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@ LouisAragon: Dear Louis Aragon! Are artfolio.com and silkroaddance.com reliable sources in your opinion?! In which one of the sources of this article has been cited that Shahmaran is a Persian or Turkish legend?! How much important is that, what is the pronunciation of word Shahmaran in those languages that are not related to this legend?! Why you are such strict about that references, but reckless about other parts and closing your eyes on those parts of the article which make this sense for reader taht Shahmaran is only a Turkish, Persian or even Arabic folklore legend?! About the word /Shah/ you can refer to a Kurdish dictionary (Like the authentic Henbaneborine of Hejar-p461 for the word شا,and p-465 for the word شامار which the latter means dragon in Kurdish, and also you could see every other Kurdish dictionaries), and also you should know the word Shah/Sha has been derived from Old Persian xšāyaθiya which has borrowed from the Median language; this word has changed and became /Shah/ in current Persian and /Sha/ in Kurdish. I want to remove all parts of the article which has'nt any reliable sources.-- Paraw ( talk) 18:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
I noticed much of this article in its current state is not containing citations, and use the term "snake" however the description sounds like a serpent (and some sources do use the term serpent). Anyone want to discuss here? Possibly it's a transliteration issue for the word "Maran"? Jooojay ( talk) 22:40, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
The kurdish name of Shahmaran is Şahmaran and not Şamaran. https://ku.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şahmaran Avestaboy ( talk) 20:27, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm a Kurmanji Kurd from Urmia city, Iran. Contrary to what you show, I have heard nothing about the Shah maran among the Persians. But shah Maran's image is present in many Kurmanji Kurdish homes. And they believe it. Rojitan ( talk) 19:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
and The Ring of Shah Maran, A Story from the Mountains of Turkey.[better source needed] The 1944 fairy talebook called The Ring of Shah Maran, A Story from the Mountains of Kurdistan by Raphael Emmanuel tells —-
what is this garbage? Why is this written twice and one is a complete lie. Why does Wikipedia users allow misinformation? The book clearly states from Kurdistan. It’s cited. Yet, this page has been hijacked in order to deny Kurds their own mythology and stories to be told.
Shameful.
Iranians and Turks once again censoring Kurds and their history. No surprise. 70.29.12.111 ( talk) 05:00, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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@ LouisAragon: Dear Louis Aragon! Are artfolio.com and silkroaddance.com reliable sources in your opinion?! In which one of the sources of this article has been cited that Shahmaran is a Persian or Turkish legend?! How much important is that, what is the pronunciation of word Shahmaran in those languages that are not related to this legend?! Why you are such strict about that references, but reckless about other parts and closing your eyes on those parts of the article which make this sense for reader taht Shahmaran is only a Turkish, Persian or even Arabic folklore legend?! About the word /Shah/ you can refer to a Kurdish dictionary (Like the authentic Henbaneborine of Hejar-p461 for the word شا,and p-465 for the word شامار which the latter means dragon in Kurdish, and also you could see every other Kurdish dictionaries), and also you should know the word Shah/Sha has been derived from Old Persian xšāyaθiya which has borrowed from the Median language; this word has changed and became /Shah/ in current Persian and /Sha/ in Kurdish. I want to remove all parts of the article which has'nt any reliable sources.-- Paraw ( talk) 18:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
I noticed much of this article in its current state is not containing citations, and use the term "snake" however the description sounds like a serpent (and some sources do use the term serpent). Anyone want to discuss here? Possibly it's a transliteration issue for the word "Maran"? Jooojay ( talk) 22:40, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
The kurdish name of Shahmaran is Şahmaran and not Şamaran. https://ku.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şahmaran Avestaboy ( talk) 20:27, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm a Kurmanji Kurd from Urmia city, Iran. Contrary to what you show, I have heard nothing about the Shah maran among the Persians. But shah Maran's image is present in many Kurmanji Kurdish homes. And they believe it. Rojitan ( talk) 19:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
and The Ring of Shah Maran, A Story from the Mountains of Turkey.[better source needed] The 1944 fairy talebook called The Ring of Shah Maran, A Story from the Mountains of Kurdistan by Raphael Emmanuel tells —-
what is this garbage? Why is this written twice and one is a complete lie. Why does Wikipedia users allow misinformation? The book clearly states from Kurdistan. It’s cited. Yet, this page has been hijacked in order to deny Kurds their own mythology and stories to be told.
Shameful.
Iranians and Turks once again censoring Kurds and their history. No surprise. 70.29.12.111 ( talk) 05:00, 14 May 2023 (UTC)