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Mrjahan (May 11th, 2006):
The rank of Eran Spahbod was abolished during the reforms of Khosrau I. Shahrbaraz was a general, but he did not have absolute command. In the western theatre, he shared command with Shahin. I remove the Eran Spahbod ref.
The coin was not Shahrbaraz. Arashiyama ( talk) 05:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Shahrbaraz and Farrokhan were not the same person according to the cited Pourshariati book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.254.91.78 ( talk) 20:21, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
I see that the article has been submitted for a GA review, and I think it will pass with flying colors! I won't do the review, though, because I did the peer review and I think the article would benefit from another editor's judgment before it is submitted for an eventual featured article review. But during the peer review I promised HistoryofIran that I would give another round of comments, so here they are! Some comments continue from where the peer review had stopped.
However, Heraclius may have altered the letter for his own purposes before showing it to Shahrbaraz.This sentence proposes an interpretation of primary sources and historical events. As such, it needs a reference.
...Farrukhzad secretly mutinied against Khosrau...I'm not sure a mutiny can be secret. I think of a mutiny as an open revolt more than a secret conspiracy. Maybe another word would be better?
I will stop here for now. I wish you quick success on the GA review! Madalibi ( talk) 16:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Once again, thank you very much for everything :). I will write about the confusion between him and Farrukhan later, as it takes some time to read about the confusion and write about it. -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 12:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Adam Cuerden ( talk · contribs) 20:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC) Unfortunately, this article is severely undercited. There are whole paragraphs without citations. Perhaps this is a trivial fix, but until it is, this can't pass good article. I'll give it a few days in case the sources are to hand.
The basic rule is that there should be a citation for every claim. If the same citation covers multiple claims, you can put it at the end of the series of claims cited - except that it's generally necessary to additionally put a citation at the end of each paragraph - which can, of course, be the same citation. This is because paragraphs tend to move around during editing.
There are two exceptions: In the lead of the article, it's not necessary to cite anything that appears later on with a citation; and in cases where the source is obvious (such as a plot summary) a citation isn't needed, and where a group of paragraph are obviously is part of the same source (a long quotation, say, or something specifically labelled as a summary of a specific source's claims) it's only necessary to cite it once. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I've added some sources, and i will add the rest of the sources tomorrow. -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 20:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Adam: I have added many more sources, is this good enough? if not then i can try to find some more. Madaliba: No problem, thanks for the suggestions :-). -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 16:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
The new footnotes added a few HarvErrors to the article, all surrounding the two volumes of The Roman Eastern Frontier and the Persian Wars by Dodgeon, Greatrex & Lieu, both published in 2002. I disambiguated the two entries as "Dodgeon, Greatrex & Lieu 2002a" and "2002b" and modified the three footnotes I could figure out (see my edit summaries). But I'm not sure whether notes 15 and 30 are to Part I or Part II, so I didn't touch them. HistoryofIran: could you make sure I didn't make mistakes in modifying notes 8, 10, and 24, and could you specify 2002a or 2002b in footnotes 15 and 30? Then the references will be perfect! If you want to detect HarvErrors on your own, you should install this incredibly convenient script. Once you have it installed (takes less than a minute), HarvErrors will just display automatically. All right, good luck with everything! Madalibi ( talk) 00:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Done :-). -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 14:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, Shahrbaraz is identical to "Farāyeen" (فرآیین) in Shahname. Ferdowsi's account of Farāyeen is same as the historical Shahrbaraz. Farāyeen first makes an alliance with Piruz Khosro and asks him to kill Ardashir Shirooy ( Ardashir III) and then captures Ctesiphon. Ferdowsi even refer to Farāyeen as "Goraz" (Boar). In Shahname, Farāyeen after 50 days of reign was killed by "Shahrāngorāz" (شهرانگراز) (the same way Shahrbaraz was killed by Farrukh Hormizd), so Farrukh Hormizd is identical to Shahrāngorāz. Boran then punishes Piruz Khosro, when she ascent to the throne after Farāyeen. -- Bkouhi ( talk) 02:34, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Shahrbaraz is mostly notable for his career as a general, not as a king. This should be reflected in the lead and the infobox, which mostly emphasize on his kingship. -- Z 13:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I think it is quite ok and neccessary to add military career to the infobox. He has been Governor of Sasanian Egypt, and Spahbed of Nemroz as well; these should be reflected in the infox, like almost any other article in Wikipedia. -- Z 19:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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Mrjahan (May 11th, 2006):
The rank of Eran Spahbod was abolished during the reforms of Khosrau I. Shahrbaraz was a general, but he did not have absolute command. In the western theatre, he shared command with Shahin. I remove the Eran Spahbod ref.
