can occur at extremely high doses of alcohol."
I have a reference that says alcohol blocking the Ca+ channel in NMDA receptors is primarily responsible, and possibly other transmitter systems.
"Alcohol interferes with the activation of the NMDA receptor, thereby preventing the influx of calcium and the changes that follow (Swartzwelder et al. 1995). This is believed to be the primary mechanism underlying the effects of alcohol on LTP, though other transmitter systems are probably also involved (Schummers and Browning 2001)."
I'm suggesting it should be re-written, using a different source and put under one section. New Source Έρεβος 22:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
The last line of the second paragraph, "Likewise, people consuming non-alcoholic drinks often exhibit drunk-like behavior on a par with their alcohol-drinking companions even though their own drinks contained no alcohol whatsoever.[citation needed], " jumps tenses, and I suspect was written by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Someone please fix it to be grammatical or remove it (I haven't got enough prior edits to do this myself).
Kyledr ( talk) 01:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
todd is also the bomb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.22.130 ( talk) 05:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
There is no specific receptor for ethanol but rather a binding pocket where ethanol acts as an allosteric positive modulator. This should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NaK-Pump ( talk • contribs) 16:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
edit: I've gone ahead and changed it. Will find a citation if anyone thinks this necessary but it's pretty common knowledge. NaK-Pump ( talk) 20:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Some alcoholic prone person definitely wrote this:
at low concentrations it can actually stimulate certain areas of the brain
Camilo Sanchez ( talk) 08:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
This article has long been tagged for cleanup. I've done style and especially citation cleanup on the first 2/3 or so of the article (I stopped at the "Pathophysiology" section). The "Effects by Dosage" section is almost entirely unsourced. The "Pathophysiology" section has very problematic sourcing, in that all of the sources for each paragraph are simply dumped in a pile at the end, instead of used inline to match up specific facts with specific sources, so the whole section needs to be redone. The citations other than the ones I've cleaned up do not use {{ cite journal}}, and a large number of them put terminal punctuation after instead of before the citation, and space the citation away from the cited text, which isn't how we do it here. Also, abbreviated journal names should not be used in Wikipedia, as WP is for a general audience, not specialists, and 99.9% of our readers have no idea what the full journal names are. Finally, the style guide here calls for Using Title Case, Like This for article titles as well as journal names (even if the original publication used lower case for all but the first letter). — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 04:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Isn't there another mechanism by which alcohol causes dehydration in the body? It seems like I remember in chemistry class, the professor showed how the body used water in a certain ratio to process alcohol, but I can't remember; maybe I'm thinking of some other substance. Tisane talk/ stalk 01:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Why does both this article and the main Ethanol article seem to lack any info on effects beyond those involving the central nervous system? Isn't there a plethora of other effects, such as cardiovascular (i.e vasodilation) or digestive? Take the very well known myth that alcohol warms the body (a result of vasodilation), which has no mention on either this article or the main ethanol article. LiamSP ( talk) 17:57, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
After excessive drinking, unconsciousness can occur and extreme levels of consumption can lead to alcohol poisoning and death (a concentration in the blood stream of 0.40% will kill half of those affected[3][4])
One reference is a dead link, the other seems to be a page set up by some students, without any source for the data. It states: "The following is a generalized alcohol affect chart based on a 150 pound person, metabolizing 0.5 ounces of alcohol per hour, that has eaten. Please note that 50% of the persons who attain a blood alcohol level of 0.4 will die!" Given that the chart that follows lists BAC values, not amount of alcohol consumed, the relevance of the person's weight escapes me. Not really what I would consider a reliable source. I'd expect a RS to at least provide statistical evidence to back up their claim. Ssscienccce ( talk) 16:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
btw, the section on Alcohol abstinence and sleep disruptions, most of the Pathophysiology section, and the last paragraph of the lede seem to be about long-term effects? Ssscienccce ( talk) 17:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
