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The article is really confusing (for a non-expert) with regards to possible years of his life (and death). At the very least, can we add estimated century or centuries of his birth and death? Both in lead, in the form of (c.1900 BC - 1800 BC) and categories? I will add Category:2nd-millennium BC deaths and Category:2nd-millennium BC births for now, as this is the best I can do. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
188.141.79.83 posted this comment on 11 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
more about his life;eg.childhood etc. .......................
Any thoughts?
Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC) Unfortunately, all we know of this pharaoh is written in this article. Beyond his existence and name, we know nothing of his activities on the throne and even less on his early life. We have to keep in mind that this pharaoh died some 3800 years ago during troubled times, so it is not so surprising that we know so little. Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
212.149.183.222 posted this comment on 12 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Horrible jargon
Any thoughts?
Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC) Could you maybe indicate which "jargon" we should try to clarify ? Thanks ! Otherwise, we might have to ask an editor who does work on Ancient Egypt to comment on the difficult terms Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
The Egyptian pharaohs usually didn't include any information about their childhood or upbringing except the names of their parents since it wasn't relevant to their rule. Since this king ruled 3-4 years, there is almost no information for his childhood here except possibly the identity of his father. -- Leoboudv ( talk) 07:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Somebody working at the German wiki had written to Jo Wegner and received the following answer: r: "The tomb is very likely Sobekhotep I (Khaankre) based on associated ceramics and other lines of evidence such as close similarity with tomb of Ameny-Qemau. We do not have yet final inscriptional confirmation." best wishes -- Udimu ( talk) 23:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Newyorkadam posted this comment on 17 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Are there any images of his tomb that can be used on WIkipedia? :)
Any thoughts?
Unfortunately, I don't know of any copyright-free image that can be used on wikipedia. We can only hope that one of the excavators would upload one to wikicommons. That seems rather unlikely. Iry-Hor ( talk) 09:19, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
So it has been "positively identified", but you don't know if this is the first or 20th ruler of the dynasty ? That sounds pathetic. Tallewang ( talk) 01:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
108.13.227.25 posted this comment on 17 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Followed the "In the news"-link on the home page and would have expected to read something about those news here...
Any thoughts?
I guess you did not scroll down to the "Tomb" section where the news is discussed in details. Iry-Hor ( talk) 17:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Twigs_Vorron posted this comment on 16 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Reference to other civilization occurence;Egyptian Second Intermediate Period parallels some other activity; where?
Any thoughts?
Great point. There is not many synchronisms that are known. One that is generally held to be approximatively correct is Neferhotep I = Zimrin Lin = Hammurabi Iry-Hor ( talk) 18:35, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Drawing of a seal reading "The son of Ra, Sobekhotep Amenemhat, beloved of Sobek-Ra, Lord of Shyteru" Can't find anything about this place called Shyteru. Can it possibly be a contraction of šỉ, "lake" and ỉtrw, "river"? Sobek could certainly be described as "lord of the waters". – Alensha talk 22:41, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I just edited the father section to clarify the hypothesis that he was son of Amenemhat IV. The point is that this hypothesis isn't a presumption based on lack of information but rather based on the filiative nomen "Amenemhat". While it may refer to the pharaoh Amenemhat IV, it can refer to anyone else with that name. 94.66.59.214 ( talk) 20:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
![]() | A news item involving Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 17 January 2014. | ![]() |
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The article is really confusing (for a non-expert) with regards to possible years of his life (and death). At the very least, can we add estimated century or centuries of his birth and death? Both in lead, in the form of (c.1900 BC - 1800 BC) and categories? I will add Category:2nd-millennium BC deaths and Category:2nd-millennium BC births for now, as this is the best I can do. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
188.141.79.83 posted this comment on 11 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
more about his life;eg.childhood etc. .......................
Any thoughts?
Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC) Unfortunately, all we know of this pharaoh is written in this article. Beyond his existence and name, we know nothing of his activities on the throne and even less on his early life. We have to keep in mind that this pharaoh died some 3800 years ago during troubled times, so it is not so surprising that we know so little. Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
212.149.183.222 posted this comment on 12 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Horrible jargon
Any thoughts?
Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC) Could you maybe indicate which "jargon" we should try to clarify ? Thanks ! Otherwise, we might have to ask an editor who does work on Ancient Egypt to comment on the difficult terms Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
The Egyptian pharaohs usually didn't include any information about their childhood or upbringing except the names of their parents since it wasn't relevant to their rule. Since this king ruled 3-4 years, there is almost no information for his childhood here except possibly the identity of his father. -- Leoboudv ( talk) 07:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Somebody working at the German wiki had written to Jo Wegner and received the following answer: r: "The tomb is very likely Sobekhotep I (Khaankre) based on associated ceramics and other lines of evidence such as close similarity with tomb of Ameny-Qemau. We do not have yet final inscriptional confirmation." best wishes -- Udimu ( talk) 23:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Newyorkadam posted this comment on 17 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Are there any images of his tomb that can be used on WIkipedia? :)
Any thoughts?
Unfortunately, I don't know of any copyright-free image that can be used on wikipedia. We can only hope that one of the excavators would upload one to wikicommons. That seems rather unlikely. Iry-Hor ( talk) 09:19, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
So it has been "positively identified", but you don't know if this is the first or 20th ruler of the dynasty ? That sounds pathetic. Tallewang ( talk) 01:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
108.13.227.25 posted this comment on 17 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Followed the "In the news"-link on the home page and would have expected to read something about those news here...
Any thoughts?
I guess you did not scroll down to the "Tomb" section where the news is discussed in details. Iry-Hor ( talk) 17:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Twigs_Vorron posted this comment on 16 January 2014 ( view all feedback).
Reference to other civilization occurence;Egyptian Second Intermediate Period parallels some other activity; where?
Any thoughts?
Great point. There is not many synchronisms that are known. One that is generally held to be approximatively correct is Neferhotep I = Zimrin Lin = Hammurabi Iry-Hor ( talk) 18:35, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Drawing of a seal reading "The son of Ra, Sobekhotep Amenemhat, beloved of Sobek-Ra, Lord of Shyteru" Can't find anything about this place called Shyteru. Can it possibly be a contraction of šỉ, "lake" and ỉtrw, "river"? Sobek could certainly be described as "lord of the waters". – Alensha talk 22:41, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I just edited the father section to clarify the hypothesis that he was son of Amenemhat IV. The point is that this hypothesis isn't a presumption based on lack of information but rather based on the filiative nomen "Amenemhat". While it may refer to the pharaoh Amenemhat IV, it can refer to anyone else with that name. 94.66.59.214 ( talk) 20:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)