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While I agree with these recent edits by Tati Tanya, I don't think this is the correct place to put these references within the article. At most, everything cited in the lead section (the first three paragraphs) should be also cited elsewhere in the article.
Additionally, I think the wholesale rewriting of the article lead needs to be discussed. There was recently a Good Article review, Talk:Seneca Village/GA1 where the rearrangement of the sentences was discussed in depth. The previous lead was set up into three paragraphs: (1) location (2) existence (3) vestiges. The new lead is only two paragraphs: (1) existence and (2) rediscovery, not enough weight is given to the village's existence, and too much emphasis is placed on recent events. epicgenius ( talk) 21:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Epicgenius for your feedback. I follow the standard editing policies with more attention going forward--using citations in both the lead and again in the subsections. As far as edits to the lead, I will make minor corrections rather than restructuring. Some of the information stated is not supported in the citations currently listed. I would also like to be sure an add a link to some more recent sources and the New_york Historical Society's Seneca Village teachers guide [1] which has information on primary resources which are very useful for further research. User: Tati Tanya
Greetings!
I wrote said historical fiction chapter book, "The Lost Village of Central Park." As I am updating the front and back matter in hopes of re-publishing this book soon, I came to Wikipedia again, and was saddened to see the book's removal. Guess now I have to figure out how to ask for it to be reinstated! Sincerely,
Hope Lourie Killcoyne amazon.com/author/hopelouriekillcoyne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hope Lourie Killcoyne ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Moved from GA/1 by Mujinga ( talk) 14:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I believe the Australian newspaper's 1920 piece is pretty clearly referring to Seneca, New York, given that her father is described as a "missionary among the Seneca Indians in Western New York". This bit should be removed.-- Pharos ( talk) 14:36, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
We've designated this article as the Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Monthly collaboration for February, in synch with the Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAfrofuturist edit-a-thon.-- Pharos ( talk) 15:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
It would be great to have a navigable map for this, similar to the one on the Land of the Blacks (Manhattan) article.-- Pharos ( talk) 15:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Although the community began to coalesce in 1825, it would be great to get a citation for when we have the first appearance of "Seneca Village" as a geographical term.-- Pharos ( talk) 15:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Landscape2022: Please be careful about removing mention of the second school. There are indeed two schools described in reliable sources, though sometimes one gets accidentally omitted.-- Pharos ( talk) 14:31, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I am new to editing Wikipedia so just getting the hang of editing, including how to clarify reasons for editing. I have not seen any references to a second school actually, except for a Sunday School that was set up by women who were part of St. Micheal's Church, prior to them establishing All Angel's Church in the community. Is it possible to share those references? Landscape2022 ( talk) 16:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Landscape2022
Thanks, let me revisit this as I don't think I meant to remove the statement all together. Landscape2022 ( talk) 16:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Landscape2022
On a related question, Leslie M. Alexander gives the teacher at Colored School No. 3 as Catherine Thompson, while city directories put the head of the school as Caroline W. Simpson, that she had a salary of $200, and that there were 75 students. The location is 85th Street between 7th and 8th.-- Pharos ( talk) 02:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Frances Harper's novel Trial and Triumph mentions a fictional African American settlement in the 19th Ward that seems perhaps inspired by Seneca Village.-- Pharos ( talk) 21:13, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Goat Hill appears to be identical to Summit Rock, but it seems the Nanny Goat Hill of George W. Plunkitt was a somewhat smaller inhabited hill to the north by 84th Street?-- Pharos ( talk) 04:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
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Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
November 6, 2019. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that
Seneca Village, a community composed mainly of free black people, was destroyed in the 1850s to make way for New York City's
Central Park? | |||||||||||||
Current status: Good article |
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While I agree with these recent edits by Tati Tanya, I don't think this is the correct place to put these references within the article. At most, everything cited in the lead section (the first three paragraphs) should be also cited elsewhere in the article.
Additionally, I think the wholesale rewriting of the article lead needs to be discussed. There was recently a Good Article review, Talk:Seneca Village/GA1 where the rearrangement of the sentences was discussed in depth. The previous lead was set up into three paragraphs: (1) location (2) existence (3) vestiges. The new lead is only two paragraphs: (1) existence and (2) rediscovery, not enough weight is given to the village's existence, and too much emphasis is placed on recent events. epicgenius ( talk) 21:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Epicgenius for your feedback. I follow the standard editing policies with more attention going forward--using citations in both the lead and again in the subsections. As far as edits to the lead, I will make minor corrections rather than restructuring. Some of the information stated is not supported in the citations currently listed. I would also like to be sure an add a link to some more recent sources and the New_york Historical Society's Seneca Village teachers guide [1] which has information on primary resources which are very useful for further research. User: Tati Tanya
Greetings!
I wrote said historical fiction chapter book, "The Lost Village of Central Park." As I am updating the front and back matter in hopes of re-publishing this book soon, I came to Wikipedia again, and was saddened to see the book's removal. Guess now I have to figure out how to ask for it to be reinstated! Sincerely,
Hope Lourie Killcoyne amazon.com/author/hopelouriekillcoyne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hope Lourie Killcoyne ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Moved from GA/1 by Mujinga ( talk) 14:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I believe the Australian newspaper's 1920 piece is pretty clearly referring to Seneca, New York, given that her father is described as a "missionary among the Seneca Indians in Western New York". This bit should be removed.-- Pharos ( talk) 14:36, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
We've designated this article as the Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Monthly collaboration for February, in synch with the Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAfrofuturist edit-a-thon.-- Pharos ( talk) 15:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
It would be great to have a navigable map for this, similar to the one on the Land of the Blacks (Manhattan) article.-- Pharos ( talk) 15:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Although the community began to coalesce in 1825, it would be great to get a citation for when we have the first appearance of "Seneca Village" as a geographical term.-- Pharos ( talk) 15:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Landscape2022: Please be careful about removing mention of the second school. There are indeed two schools described in reliable sources, though sometimes one gets accidentally omitted.-- Pharos ( talk) 14:31, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I am new to editing Wikipedia so just getting the hang of editing, including how to clarify reasons for editing. I have not seen any references to a second school actually, except for a Sunday School that was set up by women who were part of St. Micheal's Church, prior to them establishing All Angel's Church in the community. Is it possible to share those references? Landscape2022 ( talk) 16:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Landscape2022
Thanks, let me revisit this as I don't think I meant to remove the statement all together. Landscape2022 ( talk) 16:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Landscape2022
On a related question, Leslie M. Alexander gives the teacher at Colored School No. 3 as Catherine Thompson, while city directories put the head of the school as Caroline W. Simpson, that she had a salary of $200, and that there were 75 students. The location is 85th Street between 7th and 8th.-- Pharos ( talk) 02:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Frances Harper's novel Trial and Triumph mentions a fictional African American settlement in the 19th Ward that seems perhaps inspired by Seneca Village.-- Pharos ( talk) 21:13, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Goat Hill appears to be identical to Summit Rock, but it seems the Nanny Goat Hill of George W. Plunkitt was a somewhat smaller inhabited hill to the north by 84th Street?-- Pharos ( talk) 04:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)