The coin was not Shahrbaraz. Arashiyama ( talk) 05:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Shahrbaraz and Farrokhan were not the same person according to the cited Pourshariati book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.254.91.78 ( talk) 20:21, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
I see that the article has been submitted for a GA review, and I think it will pass with flying colors! I won't do the review, though, because I did the peer review and I think the article would benefit from another editor's judgment before it is submitted for an eventual featured article review. But during the peer review I promised HistoryofIran that I would give another round of comments, so here they are! Some comments continue from where the peer review had stopped.
However, Heraclius may have altered the letter for his own purposes before showing it to Shahrbaraz.This sentence proposes an interpretation of primary sources and historical events. As such, it needs a reference.
...Farrukhzad secretly mutinied against Khosrau...I'm not sure a mutiny can be secret. I think of a mutiny as an open revolt more than a secret conspiracy. Maybe another word would be better?
I will stop here for now. I wish you quick success on the GA review! Madalibi ( talk) 16:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Once again, thank you very much for everything :). I will write about the confusion between him and Farrukhan later, as it takes some time to read about the confusion and write about it. -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 12:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Adam Cuerden ( talk · contribs) 20:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC) Unfortunately, this article is severely undercited. There are whole paragraphs without citations. Perhaps this is a trivial fix, but until it is, this can't pass good article. I'll give it a few days in case the sources are to hand.
The basic rule is that there should be a citation for every claim. If the same citation covers multiple claims, you can put it at the end of the series of claims cited - except that it's generally necessary to additionally put a citation at the end of each paragraph - which can, of course, be the same citation. This is because paragraphs tend to move around during editing.
There are two exceptions: In the lead of the article, it's not necessary to cite anything that appears later on with a citation; and in cases where the source is obvious (such as a plot summary) a citation isn't needed, and where a group of paragraph are obviously is part of the same source (a long quotation, say, or something specifically labelled as a summary of a specific source's claims) it's only necessary to cite it once. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I've added some sources, and i will add the rest of the sources tomorrow. -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 20:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Adam: I have added many more sources, is this good enough? if not then i can try to find some more. Madaliba: No problem, thanks for the suggestions :-). -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 16:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
The new footnotes added a few HarvErrors to the article, all surrounding the two volumes of The Roman Eastern Frontier and the Persian Wars by Dodgeon, Greatrex & Lieu, both published in 2002. I disambiguated the two entries as "Dodgeon, Greatrex & Lieu 2002a" and "2002b" and modified the three footnotes I could figure out (see my edit summaries). But I'm not sure whether notes 15 and 30 are to Part I or Part II, so I didn't touch them. HistoryofIran: could you make sure I didn't make mistakes in modifying notes 8, 10, and 24, and could you specify 2002a or 2002b in footnotes 15 and 30? Then the references will be perfect! If you want to detect HarvErrors on your own, you should install this incredibly convenient script. Once you have it installed (takes less than a minute), HarvErrors will just display automatically. All right, good luck with everything! Madalibi ( talk) 00:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Done :-). -- Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust ( talk) 14:34, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, Shahrbaraz is identical to "Farāyeen" (فرآیین) in Shahname. Ferdowsi's account of Farāyeen is same as the historical Shahrbaraz. Farāyeen first makes an alliance with Piruz Khosro and asks him to kill Ardashir Shirooy ( Ardashir III) and then captures Ctesiphon. Ferdowsi even refer to Farāyeen as "Goraz" (Boar). In Shahname, Farāyeen after 50 days of reign was killed by "Shahrāngorāz" (شهرانگراز) (the same way Shahrbaraz was killed by Farrukh Hormizd), so Farrukh Hormizd is identical to Shahrāngorāz. Boran then punishes Piruz Khosro, when she ascent to the throne after Farāyeen. -- Bkouhi ( talk) 02:34, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Shahrbaraz is mostly notable for his career as a general, not as a king. This should be reflected in the lead and the infobox, which mostly emphasize on his kingship. -- Z 13:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I think it is quite ok and neccessary to add military career to the infobox. He has been Governor of Sasanian Egypt, and Spahbed of Nemroz as well; these should be reflected in the infox, like almost any other article in Wikipedia. -- Z 19:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)