looking at the LD50 page provides a LD50 of BAC as 1.11 (calculated)not 0.40 but for Rats and not humans. I think the 0.40 is much too low as listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.62.100.39 ( talk) 05:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Some short term effects of alcohol can be defined as the things that people do while intoxicated such as driving, violence, stumbling and falling, and alcohol poisoning. All of which can lead to serious injuries, prolonged health issues, lifestyle changes, and death. Most of which are caused by the irresponsible drinker. Prevention of irresponsible drinkers actions and consequences should be proposed in a manner where alcohol is a more controlled substance. “Impaired Driving: Get the Facts” cdc.gov, Time 02 Oct. 2012. Web 18 Mar. 2013< http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html> “Alcoholism Series: Alcohol and crime statistics” www.saratogian.com, Time 13 Mar. 2011. Web 18 Mar. 2013. < http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2011/03/13/news/doc4d7d929027273529757051.txt?viewmode=fullstory> “Alcohol and Public Health: Fact Sheets” cdc.gov, Time 01 Oct. 2012. Web 18 Mar. 2013. < http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm> “FactStats:Alcohol Use:Mortality” cdc.gov, Time 11 Jan. 2013. Web 18 Mar. 2013. < http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.175.128.223 ( talk) 17:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.115.019743 JFW | T@lk 21:44, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
In the Moderate alcohol consumption and sleep disruptions subsection of the Sleep section, the term, SWS, is used twice but is never defined. Is this term meant to refer to Slow-wave sleep? If so, that should be indicated/wikilinked in the text. If it is meant to refer to something else, that should be indicated in the text instead. As is, the text leaves a hole in the information available. Shortsword ( talk) 22:00, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
I came here (and to various other articles) looking for information about the effects of alcohol on reasoning ability (because I was looking at https://senseis.xmp.net/?AlcoholAndGo ), but found very little. Is there much known about this, that could perhaps be usefully added here, e.g. what level has a significant effect, how soon it happens, how long it lasts, relationship to age? Other factors affecting the playing of intellectual games would also be of interest. PJTraill ( talk) 21:54, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
If short-term is defined as effects observed within hours after a single instance of alcohol consumption, then some of the content of this article is not relevant, as it describes changes seen after weeks to months of alcohol consumption. Could be moved to either Alcohol and health or Long-term effects of alcohol consumption. David notMD ( talk) 13:27, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
There is an active RfC underway on the Whisky talk page as to whether the "whisky" article will include links to this "Short-term effects of alcohol consumption" wikipedia article, and similar articles Specifically: Should the whisky article provide direct links to articles about the effects of ethanol on those who consume whisky? Here is a proposed sentence with hyperlinks: Some effects of whisky consumption are due to its alcohol content. See: Alcohol intoxication, Short-term effects of alcohol consumption, Long-term effects of alcohol, and Alcohol and health. sbelknap ( talk) 21:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
The recent studies, conducted in three German universities, prove that even a single dose of alcohol can permanently damage part of your brain. 85.193.215.210 ( talk) 14:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
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http://www.jrussellshealth.com/alcmen.html That's a website with information and cited sources. I think it's important to include that alcohol kills sperm, can affect your ability to have/maintain an erection, etc. or to at least present the arguments.
Please identify specifically what needs cleanup so that it can be done. Thank you. DUI Investigator 18:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
i see people mentioning about the GABA but it is not being displayed in the page so i'm thinking of using my psychology book as the main source of how alcohol consumption effects people's mood.
I merged the content from the page Mallenby Effect because it was a stub. It had one source that I didn't know how to catgorize. It is marked with a citation needed notice. See its old talk page Talk:Mallenby Effect —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kville105125 ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Under the section on Slowing, this is stated:
"GABA could also be responsible for the memory impairment that many people experience. It has been asserted that GABA signals interfere with the registration and consolidation stages of memory formation. As the GABA system is found in the hippocampus, (among other areas in the CNS), which is thought to play a large role in memory formation, this is thought to be possible."
And under Pharmacology, it says:
" Alcohol at high doses acts as an antagonist of the NMDA receptor, and since the NMDA receptor is involved in learning and memory, this action is thought to be responsible for the "memory blanks" that can occur at extremely high doses of alcohol."
I have a reference that says alcohol blocking the Ca+ channel in NMDA receptors is primarily responsible, and possibly other transmitter systems.
"Alcohol interferes with the activation of the NMDA receptor, thereby preventing the influx of calcium and the changes that follow (Swartzwelder et al. 1995). This is believed to be the primary mechanism underlying the effects of alcohol on LTP, though other transmitter systems are probably also involved (Schummers and Browning 2001)."
I'm suggesting it should be re-written, using a different source and put under one section. New Source Έρεβος 22:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
The last line of the second paragraph, "Likewise, people consuming non-alcoholic drinks often exhibit drunk-like behavior on a par with their alcohol-drinking companions even though their own drinks contained no alcohol whatsoever.[citation needed], " jumps tenses, and I suspect was written by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Someone please fix it to be grammatical or remove it (I haven't got enough prior edits to do this myself).
