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The caption to image Image:Valeriano.jpg says:
When did Shapur capture Philip? What is the reference for the interpretation of this relief?-- Ahrarara 01:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The article Valerian (emperor) states that Valerian was stuffed with straw after being skined, yet this artical says dung. Which is it? -- Ceaser 11:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Along with other minor things, my edits of 28 March 2007, address/resolve the following copyvio issues:
-- Fullstop 09:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
To Fullstop and Parthianshot: You two should take your personal fight somewhere else, than take on this article! 86.137.146.147 21:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I have confirmed that the material removed by Fullstop and The Behnam was a copyvio. There is no use discussing this further. It must be removed. Don't anybody try to reinsert this material, or you will be blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who wrote this, but the following passage needs to be sourced and rewritten:
Until we have some evidence that Valerian's capture was indeed "treacherous," there's no justification for the word's usage. Further, the next paragraph talks about Shapur's defeat of Valerian, so the entire section reads very awkwardly. I also would like to see some sources supporting the idea that Shapur lost all of the territory he gained, as I'm fairly certain the empire expanded significantly under his rule. Spectheintro ( talk) 20:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)spectheintro
Actually, we do have some evidence Valerian was captured treacherously, it is claimed by Zosimus that Valerian was invited by Shapur I to negotiate, and was then seized. However, testis unus testis nullus, and it seems very unlikely an Emperor would have consented to a meeting in enemy territory with only a small retinue to protect him, to which one might add that Zosimus, though not claiming the Persians used chariots and assorted fairytales, is like many Roman historians ready to implicate the enemies of Rome in any crime to cover up the Roman's own failures. Koechly ( talk) 05:00, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Although this article is supposed to be about Shapur, he is only mentioned when the Persians are defeated, while Gordian III is made into the protagonist, a child under the tutelage of his general/father in law Timesitheus and dying suspiciously soon after Timesitheus dies in battle, after which Phillip the Arab takes over. 217.63.243.52 ( talk) 15:52, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
That wax figure of Shapur is downright lame. From the cheesy clothes, to the bad hair and the face caught in the headlights expression. It doesn't do him any justice. GET RID OF IT! The Angus McBride paintings are much more respectful and heroic. Rawoyster ( talk) 07:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Disclosure - this was brought to my attention on my talk page. I've reverted an edit based on [3] - as you can say, it states that "This is a short prose work, simple in style, probably written in Pars towards the end of the Sasanian period. It too was the work of priests, and a comparison of it with Firdausi's rendering shows how effectively Zoroastrian elements were obliterated in the Muslim redaction. The Kârnâmag contains some historical details; but its generally romantic character has been explained as due to contamination with legends of Cyrus the Great, still current then in Pars." Mary Boyce, 'Middle Persian Literature' (in Handbuch Der Orientalistik --I. Abt., IV. Band 2., p. 60.)". Dougweller ( talk) 19:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Zosimus calls him Sapor in A New History. Isn't this name worth mentioning, just as the article on Shapur II offers alternate names? Mang ( talk) 14:02, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering why the sources of encyclopedia Iranica are against each other? In two articles it says the mother of Shapur was Murrod:
Brosius, Maria (2000). "Women i. In Pre-Islamic Persia". Encyclopaedia Iranica, Vol. London et al.
Shahbazi, A. Shapur (2002). "Šāpur I". Encyclopaedia Iranica
While from one article it says it was Daneg:
Gignoux, Philippe (1994). "Dēnag". In Yarshater, Ehsan (ed.). Encyclopædia Iranica, Volume VII/3: Dehqān I–Deylam, John of. London and New York: Routledge & Kegan Paul. p. 282.
So what should we write in the inbox? Xani LapZerin ( talk) 23:33, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I suggest we should write in the that his mother was Murrod or Daneg. Thanks for responding. Xani LapZerin ( talk) 00:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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The caption to image Image:Valeriano.jpg says:
When did Shapur capture Philip? What is the reference for the interpretation of this relief?-- Ahrarara 01:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The article Valerian (emperor) states that Valerian was stuffed with straw after being skined, yet this artical says dung. Which is it? -- Ceaser 11:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Along with other minor things, my edits of 28 March 2007, address/resolve the following copyvio issues:
-- Fullstop 09:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
To Fullstop and Parthianshot: You two should take your personal fight somewhere else, than take on this article! 86.137.146.147 21:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I have confirmed that the material removed by Fullstop and The Behnam was a copyvio. There is no use discussing this further. It must be removed. Don't anybody try to reinsert this material, or you will be blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who wrote this, but the following passage needs to be sourced and rewritten:
Until we have some evidence that Valerian's capture was indeed "treacherous," there's no justification for the word's usage. Further, the next paragraph talks about Shapur's defeat of Valerian, so the entire section reads very awkwardly. I also would like to see some sources supporting the idea that Shapur lost all of the territory he gained, as I'm fairly certain the empire expanded significantly under his rule. Spectheintro ( talk) 20:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)spectheintro
Actually, we do have some evidence Valerian was captured treacherously, it is claimed by Zosimus that Valerian was invited by Shapur I to negotiate, and was then seized. However, testis unus testis nullus, and it seems very unlikely an Emperor would have consented to a meeting in enemy territory with only a small retinue to protect him, to which one might add that Zosimus, though not claiming the Persians used chariots and assorted fairytales, is like many Roman historians ready to implicate the enemies of Rome in any crime to cover up the Roman's own failures. Koechly ( talk) 05:00, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Although this article is supposed to be about Shapur, he is only mentioned when the Persians are defeated, while Gordian III is made into the protagonist, a child under the tutelage of his general/father in law Timesitheus and dying suspiciously soon after Timesitheus dies in battle, after which Phillip the Arab takes over. 217.63.243.52 ( talk) 15:52, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
That wax figure of Shapur is downright lame. From the cheesy clothes, to the bad hair and the face caught in the headlights expression. It doesn't do him any justice. GET RID OF IT! The Angus McBride paintings are much more respectful and heroic. Rawoyster ( talk) 07:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Disclosure - this was brought to my attention on my talk page. I've reverted an edit based on [3] - as you can say, it states that "This is a short prose work, simple in style, probably written in Pars towards the end of the Sasanian period. It too was the work of priests, and a comparison of it with Firdausi's rendering shows how effectively Zoroastrian elements were obliterated in the Muslim redaction. The Kârnâmag contains some historical details; but its generally romantic character has been explained as due to contamination with legends of Cyrus the Great, still current then in Pars." Mary Boyce, 'Middle Persian Literature' (in Handbuch Der Orientalistik --I. Abt., IV. Band 2., p. 60.)". Dougweller ( talk) 19:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Zosimus calls him Sapor in A New History. Isn't this name worth mentioning, just as the article on Shapur II offers alternate names? Mang ( talk) 14:02, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering why the sources of encyclopedia Iranica are against each other? In two articles it says the mother of Shapur was Murrod:
Brosius, Maria (2000). "Women i. In Pre-Islamic Persia". Encyclopaedia Iranica, Vol. London et al.
Shahbazi, A. Shapur (2002). "Šāpur I". Encyclopaedia Iranica
While from one article it says it was Daneg:
Gignoux, Philippe (1994). "Dēnag". In Yarshater, Ehsan (ed.). Encyclopædia Iranica, Volume VII/3: Dehqān I–Deylam, John of. London and New York: Routledge & Kegan Paul. p. 282.
So what should we write in the inbox? Xani LapZerin ( talk) 23:33, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I suggest we should write in the that his mother was Murrod or Daneg. Thanks for responding. Xani LapZerin ( talk) 00:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)