Kyledr ( talk) 01:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
todd is also the bomb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.22.130 ( talk) 05:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
There is no specific receptor for ethanol but rather a binding pocket where ethanol acts as an allosteric positive modulator. This should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NaK-Pump ( talk • contribs) 16:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
edit: I've gone ahead and changed it. Will find a citation if anyone thinks this necessary but it's pretty common knowledge. NaK-Pump ( talk) 20:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Some alcoholic prone person definitely wrote this:
at low concentrations it can actually stimulate certain areas of the brain
Camilo Sanchez ( talk) 08:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
This article has long been tagged for cleanup. I've done style and especially citation cleanup on the first 2/3 or so of the article (I stopped at the "Pathophysiology" section). The "Effects by Dosage" section is almost entirely unsourced. The "Pathophysiology" section has very problematic sourcing, in that all of the sources for each paragraph are simply dumped in a pile at the end, instead of used inline to match up specific facts with specific sources, so the whole section needs to be redone. The citations other than the ones I've cleaned up do not use {{ cite journal}}, and a large number of them put terminal punctuation after instead of before the citation, and space the citation away from the cited text, which isn't how we do it here. Also, abbreviated journal names should not be used in Wikipedia, as WP is for a general audience, not specialists, and 99.9% of our readers have no idea what the full journal names are. Finally, the style guide here calls for Using Title Case, Like This for article titles as well as journal names (even if the original publication used lower case for all but the first letter). — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 04:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Isn't there another mechanism by which alcohol causes dehydration in the body? It seems like I remember in chemistry class, the professor showed how the body used water in a certain ratio to process alcohol, but I can't remember; maybe I'm thinking of some other substance. Tisane talk/ stalk 01:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Why does both this article and the main Ethanol article seem to lack any info on effects beyond those involving the central nervous system? Isn't there a plethora of other effects, such as cardiovascular (i.e vasodilation) or digestive? Take the very well known myth that alcohol warms the body (a result of vasodilation), which has no mention on either this article or the main ethanol article. LiamSP ( talk) 17:57, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
After excessive drinking, unconsciousness can occur and extreme levels of consumption can lead to alcohol poisoning and death (a concentration in the blood stream of 0.40% will kill half of those affected[3][4])
One reference is a dead link, the other seems to be a page set up by some students, without any source for the data. It states: "The following is a generalized alcohol affect chart based on a 150 pound person, metabolizing 0.5 ounces of alcohol per hour, that has eaten. Please note that 50% of the persons who attain a blood alcohol level of 0.4 will die!" Given that the chart that follows lists BAC values, not amount of alcohol consumed, the relevance of the person's weight escapes me. Not really what I would consider a reliable source. I'd expect a RS to at least provide statistical evidence to back up their claim. Ssscienccce ( talk) 16:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
btw, the section on Alcohol abstinence and sleep disruptions, most of the Pathophysiology section, and the last paragraph of the lede seem to be about long-term effects? Ssscienccce ( talk) 17:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
looking at the LD50 page provides a LD50 of BAC as 1.11 (calculated)not 0.40 but for Rats and not humans. I think the 0.40 is much too low as listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.62.100.39 ( talk) 05:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Some short term effects of alcohol can be defined as the things that people do while intoxicated such as driving, violence, stumbling and falling, and alcohol poisoning. All of which can lead to serious injuries, prolonged health issues, lifestyle changes, and death. Most of which are caused by the irresponsible drinker. Prevention of irresponsible drinkers actions and consequences should be proposed in a manner where alcohol is a more controlled substance. “Impaired Driving: Get the Facts” cdc.gov, Time 02 Oct. 2012. Web 18 Mar. 2013< http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html> “Alcoholism Series: Alcohol and crime statistics” www.saratogian.com, Time 13 Mar. 2011. Web 18 Mar. 2013. < http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2011/03/13/news/doc4d7d929027273529757051.txt?viewmode=fullstory> “Alcohol and Public Health: Fact Sheets” cdc.gov, Time 01 Oct. 2012. Web 18 Mar. 2013. < http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm> “FactStats:Alcohol Use:Mortality” cdc.gov, Time 11 Jan. 2013. Web 18 Mar. 2013. < http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.175.128.223 ( talk) 17:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.115.019743 JFW | T@lk 21:44, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
In the Moderate alcohol consumption and sleep disruptions subsection of the Sleep section, the term, SWS, is used twice but is never defined. Is this term meant to refer to Slow-wave sleep? If so, that should be indicated/wikilinked in the text. If it is meant to refer to something else, that should be indicated in the text instead. As is, the text leaves a hole in the information available. Shortsword ( talk) 22:00, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
I came here (and to various other articles) looking for information about the effects of alcohol on reasoning ability (because I was looking at https://senseis.xmp.net/?AlcoholAndGo ), but found very little. Is there much known about this, that could perhaps be usefully added here, e.g. what level has a significant effect, how soon it happens, how long it lasts, relationship to age? Other factors affecting the playing of intellectual games would also be of interest. PJTraill ( talk) 21:54, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
If short-term is defined as effects observed within hours after a single instance of alcohol consumption, then some of the content of this article is not relevant, as it describes changes seen after weeks to months of alcohol consumption. Could be moved to either Alcohol and health or Long-term effects of alcohol consumption. David notMD ( talk) 13:27, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
There is an active RfC underway on the Whisky talk page as to whether the "whisky" article will include links to this "Short-term effects of alcohol consumption" wikipedia article, and similar articles Specifically: Should the whisky article provide direct links to articles about the effects of ethanol on those who consume whisky? Here is a proposed sentence with hyperlinks: Some effects of whisky consumption are due to its alcohol content. See: Alcohol intoxication, Short-term effects of alcohol consumption, Long-term effects of alcohol, and Alcohol and health. sbelknap ( talk) 21:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
The recent studies, conducted in three German universities, prove that even a single dose of alcohol can permanently damage part of your brain. 85.193.215.210 ( talk) 14:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)